Apple no longer inovative, just a phone company

[Artificial Ignorance]

So I was watching one of my favorite youtuber's today and he made the comment that Apple is no longer invoative. He said that everythign they annouced at WWDC was actually just copying over things that other companies did years ago. Obviously the biggest thing being copying Spotify. You can watch it here.

 

Now this is a problem becuase it means that Spotify has had to gear up to potentially face down Apple. 

TeliaSonera purchased a 1.4% share in Spotify with the $115 million, and the company says it will collaborate with Spotify on media distribution, customer insights, advertising, and analytics projects among other things.

Above article can be found here.

 

But perhaps the biggest thing for me is the thought from Julia Greenburg over at WIRED that Apple doesn't really care about music streaming. It is just trying to make a bigger market for the iPhone.

Mulligan points out that Apple is a high-margin business, while music isn’t. Whatever revenue any music business generates will look paltry compared to what Apple banks. In fact, according to one analyst, even if Apple Music signs up as many paid subscribers as, say, Spotify, that blazing success by almost any other measure would bump up Apple revenues by only one percent in 2016.

 

So, what’s really going on here? Apple wants to sell its hardware—and it wants to give hardware buyers another reason to choose Apple. Google, too, has gotten into music with Play Music and YouTube Music Key. Even Amazon has broken into the music business with Amazon Prime Music. For these giants, music isn’t a way to make money directly. Instead, it’s a reason for users to watch ads on YouTube, pay for Prime, or buy an iPhone—in other words, to support the core businesses of each of these companies.

Above article found here.

 

So I guess I want to know what you think. Is Apple loosing its edge and just copying things? Do they even care about music streaming? Is this really just a way to get more users for the thing they 'really' inovate, the iPhone?

[Arty]

im testing ios 9 and i see a some andriod features.

sure they copy ideas

but it is how they implement them that makes it different.

still prefer andriod beacse customizablity but ios is made for simple people

[Tagiau]

We are at the point where until something ground breaking happens, everything is copying something.

[Artificial Ignorance]

Arty watch the youtube video (its only about a minute) he talks about how all the new features are taken from stuff that has been around since 2011.

[Agazed]

Apple was never innovative...

[bcredeur97]

im testing ios 9 and i see a some andriod features.

sure they copy ideas

but it is how they implemant them that makes it differnet.

(off-topic a bit) question about apple music. 

 

Can you still sync music to your phone? Or are you forced to use apple music? Im worried about audio quality... I want to be able to still put my own music files on my phone.

[Arty]

(off-topic a bit) question about apple music. 

 

Can you still sync music to your phone? Or are you forced to use apple music? Im worried about audio quality... I want to be able to still put my own music files on my phone.

i use google play music

pretty much every app i can swap with googles i have.

but yea you can use own music....for now. I doubt they will force it.

[AnnoyedShelf]

So I was watching one of my favorite youtuber's today and he made the comment that Apple is no longer invoative. He said that everythign they annouced at WWDC was actually just copying over things that other companies did years ago. Obviously the biggest thing being copying Spotify. You can watch that here. (Thanks to Philly-D).

 

Now this is a problem becuase it means that Spotify has had to gear up to potentially face down Apple. 

Above article can be found here.

 

But perhaps the biggest thing for me is the thought from Julia Greenburg over at WIRED that Apple doesn't really care about music streaming. It is just trying to make a bigger market for the iPhone.

Above article found here.

 

So I guess I want to know what you think. Is Apple loosing its edge and just copying things? Do they even care about music streaming? Is this really just a way to get more users for the thing they 'really' inovate, the iPhone?

This YouTuber didn't happen to be Matthew Moore did it?

[Inventrious]

So I was watching one of my favorite youtuber's today and he made the comment that Apple is no longer invoative. He said that everythign they annouced at WWDC was actually just copying over things that other companies did years ago. Obviously the biggest thing being copying Spotify. You can watch that here. (Thanks to Philly-D).

 

Now this is a problem becuase it means that Spotify has had to gear up to potentially face down Apple. 

Above article can be found here.

 

But perhaps the biggest thing for me is the thought from Julia Greenburg over at WIRED that Apple doesn't really care about music streaming. It is just trying to make a bigger market for the iPhone.

Above article found here.

 

So I guess I want to know what you think. Is Apple loosing its edge and just copying things? Do they even care about music streaming? Is this really just a way to get more users for the thing they 'really' inovate, the iPhone?

You must've missed when everyone else was copying Apple? 

[Guest Kloaked]

I think people confuse what the word innovative means.

 

Apple is very much innovative, just like Asus and Dell. They take ideas and they make them their own: each company does things a different way and one of them arguably does it the best *hint hint it's Apple*.

[Opcode]

Apple was never innovative...

Pretty much, all they do was throw their pockets around buying up patents/tech and claiming them as their own innovations.

[Victorious Secret]

LOL.

 

When Android M was revealed, people said Google was just taking what iOS already had. Now that iOS 9 is out, people are saying Apple is just copying Android. 

 

I don't understand what people expect from companies these days. 

 

Plus, Apple has a stronger arm to leverage for Music than Spotify or Pandora ever will. That is their advantage. Spotify can't hope to negotiate with artists on the same level that Apple can. Apple will have more songs, artists will go away from Spotify if Spotify won't match what Apple pays. 

[Artificial Ignorance]

You must've missed when everyone else was copying Apple? 

You talking about back in the 70s when Apple stole the GUI interface from Xerox?

[sirtoby]

Apple was never very innovative. They just took stuff that was around and made it work brilliantly. TekSyndicate did an excellent video on that topic.

 

[Artificial Ignorance]

This YouTuber didn't happen to be Matthew Moore did it?

Phillip DeFranco

[Fred Castellum]

I'll tell ya what Apples good at.

 

Their good at taking a bunch of ideas and combining them into one product, coming up original ideas however is different matter. Apple polishes what exists by taking existing ideas and trying to implement them all into a single product, they rarely if ever come up with completely original ideas. 

[RH00D]

Every company copies from something. Every person has also copied from something. Every thing in existence was derived from something else. Literally. Everything. Ever. Made.

 

No human being or company has ever come up with anything that is 100% original.

[AnnoyedShelf]

Phillip DeFranco

ah.  Matthew Moore did an extremely in depth show about it.  That's why I was wondering.

[njmyers3]

I hate how Apple copies Google all the time Android FTW!

[TheKDub]

Psh, apple hasn't innovated in the past few years, they have only stolen ideas, changed them slightly, renamed them, and claimed it was an entire new idea.

[Firearm2112]

"FIRST PORN IN SPACE"

 

moving on

[Agent181]

snip

lemme guess phil?

[Agent181]

Psh, apple hasn't innovated in the past few years, they have only stolen ideas, changed them slightly, renamed them, and claimed it was an entire new idea.

cough cough "thermaltake" cough cough 

[TheKDub]

cough cough "thermaltake" cough cough 

 

lol its even in the name, all they do is (thermal) take

[Hunter259]

While Apple rarely makes something new, they generally take what is there and polish it to perfection. Its what keeps me in the eco system. Runs great, looks great. iOS 9 has some great copying that is working great so far (Albeit shitty battery life is kiling me.)