Worth waiting for AM4 CPUs?

[pckid]

I am currently running an Athlon X4 860K in my pc and is it worth saving up for the Zen processors that are supposed to come out next year.

[EarthboundHero]

If you can get the money now, get Skylake, Haswell or Broadwell. If you have to save, then wait for Zen and see how it does.

[pckid]

If you can get the money now, get Skylake, Haswell or Broadwell. If you have to save, then wait for Zen and see how it does.

I heard they were goin to be clocked at 6GHz!

[Godlygamer23]

In light of AMD's last architectural releases beginning with Bulldozer, I'm going to say you're better off just switching to Intel's platform. That being said, AMD may release something worthwhile, but considering their budget is much lower than Intel's, I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath either.

[EarthboundHero]

I heard they were goin to be clocked at 6GHz!

That doesn't mean anything. The 9590 is clocked at 5 and doesn't even touch a 4790K.

[Godlygamer23]

I heard they were goin to be clocked at 6GHz!

That makes me think they have poor IPC.

[Mug]

Idk, they were initially rumoured to come out November 2014, then April 2015. Who knows when they are coming, hopes that they are coming out next year are illusive imo.

 

If you wanna build a computer, the 8350 is a good option still but I'd go Intel because they still have their shit together.

[pckid]

In light of AMD's last architectural releases beginning with Bulldozer, I'm going to say you're better off just switching to Intel's platform. That being said, AMD may release something worthwhile, but considering their budget is much lower than Intel's, I wouldn't necessarily hold my breath either.

AMD said they were going to be twice as fast as the Bulldozer architecture.

[pckid]

Idk, they were initially rumoured to come out November 2014, then April 2015. Who knows when they are coming, hopes that they are coming out next year are illusive imo.

If you wanna build a computer, the 8350 is a good option still but I'd go Intel because they still have their shit together.

I already have an Athlon X4 860K at 4.2Ghz

[Dabombinable]

That makes me think they have poor IPC.

*shudders* shades of Netburst and bulldozer.

[EarthboundHero]

Idk, they were initially rumoured to come out November 2014, then April 2015. Who knows when they are coming, hopes that they are coming out next year are illusive imo.

 

If you wanna build a computer, the 8350 is a good option still but I'd go Intel because they still have their shit together.

They're confirmed for 2016. Also, a 4690K build costs the same if not very little more and decimates the 8350 in single threaded workloads.

AMD said they were going to be twice as fast as the Bulldozer architecture.

That may or may not be true, you just have to wait and see.

[Mug]

AMD said they were going to be twice as fast as the Bulldozer architecture.

If a salesman told you that one umbrella was "twice as waterproof" as another umbrella, would you buy that umbrella therefore just because of what the salesman said?

 

imo it's a load of horse.

[Dabombinable]

AMD said they were going to be twice as fast as the Bulldozer architecture.

Or around the performance of Haswell.

[Godlygamer23]

AMD said they were going to be twice as fast as the Bulldozer architecture.

Just like AMD said they were going to destroy "the competition" aka Intel with said Bulldozer architecture or destroy the Titan X with Fiji....They didn't do either of those things. I'm not saying they're wrong or lying, but rather, be skeptical of their claims. Though, I would do that with any company anyways.

[Dabombinable]

Just like AMD said they were going to destroy "the competition" aka Intel with said Bulldozer architecture or destroy the Titan X with Fiji....They didn't do either of those things.

Which is why no one should believe what AMD says at the moment. Keep an eye out yes just in case things change, but otherwise they just can't be trusted. (I want the AMD 386 DX-40 days back  )

[pckid]

Just like AMD said they were going to destroy "the competition" aka Intel with said Bulldozer architecture or destroy the Titan X with Fiji....They didn't do either of those things.

AMD needs to do something big because they are 74% likely to go bankrupt where Intel is only 10% likely to go bankrupt.

[comicsansms]

I would wait if you want AMD or if you need to save up!

[Glenwing]

Just like AMD said they were going to destroy "the competition" aka Intel with said Bulldozer architecture or destroy the Titan X with Fiji....They didn't do either of those things. I'm not saying they're wrong or lying, but rather, be skeptical of their claims. Though, I would do that with any company anyways.

They gave us actual numbers this time at least, 40% better IPC than steamroller, from AMD's mouth. That puts it about 60% better than Piledriver (FX-8350/9590), at equal frequency. We'll see though.

[QueenDemetria]

 or destroy the Titan X with Fiji

I don't think they ever said that, I'm pretty sure that was consumer generated hype. 

[MeDownYou]

That makes me think they have poor IPC.

from numbers they are suppose to compare ipc to haswell chips, and have more cores, while I don't think they are lying that was their goal they will probably only reach sandy bridge IPC with more cores. which is still good, but just not great.

[pckid]

from numbers they are suppose to compare ipc to haswell chips, and have more cores, while I don't think they are lying that was their goal they will probably only reach sandy bridge IPC with more cores. which is still good, but just not great.

I think the Zen is supposed to be a quad core with 8mb of l3 cache

[MeDownYou]

I think the Zen is supposed to be a quad core with 8mb of l3 cache

According to AMD they are suppose to be quad to octo core chips and there is a rumor of...a... (HUGE MAYBE for a 16 core chip)

[pckid]

According to AMD they are suppose to be quad to octo core chips and there is a rumor of...a... (HUGE MAYBE for a 16 core chip)

Another reason I might upgrade to Zen is the cool features on motherboards that it might get that high end Intel motherboards have.

[JoshB2084]

According to AMD they are suppose to be quad to octo core chips and there is a rumor of...a... (HUGE MAYBE for a 16 core chip)

16 CORE?!?!

 

Sorry.

[MeDownYou]

Another reason I might upgrade to Zen is the cool features on motherboards that it might get that high end Intel motherboards have.

Honestly if you don't have the money to upgrade by December, I'd wait it out until Zen launches anyway. We are going to see a price war or something good from amd and intel. After all AMD needs to play a royal flush or fold, but I wonder what Intel will do?