Why didn't they develope intellectually ?

[Delusional Phil]

Earth is 4,567 billion years old , life form around 3,5 billion years ago , 5 billion species have lived and died , so why , between the periods of the 5 mass extinction , why haven't there been any creature that rise in intellectuality ? 

 

Intellectuality as in have a set of languages that can describe everything and have a tight society that is on a global scale , not like wolfs communicating or chimpanzee taking care of eachother , the kind of intellect that we are using , we are capable of learning other languages , we can build tools with our hands and have curiousity , it's not that special because most animals have curiosity . If so , why didn't Dinosaurs develope intelligence ? ( I'm not asking why the sea creatures didn't develope intelligence because at that time , basic things are still being develope like sensors : Eyes , ears , touch . ) 

 

If they are occupied by survival , then why didn't the animal that is on top of the food chain , after millions of years of domination , never develope intellectuality ? ( I also remembered that some sea creatures roam and spread terror to the sea far longer than any kind of dinosaurs ) 

 

This is probably a stupid question but I will post this because I want to know , the question came out of no where after  watching Jurassic World ( Yes ... Judge me ... )

 

Also ... Another funny thing popped into my head : The Indominus Rex was a copy of the white Dinosaur in Ice Age 3  :lol:

 

 

 

 

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Can you like not put spaces between your punctuation?

[You_are_a_cunt]

So, humans haven't developed intellectually? 

[misthosg]

Some species just don't have the intellectual capability to develop as humans did. Apes show to be extremely smart, I am not sure why they haven't developed that much

[Swndlr]

The way I look at it, we're just the lucky species.

[Enderman]

Theres only a certain chance of that happening, a lot of natural selection, and luck. You have no idea how long it takes.

Just because our planet is 4 billion years old doesn't mean anything. Maybe only 1 intellectual species appears every 23.5412 trillion years, and we are the first here.

 

You cant make assumptions that this is a regular event on a schedule...

[You_are_a_cunt]

The way I see it, ever since we (humans) developed our society, we've been slowly killing off most other evolutionary candidates. If memory serves, I remember reading somewhere something along the lines of "humans are an anomaly that has developed itself over the past <some ridiculous time period> years", something I could agree with taking into consideration the number of "right" genetic mutations necessary for the human genome to get where it is today.

Other species haven't evolved to the point where they could be considered intelligent (heck, some haven't evolved at all in the past million years).

Some studies point to the existence of a parallel humanoid species that lived alongside Homo Sapiens that have slowly died out (presumably due to bullying from our ancestors).

Evolution is pretty much a hit or miss process that takes millions to billions of years, so Planet of the Apes is still a valid possibility.

[Delusional Phil]

Can you like not put spaces between your punctuation?

 

It's a habit , I feel awkward for the letters if I do this : hello. my name is... It's just don't feel right to me ... 

 

So, humans haven't developed intellectually? 

 

I said animals , not humans ... 

 

Some species just don't have the intellectual capability to develop as humans did. Apes show to be extremely smart, I am not sure why they haven't developed that much

Dolphins have develope intellectuality , wolfs , elephants , lions have develope it , but never have any level of intellect as high and vast as we do ... 

 

 

The way I look at it, we're just the lucky species.

Maybe , maybe not ... 

 

 

Theres only a certain chance of that happening, a lot of natural selection, and luck. You have no idea how long it takes.

Just because our planet is 4 billion years old doesn't mean anything. Maybe only 1 intellectual species appears every 23.5412 trillion years, and we are the first here.

 

You cant make assumptions that this is a regular event on a schedule...

Yeah ... But shouldn't the extra capability of perception benefit the predators as well ?

 

I know that it can't happen easily , but what are the conditions to develope intelligence ?

 

It's the Fermi Paradox right ? 

 

The way I see it, ever since we (humans) developed our society, we've been slowly killing off most other evolutionary candidates. If memory serves, I remember reading somewhere something along the lines of "humans are an anomaly that has developed itself over the past <some ridiculous time period> years", something I could agree with taking into consideration the number of "right" genetic mutations necessary for the human genome to get where it is today.

Other species haven't evolved to the point where they could be considered intelligent (heck, some haven't evolved at all in the past million years).

