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[chaozbandit]

9 hours ago, JZStudios said:

Just out of curiosity, does anyone like tracks like Catalunya, Abu Dhabi, and Monaco? They suck to race on in anything other than F1, and even then, they still suck. They're just a series of drag races followed by harsh braking tests.

They're experiences in their own right, but I don't go out of my way for them unless I have to.

Catalunya is only decent with multi-class racing as it otherwise seems stale;
Abu Dhabi only looks good in the dark half of the day and makes for good hotlapping mostly, outside of single seaters (it's quite enjoyable in F2);
Monaco for the chaos of single makes is the most fun, esp if they're slow because at least then it's not a parade

 

1 hour ago, JZStudios said:

karting circuit too big for karts and too small for cars

Nah this would be Cadwell Park! Brands is fun but its all commitment and knowing how much of the curb you can cut and knowing where you'll land on the exit runoff, as it's very similar in flow to Oulton Park. The challenge is in the natural run off but its definitely raceable with GT cars (though most fun in GT4/TCR) because otherwise people tend to get punted unnecessarily.

[xAcid9]

18 hours ago, JZStudios said:

Just out of curiosity, does anyone like tracks like Catalunya, Abu Dhabi, and Monaco? They suck to race on in anything other than F1, and even then, they still suck. They're just a series of drag races followed by harsh braking tests.

Not a fan of Abu Dhabi and current Catalunya. I prefer older variant of Catalunya w/o the chicane. 

 

I like Monaco. 

[JZStudios]

15 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

They're experiences in their own right, but I don't go out of my way for them unless I have to.

Catalunya is only decent with multi-class racing as it otherwise seems stale;
Abu Dhabi only looks good in the dark half of the day and makes for good hotlapping mostly, outside of single seaters (it's quite enjoyable in F2);
Monaco for the chaos of single makes is the most fun, esp if they're slow because at least then it's not a parade

Maybe for clarity, I'm watching my buddy's house/dogs and he's got FM4, while I have a very old Fanatec GT2. I've discovered that anything above ~550 in Forza's PI values (B-class) and the cars eco-green tires are completely incapable of maintaining any semblance of grip, so every single corner is either a drift or understeering/sliding off the track. I tried to do Catalunya in a R8, just the base model, and it was a fucking nightmare.

Even still, in other games with grip these tracks are just straight lines and the only way to overtake anything is to have a better launch after corners and try to beat them on the straight. Personally I don't really care for the light up bubbly lump building in Abu Dhabi.

 

I'm now beginning to wonder if Forza is the reason I don't really care for supercars or GT class. I grew up with Forza 1, and if it's at all similar to 4, the slower cars make for way better racing with more variety between cars. The higher spec cars get more samey until it eventually homologates and is only a difference in driver skill, which is cool, but if the drivers are halfway decent there's not usually a lot of dynamics unless they really fuck up. With the dogshit F, D, and C tier, you get muscle cars, classic 90's, hot hatches, etc. with different driving lines and more variability between grip and acceleration.

 

15 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

Nah this would be Cadwell Park!

Forgot about that one. I think I mentally lump them together if it's the one I'm thinking of. Either way, I avoid both of them.

[QuantumSingularity]

Guys, does any of you have a good Audi R8 GT3 setup for Red Bull Ring in Project Cars 2? So far the best setups i came across for that car are from KrypticTMG. They really plant the car on the track he sets it up for, but he doesn't have a setup for the R8 on that track and it's one of the most raced ones of all the tracks. With his setups i drop my times by at least 3 seconds a lap and i come in under a second of the world records. So anyone with similar to his setups?

[chaozbandit]

Hmmmm

 

[PandaCopyRight]

On 8/24/2021 at 7:39 PM, chaozbandit said:

Hmmmm

 

DD from TM? will it be able to compete with Fanatecs CSL? 

[Mark Kaine]

On 7/22/2021 at 11:08 AM, xAcid9 said:

I like Monaco. 

Monaco is great especially with old f1 cars... unfortunately i bought f1 2017, its not that great, the new cars sound like vacuum cleaners.

 

 

[chaozbandit]

 

[PandaCopyRight]

13 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

 

thats a yikes

[chaozbandit]

hahahaha
 

 

[chaozbandit]

test

https://streamable.com/ahkoh4
https://streamable.com/2ch6fu

streamable embed fail lol I hate when people move over immediately after overtaking

[PandaCopyRight]

6 minutes ago, chaozbandit said:

test

https://streamable.com/ahkoh4
https://streamable.com/2ch6fu

streamable embed fail lol I hate when people move over immediately after overtaking

jfc  that is bad .... 

dont get why people cant learn to race against players .... he literally did a typical shit player vs too fast of an ai overtake 

[chaozbandit]

A daily ACC race is enough for my sanity, and away from the chaos of GT3 haha. Ive raced more barca than I care for just cause everything else is monza/spa; boring to watch f1 at but fun to practice racecraft.

 

Also finally getting around to testing how high bitrate night footage looks 

[JZStudios]

On 8/24/2021 at 9:39 AM, chaozbandit said:

Hmmmm

 

Haven't looked in here in a while, but has any of this happened? I don't trust TM to begin with, but a new joystick/yoke might be decent. Though I also read a lot of reviews that even the $400 Warthog dies pretty quick.

[chaozbandit]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:43 PM, JZStudios said:

Haven't looked in here in a while, but has any of this happened? I don't trust TM to begin with, but a new joystick/yoke might be decent. Though I also read a lot of reviews that even the $400 Warthog dies pretty quick.

No news since last month, but I havent been paying attention since the CSL DD anywho LOL
 

 

[JZStudios]

2 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

No news since last month, but I havent been paying attention since the CSL DD anywho LOL
 

 

So no? I think I saw TM made a new "budget" wheel that's more crap and more expensive than what it's supposed to be replacing.

