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Risu0042

Hello all, Currently I am in the process of building a new computer (see specs below) and was thinking about putting a dedicated physx card in this machine. I have seen information that selecting an under powered card can limit the capabilities of the main card, but i don't want to get an over powered one and spend more than I need to. I will be installing a GTX 980 ti for the main card and i was looking a GTX 750 ti for the dedicated physx card, though i'm basically covering my eyes and throwing a dart on this selection as i have nothing to base it off of. 

 

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I don't think dedicated PhysX cards work anymore

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Just now, revsilverspine said:

I don't think dedicated PhysX cards work anymore

Yes they do.

 

Also what resolution are you playing at @Risu0042?

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1 minute ago, revsilverspine said:

I don't think dedicated PhysX cards work anymore

And even if it did, I think there wasn't ever any significant benefit.

 

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2 minutes ago, Bangflop said:

Yes they do.

 

Also what resolution are you playing at @Risu0042?

I would be gaming at 3440x1440

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Just now, Risu0042 said:

I would be gaming at 3440x1440

There's no point in spending money on a PhysX card. No newer games have come out that actually utilize it, I think Borderlands 2 was the last game to use it. Even then, the GPU itself is more than capable of processing the PhysX stuff and it doesn't really put any more significant load on the GPU.

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The easy solution: Don't. 

 

The 980Ti is more than capable of running PhysX on its own. Having a dedicated card won't improve performance by anything noticeable or worthwhile. Unless you have a card just lying around, I wouldn't bother with a dedicated PhysX card. 

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2 minutes ago, juretrn said:

And even if it did, I think there wasn't ever any significant benefit.

It depends on your setup.  I have a buddy that has a R9-390X but he still wanted to have physx so he bought a GTX 950 and set that up so he could still use physx.  And if you have a lower end build, or if you're playing at 4K, it can give you up to 20 FPS, and at 4K that's fairly substantial.

 

Just now, Risu0042 said:

I would be gaming at 3440x1440

With the 980 Ti, I wouldn't worry about it unless you have an older Nvidia card just laying around.

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hmm... well, it sounds like the dedicated physx is something i might pass up on then. it's been a little bit since i have looked into computer building since my last build and the physx thing was something new i never heard of and thought it would be neat to put in this build. but it sounds like it won't be worth it.

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9 minutes ago, Bangflop said:

It depends on your setup.  I have a buddy that has a R9-390X but he still wanted to have physx so he bought a GTX 950 and set that up so he could still use physx.  And if you have a lower end build, or if you're playing at 4K, it can give you up to 20 FPS, and at 4K that's fairly substantial.

 

With the 980 Ti, I wouldn't worry about it unless you have an older Nvidia card just laying around.

He must be using like a decade old driver for Nvidia then, since all current generation ones kill AMD drivers on sight lol

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13 minutes ago, byalexandr said:

There's no point in spending money on a PhysX card. No newer games have come out that actually utilize it, I think Borderlands 2 was the last game to use it. Even then, the GPU itself is more than capable of processing the PhysX stuff and it doesn't really put any more significant load on the GPU.

The CPU does all PhysX processing.  The reason why it performed like shit on AMD cards back in the day was thanks to bloated AMD drivers.

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A dedicated PhysX card it pointless now a days when the GPUs are so beastly. The single 980Ti could handle the PhysX perfectly.

 

On the other hand if you had an AMD GPU i'd recommend getting a PhysX card, but with an Nvidia GPU it's pointless.

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7 minutes ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

The CPU does all PhysX processing.  The reason why it performed like shit on AMD cards back in the day was thanks to bloated AMD drivers.

On AMD cards the CPU does the PhysX processing. On Nvidia cards the GPU handles it. AMD drivers are much, much better now and are still improving too. He doesn't have any AMD product in his system anyway so I don't know why you bothered to bring it up.

 

Either way a PhysX card is pointless. The seldom few games that use it don't use it heavily and the GPU is more than powerful enough to handle a little bit of extra load.

 

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You don't need dedicated PhysX card unless you want to be like this guy...

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1) There's like 10 games total that actually use PhysX

2) There's like 3 games total where it makes a noticable improvement to the game

3) Modern cards can perfectly handle it

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42 minutes ago, Bangflop said:

Yes they do.

 

Also what resolution are you playing at @Risu0042?

 

37 minutes ago, Bangflop said:

It depends on your setup.  I have a buddy that has a R9-390X but he still wanted to have physx so he bought a GTX 950 and set that up so he could still use physx.  And if you have a lower end build, or if you're playing at 4K, it can give you up to 20 FPS, and at 4K that's fairly substantial.

 

With the 980 Ti, I wouldn't worry about it unless you have an older Nvidia card just laying around.

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1 hour ago, Risu0042 said:

Hello all, Currently I am in the process of building a new computer (see specs below) and was thinking about putting a dedicated physx card in this machine. I have seen information that selecting an under powered card can limit the capabilities of the main card, but i don't want to get an over powered one and spend more than I need to. I will be installing a GTX 980 ti for the main card and i was looking a GTX 750 ti for the dedicated physx card, though i'm basically covering my eyes and throwing a dart on this selection as i have nothing to base it off of. 

 

Processor: i7 6700k

mobo: MSI z170a M7

RAM: Corsair dominator platinum 64gb

disk: 1tb samsung 950pro M.2 (512mb x2 in RAID 0)

video card: corsair/MSI GTX 980 ti

power supply: corsair RM1000i

I've a 980 with a 750 ti as physx card and I cant really see the difference ( yeah, tried Arkham Knight and Borderlands 2 ) imho is not worth the extra heat and power draw.

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There is no need. A 980ti can handle anything physx related on its own.

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2 hours ago, byalexandr said:

On AMD cards the CPU does the PhysX processing. On Nvidia cards the GPU handles it. AMD drivers are much, much better now and are still improving too. He doesn't have any AMD product in his system anyway so I don't know why you bothered to bring it up.

 

Either way a PhysX card is pointless. The seldom few games that use it don't use it heavily and the GPU is more than powerful enough to handle a little bit of extra load.

 

EDIT: LOL I didn't even read who you were xD

 

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who i am.... wut

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1 hour ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

who i am.... wut

Nothing, nevermind. I got confused as to who I was quoting originally.... :)

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