Some studies point to the existence of a parallel humanoid species that lived alongside Homo Sapiens that have slowly died out (presumably due to bullying from our ancestors).

Evolution is pretty much a hit or miss process that takes millions to billions of years, so Planet of the Apes is still a valid possibility.

But what are the mutations of intellect ? could it be the transition from walking on four legs to standing expand our conciousness and develope intecllect ? ( But that can't be right because there are bigger animals before us ... )

[Swndlr]

 

Maybe , maybe not ... 

 

Well if we werent lucky, what were we?

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It's a habit , I feel awkward for the letters if I do this : hello. my name is... It's just don't feel right to me ... 

 

 

I said animals , not humans ... 

 

Dolphins have develope intellectuality , wolfs , elephants , lions have develope it , but never have any level of intellect as high and vast as we do ... 

 

 

Maybe , maybe not ... 

 

 

Yeah ... But shouldn't the extra capability of perception benefit the predators as well ?

 

I know that it can't happen easily , but what are the conditions to develope intelligence ?

 

It's the Fermi Paradox right ? 

 

But what are the mutations of intellect ? could it be the transition from walking on four legs to standing expand our conciousness and develope intecllect ? ( But that can't be right because there are bigger animals before us ... )

 

It should be: Hello, my name is...

[AlwaysFSX]

Who says there hasn't been any intellectual life on the level of humans? The only problem is that it takes time for things to develop and evolve. And I bet if I put someone in a room with a dinosaur that the dinosaur is likely to eat them no matter their intelligence. So there's that.

[Speaker1264]

It's a habit , I feel awkward for the letters if I do this : hello. my name is... It's just don't feel right to me ... 

 

 

I said animals , not humans ... 

 

Dolphins have develope intellectuality , wolfs , elephants , lions have develope it , but never have any level of intellect as high and vast as we do ... 

 

 

Maybe , maybe not ... 

 

 

Yeah ... But shouldn't the extra capability of perception benefit the predators as well ?

 

I know that it can't happen easily , but what are the conditions to develope intelligence ?

 

It's the Fermi Paradox right ? 

 

But what are the mutations of intellect ? could it be the transition from walking on four legs to standing expand our conciousness and develope intecllect ? ( But that can't be right because there are bigger animals before us ... )

 

For them to actually be able to develop the kind of intelligence that we as humans have they would have needed to develop vocal chords that can produce a variety of sounds.  Monkeys, dolphins, even dogs can learn words.  But they have no way to communicate in return.  Monkeys can learn sign language, but it is obviously much more difficult to communicate in this way.  If monkeys, and other animals had vocal chords that they could learn to use the same we learnt to form words as toddlers, I am sure they would be able to show us a lot more intelligence than we thought they had.

[Notree]

Cause GOD created us.

[The_Strict_Nein]

I think it is due to the last extinction event killing off Dinosaurs and leaving Mammels as the dominant family of animals.

Humans would be crap against dinosaurs. However, against other mammals? We have time to evolve and reach this state.

[Atmos]

Homosapienneadertal were cultural, most likely had the ability to speak, and use tools and create advanced shelters. Sooo, we aren't the only species to advanced above what is the normal, even here on earth. And those were only the most recent besides us, plenty of other tool using, shelter creating, social higher apes through history.

[Delusional Phil]

Well if we werent lucky, what were we?

 

A collection of Atoms  ...

 

It should be: Hello, my name is...

 

Pff... Fine... Happy now ?

 

Who says there hasn't been any intellectual life on the level of humans? The only problem is that it takes time for things to develop and evolve. And I bet if I put someone in a room with a dinosaur that the dinosaur is likely to eat them no matter their intelligence. So there's that.

 

The fact that they don't leave anything behind ... And the fact that we don't find large amounts of bones piled up together ( Like the traps primitive humans use to hunt horses ) 

Of course ... The Dinosaur woulnd't just ask : Hi , what is your name because it can't communicate with humans ... So ... Free Food ! 

 

For them to actually be able to develop the kind of intelligence that we as humans have they would have needed to develop vocal chords that can produce a variety of sounds.  Monkeys, dolphins, even dogs can learn words.  But they have no way to communicate in return.  Monkeys can learn sign language, but it is obviously much more difficult to communicate in this way.  If monkeys, and other animals had vocal chords that they could learn to use the same we learnt to form words as toddlers, I am sure they would be able to show us a lot more intelligence than we thought they had.