[chaozbandit]

Recently been diving back into AMS2 because theres never good mixed lobbies for ACC in my timeslot; slightly surprised how there are still slight AV bugs in the engine but still plenty of fun in how the cars handle. Still never really got into the funky brazillian tracks, but the mainstream circuits are still a joy to drive on even with a gamepad.

 

Also the GT3 cup is (mostly) fixed and prob has the most seat time logged.

 

 

[JZStudios]

2 hours ago, chaozbandit said:

Recently been diving back into AMS2 because theres never good mixed lobbies for ACC in my timeslot; slightly surprised how there are still slight AV bugs in the engine but still plenty of fun in how the cars handle. Still never really got into the funky brazillian tracks, but the mainstream circuits are still a joy to drive on even with a gamepad.

 

Also the GT3 cup is (mostly) fixed and prob has the most seat time logged.

I haven't bought a new sim since PC2 and this is pretty much why. Though I did get Forza 7, which is close enough for me and give me more interesting races on the whole, even though the AI is a bunch of filthy cheaters. It's honestly not near as bad as people make it out to be.

[chaozbandit]

One of my streamers has the bezel-free kit on large format displays, but its quite fun seeing it in first person POV

 

 

[chaozbandit]

For my self mandated halo infinite break, I bring to you breaking news:

 

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/805550/view/3122678848532718852

 

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[QuantumSingularity]

Ok guys, can anyone please explain the logic behind the the shock and damper settings in Project Cars 2? I watched all the videos i could find that explain it and still can't quite get the hang of it, especially the bump and rebound transition. When i keep everything else the same and do very subtle changes to the bump and rebound transition (1 or 2 clicks left or right), the car goes mental and starts oversteer like mad. It's basically the same with every car. How are you supposed to set the suspension for neutral car or slight understeer. I'm already maxing out the anti-roll bars for the most understeery feel and yet in most cars except with the Porsche it's impossible to keep that back end from sliding like mad under breaking.The 2 tracks this is most pronounced are Monza and Red Bull Ring. Every other track i can get within 0.5 sec of the world record for the selected car, but on these two it's just impossible to drop in even under 2 seconds. The other odd thing about Red Bull - get almost a full second faster time with keyboard than with the wheel..?!? WTF srsly...

[chaozbandit]

10 hours ago, QuantumSingularity said:

Ok guys, can anyone please explain the logic behind the the shock and damper settings in Project Cars 2? I watched all the videos i could find that explain it and still can't quite get the hang of it, especially the bump and rebound transition. When i keep everything else the same and do very subtle changes to the bump and rebound transition (1 or 2 clicks left or right), the car goes mental and starts oversteer like mad. It's basically the same with every car. How are you supposed to set the suspension for neutral car or slight understeer. I'm already maxing out the anti-roll bars for the most understeery feel and yet in most cars except with the Porsche it's impossible to keep that back end from sliding like mad under breaking.The 2 tracks this is most pronounced are Monza and Red Bull Ring. Every other track i can get within 0.5 sec of the world record for the selected car, but on these two it's just impossible to drop in even under 2 seconds. The other odd thing about Red Bull - get almost a full second faster time with keyboard than with the wheel..?!? WTF srsly...

 

While a baseline will work at most tracks, some require more special attention depending on scan fidelity and how upset the car gets. Ontop of spring rate and travel/ride height, bump and rebound affects how quickly the shock will deflect/absorb a load and how long it takes the car to settle. It will take time to get these values tailored to your driving style though, especially if you are opting for more mechanical grip or to sustain higher aero load.

 

If a surface is very bumpy you may want to soften the shocks so you dont get sent to the moon over the smallest rock, or if its smooth you may stiffen them up to maintain a uniform ride height at speed.

 

Without touching the shocks, you can address turn in response via ARBs and alignment.

 

Edit: to induce understeer you want less (or no) ARB so the car will lean into that corner and momentum will result in push.

 

 

[QuantumSingularity]

On 11/21/2021 at 8:55 PM, chaozbandit said:

 

While a baseline will work at most tracks, some require more special attention depending on scan fidelity and how upset the car gets. Ontop of spring rate and travel/ride height, bump and rebound affects how quickly the shock will deflect/absorb a load and how long it takes the car to settle. It will take time to get these values tailored to your driving style though, especially if you are opting for more mechanical grip or to sustain higher aero load.

 

If a surface is very bumpy you may want to soften the shocks so you dont get sent to the moon over the smallest rock, or if its smooth you may stiffen them up to maintain a uniform ride height at speed.

 

Without touching the shocks, you can address turn in response via ARBs and alignment.

 

Edit: to induce understeer you want less (or no) ARB so the car will lean into that corner and momentum will result in push.

 

 

Yup, that point i got, for smoother tracks like Monza i go almost all the way to the max values making the dampers and shocks as stiff as possible and for Red Bull - as soft as possible, with higher ride height, because of all the bump and kerb rides. I'm also well aware of the bump stop values, but what i can't understand and the logic behind it is the bump and rebound transition. What's the effect of increasing and decreasing it? Because whichever i change it, the car starts to act like a deranged monkey.

As for the ARB, at Monza for example my front ARB is the stiffest possible and the rear is as soft as possible which in theory should bring understeer and yet at almost every breaking, the end starts sliding even with 80/20 front/rear break bias. 

[PandaCopyRight]

https://gtddpro.fanatec.com/
Looks like another new DD base from Fanatec? 
But this time for PS and Gran Turismo licensed? 

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[chaozbandit]

1 hour ago, PandaCopyRight said:

https://gtddpro.fanatec.com/
Looks like another new DD base from Fanatec? 
But this time for PS and Gran Turismo licensed? 

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