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Cooler Master Closed-Loop Coolers To Be Pulled From U.S. Market

durfyn00b
By durfyn00b
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inb4 $2000 Fury X

/s

No, I'm just kidding.

 

 

I'm curious to see how this affects AMD's Fury X. They certainly have some sort of contract with Cooler Master.

Can you get that ASCII out of your title it is REALLY annoying to read through it

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Maybe that is a good thing. It forces other manufacturers to innovate and come up with new ideas and designs. We'll see.

Doesn't sound good when the patent system forces companies to waste time designing something different when the existing design is perfectly fine, but its use is restricted by a patent that will only be licensed on Asetek's terms.

 

Actually, there is another exception. Corair has some AIOs OEM'd by CoolIT. CoolIT was sued by Asetek over them but it was ruled that due to the Corsair AIOs having some custom design to them it did not fall under infringement of Asetek's patents.

I think it's more because Corsair is licensed to use Asetek's cooler design. The court ruled that Corsair was permitted to outsource the manufacturing to CoolIT.

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Can you get that ASCII out of your title it is REALLY annoying to read through it

Sure.

And it's not ASCII :P

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Dont get corsair af. They suck, no really they do. I bought a twin pack.... Buy a NF-F12 pwm fan. They are ugly af. But they are easier to fine tune the rpm.... Corsair Af isn't that good for low rpm control...

I'll keep that in mind. However they'd still be better than the current fan. At mid to high RPM the airflow gets that turbulent that anything infront of or behind the fan-even a grill-causes large amounts of airflow noise to compound the shitty fan motor. And for a supposed radiator fan that's very bad news.

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Doesn't sound good when the patent system forces companies to waste time designing something different when the existing design is perfectly fine, but its use is restricted by a patent that will only be licensed on Asetek's terms.

 

I think it's more because Corsair is licensed to use Asetek's cooler design. The court ruled that Corsair was permitted to outsource the manufacturing to CoolIT.

 

Partly, yeah. It also came down to the CoolIT ones being different enough to not be exact copies of the Asetek design. If Corsair had had CoolIT make something that was an exact replica they probably would have lost.

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Sure.

And it's not ASCII :P

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Doesn't sound good when the patent system forces companies to waste time designing something different when the existing design is perfectly fine, but its use is restricted by a patent that will only be licensed on Asetek's terms.

 

I think it's more because Corsair is licensed to use Asetek's cooler design. The court ruled that Corsair was permitted to outsource the manufacturing to CoolIT.

 

That is the entire idea behind the patent system. I really don't get how people understand this:

1. You come up with a great idea to do something more efficiently.

2. You patent this idea.

3. Other people can licence your idea on your terms, for it was you who invented it and you have the full right to do with your property as you wish, or they can try to come up with something else.

3.5 - SHOULD - the patent be flagged as a general use patent, a court rules on the licence fee. This in case for example in an industry a patented idea is so much better than the competition that they could simply not licence it to others and due to their superior product become a monopoly.

 

If you don't agree with the licence terms of a patent holder ( obviously he's asking to much money ), then you will have to invent something yourself. If this costs more money, then you will just have to licence it from the patent holder.

If you weren't able to protect your inventions and make money of them, why would you ever spend your time thinking about them? Having no patent system would stop the world from spending the enormous amounts of money on R&D simply because others would then copy them and not have spend a penny on R&D.

 

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On the other hand, in the USA the patent system is broken and ridiculous patents have been granted, which is why they are all being revised as the EPO ( European Patent Office ) is working on merging the two databases and creating one big patent database for North America and Europe combined. Here in Europe patents for example weren't granted on software features like "the icon bumps back when you swipe to the edge".

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That is the entire idea behind the patent system. I really don't get how people understand this:

1. You come up with a great idea to do something more efficiently.

2. You patent this idea.

3. Other people can licence your idea on your terms, for it was you who invented it and you have the full right to do with your property as you wish, or they can try to come up with something else.

3.5 - SHOULD - the patent be flagged as a general use patent, a court rules on the licence fee. This in case for example in an industry a patented idea is so much better than the competition that they could simply not licence it to others and due to their superior product become a monopoly.

 

If you don't agree with the licence terms of a patent holder ( obviously he's asking to much money ), then you will have to invent something yourself. If this costs more money, then you will just have to licence it from the patent holder.