 

Whales can communicate through ultrasound ... So they can communicate ... Just not as smart as humans ... 

 

Cause GOD created us.

 

... That's for another day ... 

 

I think it is due to the last extinction event killing off Dinosaurs and leaving Mammels as the dominant family of animals.

Humans would be crap against dinosaurs. However, against other mammals? We have time to evolve and reach this state.

65 million years after that , we only appear about 2 million years ago , seperated from our common ancestor with apes ... We have become the dominant species of Earth ... We have completely changed from our wild ways ( From hunting and gathering to Farming , agriculture ... ) in 2 million years , that is astounding to me ... 

 

 

Homosapienneadertal were cultural, most likely had the ability to speak, and use tools and create advanced shelters. Sooo, we aren't the only species to advanced above what is the normal, even here on earth. And those were only the most recent besides us, plenty of other tool using, shelter creating, social higher apes through history.

Shelter building is essential .... every animal can do it ... Tool using ? I don't think Stick and Rock can be considered as tools ... They can break bones and fruits so that's why ape use it ... Social hierarchy has exist , but n ot as advance as us ... We are constantly adding new words to describe things ... 

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A collection of Atoms  ...

 

 

Pff... Fine... Happy now ?

 

 

The fact that they don't leave anything behind ... And the fact that we don't find large amounts of bones piled up together ( Like the traps primitive humans use to hunt horses ) 

Of course ... The Dinosaur woulnd't just ask : Hi , what is your name because it can't communicate with humans ... So ... Free Food ! 

 

 

Whales can communicate through ultrasound ... So they can communicate ... Just not as smart as humans ... 

 

 

... That's for another day ... 

 

65 million years after that , we only appear about 2 million years ago , seperated from our common ancestor with apes ... We have become the dominant species of Earth ... We have completely changed from our wild ways ( From hunting and gathering to Farming , agriculture ... ) in 2 million years , that is astounding to me ... 

 

 

Shelter building is essential .... every animal can do it ... Tool using ? I don't think Stick and Rock can be considered as tools ... They can break bones and fruits so that's why ape use it ... Social hierarchy has exist , but n ot as advance as us ... We are constantly adding new words to describe things ... 

 

Nope, you put a space before the question mark.

Should be: Pfft... fine... happy now?

[Notree]

 

 

... That's for another day ... 

 

 

Come on take the bait    B)

[Atmos]

 

 

 

Shelter building is essential .... every animal can do it ... Tool using ? I don't think Stick and Rock can be considered as tools ... They can break bones and fruits so that's why ape use it ... Social hierarchy has exist , but n ot as advance as us ... We are constantly adding new words to describe things ... 

 

I doubt you would be able to make hand axes out of stone and stick with the precision some of the neandertals could. Or create a shelter from a cave by draping an animal hide across the opening to stop the air from blowing in, an animal that you herd into a canyon and pelt with stones, and then tackle upclose with a spear, which you also had to make by hand. Or create clothes from scratch hide and fiber. Neandertal was advanced mate, probably the 2nd most advanced in known archaeological history. They also had the ability to speak, and had complex bonds within family and group, one instance even being an older male who had his teeth knocked out years and years before his death, who had food chewn for him by others in the group, so that he could keep eating and live for years after what to any other animal would be a death sentence.

 

that's not just making up new words for the same thing, that's far more advanced techniques and even freaking culture. They painted, they made trinkets, they made complex items which appear to have served no use other than emotional.

[Aphexx]

brains are an expensive endeavor I don't have the numbers at hand but a lot of calories are used to maintain this brain. and to grow this brain. a lot of animals are mostly functional weeks after being birthed....

weeks after being birthed a human does..... uhhh...  just manages to poop itself  and how long is it till a baby is functionally independent? 10-15 years?

so it takes a decade till a new human is somewhat independent. all this is not really a great evolutionary gambit. growing a big brain was a pretty risky thing IMO

[AlwaysFSX]

The fact that they don't leave anything behind ... And the fact that we don't find large amounts of bones piled up together ( Like the traps primitive humans use to hunt horses ) 

Of course ... The Dinosaur woulnd't just ask : Hi , what is your name because it can't communicate with humans ... So ... Free Food !

