Fear Mongering - I'm Tired of It

[Kevguy]

You know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of people fear mongering vendors based on a a single event or rumoured stories.

Examples of what I' talking about are:

1. Corsair CX series power supply. Someone showed a pic/video of a supposed torched PC with a CX PSU. Now everyone is going around saying that if you have a corsair PSU, in particular a CX model, you need to replace it because your PC will catch fire and burn your house down.

2. Seagate hard drives. There were issues with the 2TB drives due to the flooding in Thailand a few years ago. This has been long resolved. But still people insist that if you have a Seagate Barracuda drive you need to replace it ASAP with WD before all your data is lost. They put a real personal spin on it too....your kids photos, your wedding pictures, pictures from granny's 95th birthday party, etc...will be lost forever if you have a Seagate drive.

3. AMD CPUs. They run too hot and will fry up and will melt the inside out of your case. That is why you need a big honking aftermarket cooler, otherwise your system will go on thermal overload burn your house down.

Can't we just just get a grip on reality here?

[dark_xzyph3r]

You know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of people fear mongering vendors based on a a single event or rumoured stories.

Examples of what I' talking about are:

1. Corsair CX series power supply. Someone showed a pic/video of a supposed torched PC with a CX PSU. Now everyone is going around saying that if you have a corsair PSU, in particular a CX model, you need to replace it because your PC will catch fire and burn your house down.

2. Seagate hard drives. There were issues with the 2TB drives due to the flooding in Thailand a few years ago. This has been long resolved. But still people insist that if you have a Seagate Barracuda drive you need to replace it ASAP with WD before all your data is lost. They put a real personal spin on it too....your kids photos, your wedding pictures, pictures from granny's 95th birthday party, etc...will be lost forever if you have a Seagate drive.

3. AMD CPUs. They run too hot and will fry up and will melt the inside out of your case. That is why you need a big honking aftermarket cooler, otherwise your system will go on thermal overload burn your house down.

Can't we just just get a grip on reality here?

 

I agree about the Seagate drives since I have been running 2 2TB drives in Raid 0 for about 3 years now with no probs

[Decon]

yeah I agree entirely.  People should only avoid CX parts for high end hardware

[Curufinwe_wins]

You know what I'm tired of? I'm tired of people fear mongering vendors based on a a single event or rumoured stories.

Examples of what I' talking about are:

1. Corsair CX series power supply. Someone showed a pic/video of a supposed torched PC with a CX PSU. Now everyone is going around saying that if you have a corsair PSU, in particular a CX model, you need to replace it because your PC will catch fire and burn your house down.

2. Seagate hard drives. There were issues with the 2TB drives due to the flooding in Thailand a few years ago. This has been long resolved. But still people insist that if you have a Seagate Barracuda drive you need to replace it ASAP with WD before all your data is lost. They put a real personal spin on it too....your kids photos, your wedding pictures, pictures from granny's 95th birthday party, etc...will be lost forever if you have a Seagate drive.

3. AMD CPUs. They run too hot and will fry up and will melt the inside out of your case. That is why you need a big honking aftermarket cooler, otherwise your system will go on thermal overload burn your house down.

Can't we just just get a grip on reality here?

1. It is one thing to wrongly tell people you MUST replace your psu asap. It is another thing to tell people not to buy a lineup because it's bad in general.

 

2. Same thing. They are overpriced, have poor performance, and consistently have among the (if not the) worst reliability in the market. But I won't tell you to throw one out.

 

3. Literally same thing. They throw off way more heat than any intel cpu, handle heat worse than intel cpus (which can go much higher temperatures without failure), and overall motherboard quality is much much worse. Not to mention that temperature monitoring on AMD cpu's is absolutely abhorrent. You don't need a massive aftermarket cooler, but you shouldn't be seriously overclocking on many motherboards due to VRM's literally causing rig fires. Not one. Not two. But numerous events like this HAVE occured. (In fact, many combinations are literally guaranteed to catch fire. Hence they are not recommended or supported.)

 

Again major difference between not recommending bad products and forcefully telling people you need to throw shit out.