If you weren't able to protect your inventions and make money of them, why would you ever spend your time thinking about them? Having no patent system would stop the world from spending the enormous amounts of money on R&D simply because others would then copy them and not have spend a penny on R&D.

 

/rant

On the other hand, in the USA the patent system is broken and ridiculous patents have been granted, which is why they are all being revised as the EPO ( European Patent Office ) is working on merging the two databases and creating one big patent database for North America and Europe combined. Here in Europe patents for example weren't granted on software features like "the icon bumps back when you swipe to the edge".

Eh? Does 3.5 really exist? Although I don't imagine a court would take that action over anything less than a patent for a cure to a deadly pandemic disease.

 

Some might say that encouraging people to "design-around" patents is a good thing because it forces the exploration of other, possibly better solutions, but I think it's more a waste of R&D time. Ideally the original patent would be licensed on terms that both parties could agree to. Not sure if I should blame Asetek for setting the price too high, or Cooler Master and Swiftech for failing to find a way to make a profit after whatever the licensing fees would have been. At least Corsair seems to have succeeded in licensing the patent... But on the other hand Swiftech chose to design-around by sticking the pump on the radiator.

 

I'll agree that most of the problem is that the bar for patentability is too frequently set too low, and obvious but useful stuff gets patented.

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Eh? Does 3.5 really exist? Although I don't imagine a court would take that action over anything less than a patent for a cure to a deadly pandemic disease.

 

Some might say that encouraging people to "design around" patents is a good thing because it forces the exploration of other, possibly better solutions, but I think it's more a waste of time.

 

3.5 actually exists. I don't know the exact term for it or if it exists in the USA, but in Europe a patent can be granted for an invention but it can be marked that it has to be licensed for a reasonable price to other companies. Reasonable price is usually just agreed between companies but it is possible to go to court if you think the licence fee is too high. I know quite a few people who work at the EPO due to me living in the city where the office is located. Once you talk to someone working in the system you realize that there's a lot more to patents than the usual "Apple patents square with rounded corners".... At least in Europe :P

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This is all because of the retarded patent law. Where you can scribble something on a piece of paper and claim IP for all eternity!

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This is all because of the retarded patent law. Where you can scribble something on a piece of paper and claim IP for all eternity!

Not eternity. Only around 15-25 years, which still sounds a little long in my opinion.

 

Some authentic R&D went into cramming the reservoir, pump and water block into one unit that works effectively enough to compete with separate water cooling parts; an amount of R&D that justifies a patent. It's not like Asetek patented an idea without producing working prototypes, without selling it to consumers, or without licensing it to other companies.

 

The main problem here is Cooler Master and Asetek failing to reach a license agreement. >.>

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RIP Coolermaster, buy now or buy never!

 

I personally prefer corsair AIOs anyways, so not much of an impact on me :P

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Not eternity. Only around 15-25 years, which still sounds a little long in my opinion.

 

Some authentic R&D went into cramming the reservoir, pump and water block into one unit that works effectively enough to compete with separate water cooling parts; an amount of R&D that justifies a patent. It's not like Asetek patented an idea without producing working prototypes, without selling it to consumers, or without licensing it to other companies.

 

The main problem here is Cooler Master and Asetek failing to reach a license agreement. >.>

Sounds like it's because Asetek is greedy. If they want to monopolise the AIO market they have to manufacture the units themselves and stop complaining. It doesn't really matter if they were the ones who did the R&D initially. You can't prove that no one else would have done it.

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So those who put the pump on the fan itself are fine......

 

Antec Patented that one.... Kappa

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Antec Patented that one.... Kappa

Exactly. Antec is fine. CM needs to have the pump separate from the rest of the AIO now to avoid conflicting with Antec and Asetek.

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This is all because of the retarded patent law. Where you can scribble something on a piece of paper and claim IP for all eternity!

 

Sounds like it's because Asetek is greedy. If they want to monopolise the AIO market they have to manufacture the units themselves and stop complaining. It doesn't really matter if they were the ones who did the R&D initially. You can't prove that no one else would have done it.

 

Imagination time:

 

Go invent something, pour tons of money in it, patent it, start a company and then hire employees that you have to pay.

 

Other companies think they can sell your product with different properties, so they contact you through proper channels to get a license to use your design.

 

Now some company bought your product, studied it and used it as a reference for their design for a now competing product. You invented the thing to begin with, yet you're not receiving any royalties for the sales - YOUR product, YOUR invention, YOUR design. They didn't license your design from you.

