Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650

[Dabombinable]

I can maybe afford to buy a better cpu cooler after buying the q9650, on that g31-vs2 mobo you think its a good idea to overclock? Keeping in mind its there is a old generic psu.

With motherboards like that you only overclock dual cores. Quad cores can only manage a minimal overclock at best with motherboards like that+weak/generic PSU.

[bakwan]

With motherboards like that you only overclock dual cores. Quad cores can only manage a minimal overclock at best with motherboards like that+weak/generic PSU.

alright makes sens

[themaniac]

btw... dont get high hopes for that computer.. I'm siting on the fourth mobo  atm...  lga775 motherboards are so bad.. that probably is gonna work for a year or two .. and then its gonna die... and yes.. first one was asrock, second asrock, the third msi.. and now I'm on msi again.. so... its genuine trash

i have a system with a foxcon/hp board thats been running strong for 7-8 years maybe even longer, i dont know when it was built all i know is that it has an e2200 and a foxcon/hp board

[Dabombinable]

i have a system with a foxcon/hp board thats been running strong for 7-8 years maybe even longer, i dont know when it was built all i know is that it has an e2200 and a foxcon/hp board

That's one of the better LGA775 manufacturers.

[bakwan]

i have a system with a foxcon/hp board thats been running strong for 7-8 years maybe even longer, i dont know when it was built all i know is that it has an e2200 and a foxcon/hp board

LOLOL everyone is after him now for his statement.

[themaniac]

That's one of the better LGA775 manufacturers.

really? then i should be ok upgrading the cpu to a c2q9400 and overclocking it a bit

 

LOLOL everyone is after him now for his statement.

whatever lga775 is old but strong

[Dabombinable]

LOLOL everyone is after him now for his statement.

It was false though, and everyone else has motherboards not made by the worst manufacturers of LGA775 motherboards.

 

 

really? then i should be ok upgrading the cpu to a c2q9400 and overclocking it a bit

 

whatever lga775 is old but strong

It depends on whether or not its on the compatibility list, how good the motherboard is (it can be of a high quality but still be limited as to how much you can overclock) and how good the PSU is.

[themaniac]

It was false though, and everyone else has motherboards not made by the worst manufacturers of LGA775 motherboards.

 

 

It depends on whether or not its on the compatibility list, how good the motherboard is (it can be of a high quality but still be limited as to how much you can overclock) and how good the PSU is.

well i'm not sure exactly what model it is, and i already plan on replacing the psu since i plan on putting in a dedicated gpu in it, well i plan on doing a decent overhaul on it aka getting more ram better cpu better gpu, better psu, better cooler, the motherboard only has 2 slots so i'm guessing its a lower end model

[ApolloX75]

i have a system with a foxcon/hp board thats been running strong for 7-8 years maybe even longer, i dont know when it was built all i know is that it has an e2200 and a foxcon/hp board

Foxconn has been around forever. Look at any motherboard made and almost all the connectors and various other components will be Foxconn-manufactured. Their boards are usually downright bulletproof.

 

It was false though, and everyone else has motherboards not made by the worst manufacturers of LGA775 motherboards.

 

I've had the chance to put a lot of 775 boards through the wringer over the years, it's still one of the most versatile and downright durable platforms around. I've even got an ECS P45 board that has survived very high overclocks on E8400s, and they're extremely spotty when it comes to quality.

[Dabombinable]

Foxconn has been around forever. Look at any motherboard made and almost all the connectors and various other components will be Foxconn-manufactured. Their boards are usually downright bulletproof.

 

 

I've had the chance to put a lot of 775 boards through the wringer over the years, it's still one of the most versatile and downright durable platforms around. I've even got an ECS P45 board that has survived very high overclocks on E8400s, and they're extremely spotty when it comes to quality.

I've got an E6500K that survived a week of 2.2V @ the frequency wall of 4.4GHz......and my P5Q Deluxe is still going just fine. Although I think I killed my Xeon however.

[themaniac]

Foxconn has been around forever. Look at any motherboard made and almost all the connectors and various other components will be Foxconn-manufactured. Their boards are usually downright bulletproof.

 

 

I've had the chance to put a lot of 775 boards through the wringer over the years, it's still one of the most versatile and downright durable platforms around. I've even got an ECS P45 board that has survived very high overclocks on E8400s, and they're extremely spotty when it comes to quality.

never new foxcon were good, i always thought they were one of the worse cheap guys

[NumLock21]

really? then i should be ok upgrading the cpu to a c2q9400 and overclocking it a bit

 

whatever lga775 is old but strong

Might want something with more cache, Q9400 has its L2 cache cut by half vs the Q9650 which has the full 12MB. C2Q ending with 50 has the full cache size.

 

never new foxcon were good, i always thought they were one of the worse cheap guys

They're average, not the best nor the worst.

[themaniac]

Might want something with more cache, Q9400 has its L2 cache cut by half vs the Q9650 which has the full 12MB. C2Q ending with 50 has the full cache size.

 

They're average, not the best nor the worst.

thats the only c2q that is on craigslist in/near Minneapolis so i'm sort of stuck with it but its still a good upgrade compared to the e2200 thats currently in the system

[NumLock21]

thats the only c2q that is on craigslist in/near Minneapolis so i'm sort of stuck with it but its still a good upgrade compared to the e2200 thats currently in the system

Plenty of used C2Q on Amazon

[Dabombinable]

Plenty of used C2Q on Amazon

And Ebay.

