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Here is an interesting bit. People are noticing in the latest Windows 10 Insider Preview (build 14251) new system files, with the names of lxcore.sys and lxss.sys.
It is believed that those are Linux files. While Microsoft is giving 0 information yet, the speculation machine is coming up with 2 theories:
 

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1- Project Astoria on Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile is coming. While exiting, why would Windows 10 non-Mobile need Android app support? Maybe, Windows 10 on small form factor tablets would benefit from this, but based on job description of new job posting, Windows 10 Mobile for x86-64 Intel architecture is what being looked at, or in the works, so why have these files on Windows 10 non Mobile?

2- They'll get removed for Windows 10 Home/Pro, and be part of Windows 10 Server edition to run Unix/Linux programs, which is an area which will really benefits Windows Server editions.

 

Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-10/

So what do you think it is? Or do you think it has no relationship with anything, and are just random new files.


 

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@Speedbird you might have something to say about this.

 

On January 30, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Dan Castellaneta said:

Sounds about right. IIRC Microsoft Azure has a Linux variant/runs on Linux.

Azure uses Hyper-V for its virtual machines, but also has linux options to choose from such as Ubuntu Server, OpenSUSE, etc. I would guess that those are also running from within Hyper-V

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Microsoft made a UNIX subsystem for 7 Enterprise before but they deprecated and removed it in 8 and 8.1 respectively.

This would be a neat feature for some, but I'd rather prefer they do it the other way - a Windows subsystem in a Linux distro.

 

 

 

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If I know Microsoft (and I do), they'll claim to have invented Linux, and support will be shitty.

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Just now, GoodBytes said:

Humm no. You don't know Microsoft.

Meh, suit yourself.  A lot of crap they recently integrated into Windows 10 and Windows server, they act like they invented it.  And more often than not, they implement things poorly.  For example, ReFS.

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6 minutes ago, Speedbird said:

Microsoft made a UNIX subsystem for 7 Enterprise before but they deprecated and removed it in 8 and 8.1 respectively.

This would be a neat feature for some, but I'd rather prefer they do it the other way - a Windows subsystem in a Linux distro.

The UNIX subsystem for Windows is even older than 7. It was first released in Windows Server 2003 R2 (and Windows Vista for consumers). Before that it was being developed by a third party company all the way back in the 90's (later got bought by Microsoft, and then with the release of Windows 8 they killed it off). It was pretty shit though so people who wanted access to UNIX utilities just used Cygwin instead. Maybe Microsoft will make a decent version this time.

 

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Just now, AnnoyedShelf said:

Meh, suit yourself.  A lot of crap they recently integrated into Windows 10 and Windows server, they act like they invented it.  And more often than not, they implement things poorly.  For example, ReFS.

Well, they did make ReFS. It would actually be better for us if Microsoft just copied one of the superior file systems already out there, but they didn't.

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3 hours ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

If I know Microsoft (and I do), they'll claim to have invented Linux, and support will be shitty.

I believe you are thinking of Apple there bud.

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3 hours ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

If I know Microsoft (and I do), they'll claim to have invented Linux, and support will be shitty.

 

10 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

I believe you are thinking of Apple there bud.

I agree with SansVarnic on this one, it's apple that takes an idea then claims it as their own.

 

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If Microsoft did bring Android app support, I'd download the first N.O.V.A. game (the only good one) and get the audio files fixed.

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4 hours ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

Meh, suit yourself.  A lot of crap they recently integrated into Windows 10 and Windows server, they act like they invented it.  And more often than not, they implement things poorly.  For example, ReFS.

Are they really acting like they invented it, or are you just taking it that way?

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Ouuuu, ok here is what I think. I think they will bring a full linux support like Sigwin for developers. More specifically on the web developers side who's tools are very Unix based. We will have to wait and see. 

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oh gosh the thought of windows server running both linux and windows programs...

 

not sure what to think of that.

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I hope they are using Linux, it'd be pretty cool. :)

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If this is a Linux addition to Windows server it would be a good thing since Linux has shown to be better at large server support than windows server. Though I could be wrong since my experience with servers is minimal at best.

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@AnnoyedShelf your sig's broken.

OT: this is really interesting. I really hope that this brings android app support to desktop. My school does alot of work on mobile and being able to work on desktop would help a lot.

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4 hours ago, Albatross said:

I hope they are using Linux, it'd be pretty cool. :)

We all know that everybody and their mother uses Linux for servers (except Linus because Windows Server 2012 R 2 for the win).

But I imagine that they use some Linux things.

 

10 hours ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

If I know Microsoft (and I do), they'll claim to have invented Linux, and support will be shitty.

OH MY GOD! Mac OS X is not Linux! IT's not even close! IT's based on BSD! @GoodBytesWhy does everybody get this wrong? It's pisses me off. Linux is damn good! BSD is BSD.

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3 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

OH MY GOD! Mac OS X is not Linux! IT's not even close! IT's based on BSD! @GoodBytesWhy does everybody get this wrong? It's pisses me off. Linux is damn good! BSD is BSD.

BSD is based off of Unix though.  Linux is also Unix. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Yummychickenblue said:

BSD is based off of Unix though.  Linux is also Unix. 

But both are very different.

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9 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

If this is a Linux addition to Windows server it would be a good thing since Linux has shown to be better at large server support than windows server. Though I could be wrong since my experience with servers is minimal at best.

It is dependent on what you want to do with it. For most roles Linux is better however there are reasons for Windows server in business and consumer settings as a server.

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17 hours ago, AnnoyedShelf said:

If I know Microsoft (and I do), they'll claim to have invented Linux, and support will be shitty.

You're thinking of Apple, buddy.

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5 hours ago, Yummychickenblue said:

BSD is based off of Unix though.  Linux is also Unix. 

Linux is not Unix.

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