 

Your company is now taking a hit on income since this one company isn't going through the proper channels to license your design.

 

Don't tell me you wouldn't file a lawsuit.

 

I completely get the argument that they didn't invent the whole "radiator attached to a cooling block", but they did make it work for PC AIOs. It's their baby.

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Imagination time:

 

Go invent something, pour tons of money in it, patent it, start a company and then hire employees that you have to pay.

 

Other companies think they can sell your product with different properties, so they contact you through proper channels to get a license to use your design.

 

Now some company bought your product, studied it and used it as a reference for their design for a now competing product. You invented the thing to begin with, yet you're not receiving any royalties for the sales - YOUR product, YOUR invention, YOUR design. They didn't license your design from you.

 

Your company is now taking a hit on income since this one company isn't going through the proper channels to license your design.

 

Don't tell me you wouldn't file a lawsuit.

 

I completely get the argument that they didn't invent the whole "radiator attached to a cooling block", but they did make it work for PC AIOs. It's their baby.

They did indeed make it work for PC AIOs. Years ago, they got licensing deals and made money though royalties. Thinking you can do that forever without doing ANYTHING else ever again isn't fair business. Most products have competing brands and designers because there is no patent bullshit. In the US, even Apple has claimed Swipe to Unlock on smartphones. You would defend a system that legitimises that?

 

I think the USA and it's citizens have been kidding themselves for too long about how the world works, your only salvation will be Bernie Sanders.

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They did indeed make it work for PC AIOs. Years ago, they got licensing deals and made money though royalties. Thinking you can do that forever without doing ANYTHING else ever again isn't fair business. Most products have competing brands and designers because there is no patent bullshit. In the US, even Apple has claimed Swipe to Unlock on smartphones. You would defend a system that legitimises that?

 

I think the USA and it's citizens have been kidding themselves for too long about how the world works, your only salvation will be Bernie Sanders.

 

No, I wouldn't defend something like "swipe to unlock" for reasons that I lack the proper words for a reason. I know our patent system is in the favor of patent trolls, don't get me wrong, but don't throw me in the "ignorant American box". I'm not dumb. Asetek and the "system" is in the right in this situation.

 

Bernie, while I'm voting for him if it comes down to it, can only do so much. You've got stubborn people sitting in other office positions who don't know how the world works since they don't bother to interact with anyone other than their 1%'er buddies. Then you have the countless Americans who believe every word their favorite politican says and will defend them to their last breath without realizing even if their favorite politician were actually for bringing good things to America, they actually can't do it by themselves.

 

So no, Bernie is not our only salvation. That statement also implies we're doomed in some way. We're just fine compared to the rest of the world, especially your country (sorry to say).

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No, I wouldn't defend something like "swipe to unlock" for reasons that I lack the proper words for a reason. I know our patent system is in the favor of patent trolls, don't get me wrong, but don't throw me in the "ignorant American box". I'm not dumb. Asetek and the "system" is in the right in this situation.

 

Bernie, while I'm voting for him if it comes down to it, can only do so much. You've got stubborn people sitting in other office positions who don't know how the world works since they don't bother to interact with anyone other than their 1%'er buddies. Then you have the countless Americans who believe every word their favorite politican says and will defend them to their last breath without realizing even if their favorite politician were actually for bringing good things to America, they actually can't do it by themselves.

 

So no, Bernie is not our only salvation. That statement also implies we're doomed in some way. We're just fine compared to the rest of the world, especially your country (sorry to say).

Even with a conservative government, Australia has public healthcare, much more restrictions on firearms, a higher standard of living, a better standard of social security, an employment safety net, a higher minimum wage and a smaller gap between classes. Not just by a bit, all of these things Australia leaves America in the dust on. We also don't have the same sort of incarceration rates and we don't have as many racially motivated crimes. IP in Australia is also protected by copyright law by default, you don't need to claim a patent or jump through any hoops. Leaving it up to the courts and the discretion of the law prevents abuse of the system. Taking total ownership of an idea and profiting off it without contributing anything more is abuse of the system in America.

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Even with a conservative government, Australia has public healthcare, much more restrictions on firearms, a higher standard of living, a higher minimum wage and a smaller gap between classes. Not just by a bit, all of these things Australia leaves America in the dust on. We also don't have the same sort of incarceration rates and we don't have as many racially motivated crimes. IP in Australia is also protected by copyright law by default, you don't need to claim a patent or jump through any hoops. Leaving it up to the courts and the discretion of the law prevents abuse of the system.