[tbake0155]

The Q9650 is definitely a lot better of a cpu than the Q6600, but it is also a lot more expensive.  A few years ago I was still messing around with LGA 775 boards.  Both of those cpus can be overclocked substantially.  I don't remember how high I got the Q6600, I want to say 3.4 Ghz.  That cpu was extremely hot and I was not happy with 3.4Ghz so I moved on.  The Q9650 I had running at 4.1 GHz for over a year on a hyper 212, but I had a nice Gigabyte board that had ich10 chipset and was a beast for overclocking.  It was a great cpu.  Coolest part was I bought it used on ebay for 100, ran it for a year, then sold it for 95 on ebay! 

 

I wouldn't pay over $20 for a Q6600 only because I have bought more than one for that price, it's probably a steal but the market is the market.  The higher clocked 45 nm LGA 775 cpus like the Q9650 are probably still fetching a good amount.

 

I also overclocked a few of the dual cores while I was messing around.  Some of those cpus are so cheap it's crazy, and they are still way beyond capable.

[iHardware Shelden]

The Q9650 is definitely a lot better of a cpu than the Q6600, but it is also a lot more expensive.  A few years ago I was still messing around with LGA 775 boards.  Both of those cpus can be overclocked substantially.  I don't remember how high I got the Q6600, I want to say 3.4 Ghz.  That cpu was extremely hot and I was not happy with 3.4Ghz so I moved on.  The Q9650 I had running at 4.1 GHz for over a year on a hyper 212, but I had a nice Gigabyte board that had ich10 chipset and was a beast for overclocking.  It was a great cpu.  Coolest part was I bought it used on ebay for 100, ran it for a year, then sold it for 95 on ebay! 

 

I wouldn't pay over $20 for a Q6600 only because I have bought more than one for that price, it's probably a steal but the market is the market.  The higher clocked 45 nm LGA 775 cpus like the Q9650 are probably still fetching a good amount.

 

I also overclocked a few of the dual cores while I was messing around.  Some of those cpus are so cheap it's crazy, and they are still way beyond capable.

Yea it is amazing, have you messed around with the Pentium Dual-Core E2160? That thing overlclocks like a bat out of hell and being at 1.8Ghz stock a 3+Ghz overclock is extremely noticeable 

[tbake0155]

Yea it is amazing, have you messed around with the Pentium Dual-Core E2160? That thing overlclocks like a bat out of hell and being at 1.8Ghz stock a 3+Ghz overclock is extremely noticeable 

 

I hadn't even heard of it until I just looked it up to be honest!  I overclocked a few single core pentiums and one of the original dual core pentiums, I think pentium d?  But otherwise just e6x00 and the two quad cores.

[iHardware Shelden]

I hadn't even heard of it until I just looked it up to be honest! I overclocked a few single core pentiums and one of the original dual core pentiums, I think pentium d? But otherwise just e6x00 and the two quad cores.

Yea the 2160 is almost same performance wise as the original Pentium Ds (netbust) at stock but when overclocked can be compared to or even better in some cases the Core 2 Duos around 2.66Ghz

[NumLock21]

did some oc and ran cb. It's at 3.8GHz

[bakwan]

And Ebay.

Ye best bet is ebay, well atleast in canada i could not find any cheap ones besides ebay

[Dabombinable]

Ye best bet is ebay, well atleast in canada i could not find any cheap ones besides ebay

Even in Australia I can find cheap ones (or their Xeon equivalent-still got 2 motherboards with the LGA771-775 mod+4 spare stickers).

[bakwan]

The Q9650 is definitely a lot better of a cpu than the Q6600, but it is also a lot more expensive.  A few years ago I was still messing around with LGA 775 boards.  Both of those cpus can be overclocked substantially.  I don't remember how high I got the Q6600, I want to say 3.4 Ghz.  That cpu was extremely hot and I was not happy with 3.4Ghz so I moved on.  The Q9650 I had running at 4.1 GHz for over a year on a hyper 212, but I had a nice Gigabyte board that had ich10 chipset and was a beast for overclocking.  It was a great cpu.  Coolest part was I bought it used on ebay for 100, ran it for a year, then sold it for 95 on ebay! 

 

I wouldn't pay over $20 for a Q6600 only because I have bought more than one for that price, it's probably a steal but the market is the market.  The higher clocked 45 nm LGA 775 cpus like the Q9650 are probably still fetching a good amount.

 

I also overclocked a few of the dual cores while I was messing around.  Some of those cpus are so cheap it's crazy, and they are still way beyond capable.

Luckily for me i can get the q9650 it for around  50-70$ in Canada

[Dabombinable]

Luckily for me i can get the q9650 it for around  50-70$ in Canada

Which is about the cost of an LGA771 Xeon which needs a physical mod to the motherboard for LGA775. So its better value.

[agent_x007]

I've got an E6500K that survived a week of 2.2V @ the frequency wall of 4.4GHz......and my P5Q Deluxe is still going just fine. Although I think I killed my Xeon however.

4,4GHz with Vcore = 2,2V ?

Wow... U got one shitty CPU

I did 4,37GHz (that's 30MHz less), with 1,52V : LINK (and it is bench stable : LINK).

And Yes, I know... E5400 isn't exacly a 6500k, but if U OC them - what's the difference again

Also Q9650 is NOT worth 45$ (or 20$ extra), when U can have a Q6600/Q6700 for 25$.

Q6600 G0 can do 3GHz with 1333MHz FSB (by "BSEL mod").

Not sure about the older B3 stepping tho (I didn't play with it).

As for IPC/frequency difference : Q6xxx = Q9x0x at same Frequency/FSB.

Q9x50 are faster - True.

But that 50% extra cache won't make unplayable game, playable.

Showing is belivng :

Q6700 @ 3,69GHz with GTX 780 Ti vs. "few games" : LINK,

Xeon E5440 @ 3,69GHz with GTX 780 Ti vs. "few games" : LINK