[TheKDub]

yeah I agree entirely.  People should only avoid CX parts for high end hardware

 

Agreed, though if they're getting high end hardware, I'm sure they'd want to get a high end PSU anyways, though for people such as myself who aren't really stressing it that hard, the cx models are not that bad of an option.

[SPG]

#3 is justified, but more so because amd cpus are really old so its not worth buying them, not for the fact they run hot.

[TetraSky]

Yeah! And people should stop hating on Norton just because of their bias and outdated knowledge that doesn't even apply anymore! It has been light on the system since 2008, catches just as much junk as any other AV solution out there and IS still ranked highly on independent testings that matter.

 

Also people who say you should just use malwarebyte when asked what anti virus they should use... It's NOT an anti virus!

[Tech_Dreamer]

PCMasterrace>> Kill anyone who use consoles >>>get bored>>>Support console users>>argument>>PCmasterace>KillAnyone using a console >>> ......

[Suika]

3. AMD CPUs. They run too hot and will fry up and will melt the inside out of your case. That is why you need a big honking aftermarket cooler, otherwise your system will go on thermal overload burn your house down.

The funny part is that AMD CPUs are better at dissipating heat than Intel CPUs, but heat is not why people hate on AMD CPUs. If heat were the entire issue, then AMD would be doing a lot better than they are lmao.

[ADeadlyGinger]

But Corsair CX power supplies are actually shit...

[AresKrieger]

Cx psu's are a fire hazard due to their inability to deal with the heat they generate under high load, I don't trust seagate but won't directly advise against them, and amd is not what you should buy for a gaming cpu, which is the most common build request people have.

[Grrizz]

I'm tired of people taking valid concerns, over exaggerating them then telling people they are wrong for having those concerns

[Guest]

1. It is one thing to wrongly tell people you MUST replace your psu asap. It is another thing to tell people not to buy a lineup because it's bad in general.

 

2. Same thing. They are overpriced, have poor performance, and consistently have among the (if not the) worst reliability in the market. But I won't tell you to throw one out.

 

3. Literally same thing. They throw off way more heat than any intel cpu, handle heat worse than intel cpus (which can go much higher temperatures without failure), and overall motherboard quality is much much worse. Not to mention that temperature monitoring on AMD cpu's is absolutely abhorrent. You don't need a massive aftermarket cooler, but you shouldn't be seriously overclocking on many motherboards due to VRM's literally causing rig fires. Not one. Not two. But numerous events like this HAVE occured. (In fact, many combinations are literally guaranteed to catch fire. Hence they are not recommended or supported.)

 

Again major difference between not recommending bad products and forcefully telling people you need to throw shit out.

1. They're mediocre quality - okay

2. Have you ever seen the RA numbers on hard drives? If the majority of people had, they would look at brands quite differently. There's only 3 people on this forum I know who have: Linus & Luke thanks to NCIX and then the WD rep. Seagate doesn't fail as much as people think. It's just the backblaze data that came out that has tarnished the name.

3. They do run a little warmer however the big issue is the perception of them by the general consumer; they have always known Intel as a brand to be the best and hence ask for it.

[Curufinwe_wins]

1. They're mediocre quality - okay

2. Have you ever seen the RA numbers on hard drives? If the majority of people had, they would look at brands quite differently. There's only 3 people on this forum I know who have: Linus & Luke thanks to NCIX and then the WD rep. Seagate doesn't fail as much as people think. It's just the backblaze data that came out that has tarnished the name.

3. They do run a little warmer however the big issue is the perception of them by the general consumer; they have always known Intel as a brand to be the best and hence ask for it.

2. I have seen RMA numbers on each. It doesn't change the fact that in NA I cannot recommend any drives other than HGST as they are by far the best bang for the buck, while being near the top in both reliability and speed. 

 

3. I mean that's the reason AMD boards are so shitty in general, but it is a self-perpetuating issue.

 

But I mean that's the case for all three of these issues. I would never recommend them to people, because IMHO they never make sense anyways, but I won't tell someone they need to stop or get rid of their stuff cause it's not good enough (with the exception of overclocking on certain amd boards, which literally is a fire hazard.)

[Linusinium]

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