We do however have politicians that act retarded and mainly go for votes-just like America. (Things are still better however).

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Even with a conservative government, Australia has public healthcare, much more restrictions on firearms, a higher standard of living, a higher minimum wage and a smaller gap between classes. Not just by a bit, all of these things Australia leaves America in the dust on. We also don't have the same sort of incarceration rates and we don't have as many racially motivated crimes. IP in Australia is also protected by copyright law by default, you don't need to claim a patent or jump through any hoops. Leaving it up to the courts and the discretion of the law prevents abuse of the system.

 

I don't want this to turn into a "my country is better than yours"; I could list so many things wrong with your country, just like you could list so many things about mine. So lets just not do that.

 

But to respond one of your statements, our copyright system is still existent, but it doesn't protect tangible inventions.The reason this is (I think) is because any normal Joe could claim a copyright on something like (for example) an AIO liquid cooler for a CPU, and then the courts have to sort through who actually owns the product. Patents remove the headache. While our patent system looks good on paper, obviously it's broken in more ways than it solves.

 

So Asetek has a patent on the specific design, and they're actually using the patent and not sitting on it.

 

Copyright is for things like music, art, etc, because then you can actually prove you created and own the original idea and creation very easily, especially on digital platforms since digital time stamps are a thing.

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Sounds like it's because Asetek is greedy. If they want to monopolise the AIO market they have to manufacture the units themselves and stop complaining. It doesn't really matter if they were the ones who did the R&D initially. You can't prove that no one else would have done it.

It's impossible for Asetek to satisfy the entire AIO market by themselves, so they license Corsair (and NZXT, and some others?) to help, with the condition that Asetek gets a small percentage of the revenue from sales of products with their patented invention.

 

The cost of R&D isn't negligible, so it isn't fair for Cooler Master to reverse engineer a product and sell it, while Asetek had to develop it before it could sell it. Fair assumption: reverse engineering something is a lot cheaper than developing it. Since Cooler Master has benefited from Asetek's prior work, they should pay for that benefit. Sure, Asetek could propose an exorbitantly high licensing fee, preventing Cooler Master from entering the market, which would create artificial scarcity in the AIO market, which probably won't hurt Asetek since they and their licensees can just sell AIOs at higher prices, but will hurt the consumer since they have to pay more. The fact that there are at least 2 design-arounds of this patent (Swiftech, pump on radiator, and Antec, pump on fan(!)) suggests that the license fees were so high that it was worth doing R&D all over again just to avoid patent infringement, which seems wasteful.

 

I'm open to the argument that patent holders have too much power to claim an exorbitant fee for licensing their patents, but no-one is really willing to regulate what the fees should be, and you have to give them something for using their invention. Unfortunately, we live in a free-market world where a anything is worth whatever its owner can sell it for, and if they don't like that price, they can just hog it for themselves, which gives the patent holder power when negotiating licensing agreements. If you contend that we don't have to give the inventors anything, then imagine that Asetek incurs a lot of R&D costs before selling their AIO, while Cooler Master incurs far less R&D costs by reverse engineering Asetek's AIO or reading their patent documentation, and ask yourself, is it fair that Cooler Master gets an advantage from not developing the AIO, and just manufacturing it with free help from Asetek?

 

Patents are there to bridge the gap between high R&D costs and low manufacturing costs. Unfortunately, when R&D costs aren't actually that high (or maybe when R&D is done inefficiently), the patent system becomes open to abuse. I cringe a bit when American politicians point at high numbers of new patents as a statistic that suggests their technology industry is doing well. >.>

 

 

They did indeed make it work for PC AIOs. Years ago, they got licensing deals and made money though royalties. Thinking you can do that forever without doing ANYTHING else ever again isn't fair business. Most products have competing brands and designers because there is no patent bullshit. -snip-

 

I think the USA and it's citizens have been kidding themselves for too long about how the world works, your only salvation will be Bernie Sanders.

Again, patents are not forever. They only last 20 years, which I think is a little long. Not everything needs patents because not everything has high R&D costs.

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So now people from the states are going to buy banned CM AIO coolers from Canadian retailers

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if i ordered something right now before the store pulls it, can it still be cancelled or will purchase be honored?

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