AMD Zen

[RuLeZ]

So what you guys expect from it? Are somebody from here already saving some money for a new build considering Zen?

[1Scotty1]

It wont compare to Intel one bit... just my thoughts

[SirRoderick]

I have no idea what to expect. I'm HOPING for AMD to release something that just makes sense price/performance so that they don't only get used in AP builds by anyone with a passing knowledge of their products. I would LOVE to say that you could use a Zen CPU instead of an i3 or i5 without any compromise.

[Deletive]

It probably won't be comparable to skylake, but still a big enough improvement to be relevant. I'm thinking like ivy bridge, haswell.

[Sauron]

how the hell are we soppused to know? I hope it will be awesome and force intel to give us something more than an extra 10% performance every 16 months, but since we know almost nothing about it yet it could really be anything.

[Mkfish]

Probably going to suck.

[Mug]

Bulldozer was a disappointment. I expect to be disappointed again.

 

They should put their high end GPU die on high end CPUs then I'd consider buying.

[Delusional Phil]

I ain't a psychic ... So I'm gonna wait ... 

[SurvivorNVL]

The hope is that it'll match Haswell-E, but cheaper.  That way 8c/16t can be more of the $400-$600, and 10c/20t or 12c/24t is the $1000 / $1500 mark.  If it is Haswell-E speed -and- pricing - it will be a failure.  Even if it is an update and people will buy it and use it for a few years.  It'll be a flop.  If they can get 8 cores that OC well, with Haswell-E performance, and at $400 / $600.  They win that go around.  Even if Skylake-E is faster by a few percent.  Zen'll probably still have better price to performance.  Hopefully Zen puts AMD back on the map and someone like Microsoft gobbles them up and injects them with the ability to stay around a decade longer and churn out success after success.  

[Guest Johnny5g]

What is the zen?

[PudgyAstronaut]

I would expect it to be reasonably competitive with some 4th gen i7s, and not sure about launch price, but I could see the price either coming out really competitive or quickly being forced down to be competitive. If they can make a $250-$300 unthusiast class CPU, that should help the market a good amount, and will make decisions much more complex regarding builds, since right now it's basically:

 

Do you have more than $150? ---> Intel

Do you have $120-$150?         ---> FX looks good, but i3 if you need single core

Do you have <$120?                ---> AMD, unless you only need like 2 cores somehow.

 

I hope that changes soon.

[ManWithBeard1990]

It can't be that bad. I mean, Piledriver is still around. Sure, it isn't competitive with Haswell, but what do you expect? Two newer CPU architectures have been released since then, namely Steamroller and Excavator, each with their own improvements. They've now reached the end of the line in terms of what the earthmover-series of CPUs had to offer and probably learned a thing or two. Zen will be a three-generation jump for their performance desktop line, and so has every chance of becoming as good as we hope it will be.

Now, they've learned that focussing too much on the low-end was a bad idea. They've learned that clustered multithreading was not as efficient as hyperthreading. Incremental improvements to scheduler and branch prediction performance will keep coming, and newer instruction set extensions will be implemented. This is probably their last chance to stay remotely relevant as a company and with the current staff they actually have a decent chance to get it right this time. Meanwhile everyone is struggling to get lithographies smaller and smaller so Intel's lead in manufacturing technology will become less of a problem than it has been recently. AMD have been known to make poor decisions though so it'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

[MetaDrow]

So far we very little info about zen, but I expect some sort of comeback from AMD

[Briggsy]

Given that AMD are going back to their roots architecture but doing it at 16nm, I expect to see either a very powerful APU where most of the die space is allocated to the GPU, or a true CPU without any iGPU that is comparable to a 5960x. If AMD try to go the quad core with hyper-threading route, there will be no reason to upgrade, but all signs so far point to an 8-core multi-threaded mainstream flagship, and a 16-core with multi-threading server cpu.

[kipper]

Gonna be an upgrade from Phenom II unlike FX.

[manikyath]

at this point i've replaced "expecting" with "hoping"...

 

and that counts for AMD, intel, and nvidia.

[BeakTrots]

I'm just hoping that they keep things competitive, just so that us consumers are happy

[G9x001]

Intel Kaby lake will be released by the time Zen is released in late 2016 so I would say going by history it will perform about 10% slower then the intel CPU at the same price range. AMD make great products but they never perform like they claim they will. look at the Fury graphics cards and what a heap of crap they are. 

[Sintezza]

Simply only one correct answer.

 

WE DONT KNOW YET! 

[Rohit Jackdaw]

I hope it won't be cheap. AMD usually price their CPUs at high end until no one buys them. See the 9590 at 1000$ at launch and now around 250-300$. And they packed it in a very small package the size of two CPUs. That shows their care. I hope the upcoming ones will be powerful at the least

[Imakuni]

I'm really hoping for option 1, but I bet it'll be either 4 or 5. Just please... don't be 6. Please. For the sake of the consumers, don't be 6.....

[alleyn321]

I dont think Zen will be Ultra extreme High end CPU so it will not beat intel

 

 

I like AMD but the truth is that Intel has better high end CPUs. What Im expecting is going to happen Zen will be "bit of everything". New features never seen before, 

 

"Going to be better than intel on performance" - Is a stupid "poll answer"

 

Since AMD dont have any High end CPU does that mean Intel is better in performance?

[DarkSmith2]

Well, considering everyone blaming the new cpu's that come out in every single way and try to convince people to buy old stuff.

I guess everyone will hate Zen when it gets released the same way it was with Haswell-E and Skylake.

[juretrn]

There is a 1% chance a new Athlon 64 will happen, and a 99% chance an Intel catch up will happen. I still doubt AMD will reach Intel's single thread performance.

[Zoomv]

I dont think Zen will be Ultra extreme High end CPU so it will not beat intel

 

 

I like AMD but the truth is that Intel has better high end CPUs. What Im expecting is going to happen Zen will be "bit of everything". New features never seen before, 

 

"Going to be better than intel on performance" - Is a stupid "poll answer"

 

Since AMD dont have any High end CPU does that mean Intel is better in performance?

i hope this changes soon