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Is AMD really that hot?

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why are all people saying that AMD cards are hot?

i just switched from GTX 970 to R9 390 few days ago, and i have to say...

 

after 2-3 hours of heavy gaming, i touched this thingy on both of the cards: 

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when i touched the 970, i almost burned my fingers.

but when i touched the 390, guess what? Ice cold (not literally) but yes, not even hot

 

my cards:

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when i touched the 970, i almost burned my fingers.

 

That's very unusual, I've never heard of that.

My 390 runs at 40 degrees idle (passive cooling) and never goes above 60 when gaming.

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Depends on the TDP of a card and what style cooler it has. The reference 290X is extremely hot, but one with an aftermarket cooler is just fine.

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Reference cards usually run hotter. The picture is a 980, not 970.

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You have to consider the fact that you are  using a blower style card for the 970 and an aftermarket cooler on the 390. The 970 will primarily exhaust out the back and the 390 will exhaust out the sides into your case.

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AMD and Nvidia have both had cards that run hot.

 

The 970 you have is blower style, while the 390 is open. Hot air is moved out of the back of the card on the 970, while it is not on the 390, hence why it is hot on the 970. It has nothing to do with the temps of each chip. 

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Because the 970 blew out all the exhaust heat out the i/o shield due to the cooler.

 

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AMD cards are thought to be hot because of their horribly incompetent reference coolers. Their CPUs certainly produce way more heat than similar Intel parts, but that owes to large manufacturing processes.

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Reference cards usually run hotter. The picture is a 980, not 970.

just noticed, it's the same card anyway

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Cooler styles, but even then.. AMD now a days with heat is fine.

 

 

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why are all people saying that AMD cards are hot?

i just switched from GTX 970 to R9 390 few days ago, and i have to say...

 

after 2-3 hours of heavy gaming, i touched this thingy on both of the cards: 

bfg_gts250_dvi.jpg

 

when i touched the 970, i almost burned my fingers.

but when i touched the 390, guess what? Ice cold (not literally) but yes, not even hot

 

my cards:

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15081652118l.jpg

Look at the types of cooler, the 970 is a blower style so all hot air out the back!

the 390 is open so heat removed by case fans as exhausts into case.

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Look at the types of cooler, the 970 is a blower style so all hot air out the back!

the 390 is open so heat removed by case fans as exhausts into case.

 

Because the 970 blew out all the exhaust heat out the i/o shield due to the cooler.

Good point, but surely it shouldn't "nearly burn" his hands?

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AMD and Nvidia have both had cards that run hot.

 

The 970 you have is blower style, while the 390 is open. Hot air is moved out of the back of the card on the 970, while it is not on the 390, hence why it is hot on the 970. It has nothing to do with the temps of each chip. 

oh, so that's why

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Good point, but surely it shouldn't "nearly burn" his hands?

well i was overreacting, but if i held finger on it for 5 seconds, it really started to hurt :)

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well i was overreacting, but if i held finger on it for 5 seconds, it really started to hurt :)

That would explain a lot. Yeah, that part of the card is far hotter with a blower style card.

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Wow,so a cooler that exhausts all the air outside of the case through the io shield was hot? How in the world man? 

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different coolers perform differently

put the same cooler on a 970 and 390 and run them at the same fan speed, then you will clearly see the 390 is WAY hotter

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You do realize that the "AMD RUNS HOT" thing started because people were talking about TDP, yes?  And that people that don't know anything, took that as, "oh, the temps they run are hotter".  When, that's not always the case.  The TDP is the measurement of heat watts of energy.  The higher the TDP, the more heat watts of energy the GPU core is going to produce.  Now, depending on the cooling solution, that could make the temperatures vary greatly from one GPU to the next.  A GPU with a 200 watt TDP and an average cooling solution will run hotter than a GPU with a 300 watt TDP with a great cooling solution.

As a general rule of thumb?  AMD's have a higher TDP than their Intel / NVIDIA counterparts.  Thus, "they run hotter", because they are producing more "heat watts of energy".

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You have a GTX 970 refrence card with 1 fan and Sapphire R9 390 with 3 fans. Also, the 970 is blowing the hot air out of the IO shield where I guess you touched, and the R9 get the hot air out into your case.

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It's more of a stereotype/reputation than anything else really. 

Although it *is* true that the best Intel and nVidia have to offer can do the same job better with less drama, usually. But you'll pay more.

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