You do know the process of weathering and erosion, right? Plus not all bones get fossilized or left behind, they break apart after time and abuse. There's not all that many bones of animals around from the past.

[Delusional Phil]

Come on take the bait    B)

 

Eh ... I don't feel like it ... Maybe some other time ... 

 

I doubt you would be able to make hand axes out of stone and stick with the precision some of the neandertals could. Or create a shelter from a cave by draping an animal hide across the opening to stop the air from blowing in, an animal that you herd into a canyon and pelt with stones, and then tackle upclose with a spear, which you also had to make by hand. Or create clothes from scratch hide and fiber. Neandertal was advanced mate, probably the 2nd most advanced in known archaeological history. They also had the ability to speak, and had complex bonds within family and group, one instance even being an older male who had his teeth knocked out years and years before his death, who had food chewn for him by others in the group, so that he could keep eating and live for years after what to any other animal would be a death sentence.

 

that's not just making up new words for the same thing, that's far more advanced techniques and even freaking culture. They painted, they made trinkets, they made complex items which appear to have served no use other than emotional.

 

I was talking about stick and rock individually but yes , I can't make and survive like Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals did ... 

 

I'm actually surprise by that story ... Also , Neanderthals didn't disappear I believe ... At least 2% of the world's population has Neanderthal's gene ( Or so I remember ) . 

 

brains are an expensive endeavor I don't have the numbers at hand but a lot of calories are used to maintain this brain. and to grow this brain. a lot of animals are mostly functional weeks after being birthed....

weeks after being birthed a human does..... uhhh...  just manages to poop itself  and how long is it till a baby is functionally independent? 10-15 years?

so it takes a decade till a new human is somewhat independent. all this is not really a great evolutionary gambit. growing a big brain was a pretty risky thing IMO

 

I think it takes 20% of your daily energy to function ... 

 

What you say is true , raising habit contributed to the animal's path of developement ... Maybe that's why the dinosaur's can't be intellectually clever , because their rains was already pre-programed ... 

 

It is a gamble but there are no major predators so I think we won the gamble ... 

 

You do know the process of weathering and erosion, right? Plus not all bones get fossilized or left behind, they break apart after time and abuse. There's not all that many bones of animals around from the past.

Yeah ... I wondered how crowded was Pangea ... 

[Trik'Stari]

I think it's because our ancestors were social creatures, as well as successful omnivores.

[Atmos]

 

I was talking about stick and rock individually but yes , I can't make and survive like Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals did ... 

 

I'm actually surprise by that story ... Also , Neanderthals didn't disappear I believe ... At least 2% of the world's population has Neanderthal's gene ( Or so I remember ) . 

 

 

 

Yea, i eluded to that in my first post. That's the prevailing theory is that they interbred with the immigrating Homosapiensapien population. that wording there, is a large reason being used by more and more scientists, "Homosapiensapien" and "Homosapienneandertalensis" when originally it was just Homosapien and Homoneandertalensis, because the two species where close enough that they had viable offspring, which has spurred a large amount of the anthropological community to begin pushing for the change to Homosapiensapien and homosapienneadertalensis, because we were basically just subspecies of the homosapien branch. 

 

The other theory which was more popular in the pre-archeological boom was that Neadertals were killed out by invading homosapiens. This one has since fallen out of style so to speak.

[Delusional Phil]

I think it's because our ancestors were social creatures, as well as successful omnivores.

 

We actually evolved into becoming omnivores in a short time span ... That's bloody amazing ... 

 

Yea, i eluded to that in my first post. That's the prevailing theory is that they interbred with the immigrating Homosapiensapien population. that wording there, is a large reason being used by more and more scientists, "Homosapiensapien" and "Homosapienneandertalensis" when originally it was just Homosapien and Homoneandertalensis, because the two species where close enough that they had viable offspring, which has spurred a large amount of the anthropological community to begin pushing for the change to Homosapiensapien and homosapienneadertalensis, because we were basically just subspecies of the homosapien branch. 

 

The other theory which was more popular in the pre-archeological boom was that Neadertals were killed out by invading homosapiens. This one has since fallen out of style so to speak.

 

 

Imagine how I would felt if I have to write homosapiensapiens and homosapienneandetalensis and not screw up ...