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Please please please please please stop making videos about clevo laptops without explaining to viewers what clevos are and how the rebranding works. That is all. 

Sager is a lot better than fucking venom, so there's nothing wrong with the video at all. Just explain what clevo is to viewers, and how to avoid scams like venom 

 

Just to be clear to everyone, sager is a good clevo rebrand, and most sager websites, like xotic pc or LPC digital, specifically mention the clevo base models, and have fair pricing. 

 

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this is about the most recent vessel video 

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Clevo? Just watched the review and now I am even more confused :P 

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what's wrong with the venom? :huh: actually, what are you talking about in general?

that laptop was a clevo rebrand plus 700$. Scam really, and lairs. 

Hi Jake

We are a Clevo as much as Apple is a Foxconn book

The supply chain is very complex, I think Linus clearly points out where we are different,

The end result is quite obvious when used, we simply perform a lot better for multiple reasons.

Every notebook uses the same Intel processors, HDMI ports, etc. The differences are very subtle across all notebook computers regardless of brand.

There are main differences, for example. The Skoda Fabia, Volkswagen Polo and Audi A1 are all the same chassis, yet very different car.

Having some common components or design elements do not make you the same. Even the Venom pain finish is different for example as certain paints have different thermal properties.

We stand by our product and the way our product runs, this  is simply the best proof where we are different, we aim for performance only and we are most definitely not the cheapest nor will we ever be.

Our products are designed to be fast, quiet, cool and reliable above all. This means for a 1% increase in performance sometimes a key component may cost 20% more. Most components and transistors we use are different.

It’s these minor differences that make our product different, it can be seen in the final end product. There are endless Frankenstein PC's and notebooks with lots of parts that do not have the right tolerances to create a singular homogenous performance PC (words from our chief designer) When you need high performance, each part is tightly regimented and this means there is little slack, which translates to defined high performance for consistent delivery.

For example our BlackBook 15, sits at 70 degrees Celsius no matter how hard and long you push it for, this is what counts how this translates into performance for the end user.

We realise that the Venom BlackBook is not for everyone, it's for our customers who require the best.

It's a clevo laptop with a clevo motherboard. They use a different screen panel that's lower res than an option that is 700$ cheaper, and apply different thermal compound.

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It is a new video on vessel that has mobile G sync but it is called sager so what is clevo

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Clevo? Just watched the review and now I am even more confused :P

 

 

what's wrong with the venom? :huh: actually, what are you talking about in general?

 

 

Clevo? Whut.

 

Context people, context me.

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See? This is what pisses me off. 

You need to give viewers some explanation. 

Origin PC- clevo rebfrand,

Venom- clevo rabrand

Sager-Clevo

Eurocom-Clevo

Even alienware started as clevo 

 

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iBuypower, a lot of those

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This is kinda off topic of this post but i really wish there would be at least 1 company who lets you build a laptop from the bottom up. as an example you could Pentium with a 980m if you so please. i think it would be a really good idea. 

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This is kinda off topic of this post but i really wish there would be at least 1 company who lets you build a laptop from the bottom up. as an example you could Pentium with a 980m if you so please. i think it would be a really good idea. 

Not that possible, BUT there are many clevo based options out there, and depending on what you want, you can get about anything. 

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what's wrong with the venom? :huh: actually, what are you talking about in general?

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Not that possible, BUT there are many clevo based options out there, and depending on what you want, you can get about anything. 

just do like me. get a gs70

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Not that possible, BUT there are many clevo based options out there, and depending on what you want, you can get about anything. 

i understand its not very easy but i just wish there was, people could build withen there budget

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This is why I don't like the two platforms. It would be fine if the release schedule was the same. But its really confusing when Someone goes on a rant and I have no idea what's going on.

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that laptop was a clevo rebrand plus 700$. Scam really, and lairs. 

 

Why and why? Are they doing this without clevo's permission? The final product may or may not be good value, but that's another story... I don't see anyone accusing apple of being scammers and liars for pricing their laptops 1000$ more than they are worth.

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This is why I don't like the two platforms. It would be fine if the release schedule was the same. But its really confusing when Someone goes on a rant and I have no idea what's going on.

He covers the sager NP9773 (think he typoed with MP9773) witch is a Clevo P770ZM. But sager is probably the first honest clevo rebrand he's covered. That venom laptop was a Clevo P650SE and nothing more or less and that pissed me the fuck off when you can get the same fucking thing with a better cpu, 4k screen, and some other extras for 700$ less. And one look at the company's' community outreach is enough to notice that flat out lie about it, saying they make their own components. As is lol 

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Why and why? Are they doing this without clevo's permission? The final product may or may not be good value, but that's another story... I don't see anyone accusing apple of being scammers and liars for pricing their laptops 1000$ more than they are worth.

not about clevo's permission, clevo rebrands are A-OK and very common, hard to get a strait non rebranded clevo laptop, venom is a scam. 

this is why linus needs to explain this 

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This is kinda off topic of this post but i really wish there would be at least 1 company who lets you build a laptop from the bottom up. as an example you could Pentium with a 980m if you so please. i think it would be a really good idea. 

 

You can, I can do it on specialist website, get a £2000 laptop and change the CPU to a pentium, 2gb of ram and a 970m no hard drive no OS etc

 

not about clevo's permission, clevo rebrands are A-OK and very common, hard to get a strait non rebranded clevo laptop, venom is a scam. 

this is why linus needs to explain this 

 

Kind of agree with you here, sure the venom is not 100% stock clevo, but the price premium is 100% not worth it, over other clevo based companies

 

EVEN if that wasnt the case, Linus should still explain that its a Clevo based machine, and how that system operates 

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See? This is what pisses me off. 

You need to give viewers some explanation. 

Origin PC- clevo rebfrand,

Venom- clevo rabrand

Sager-Clevo

Eurocom-Clevo

Even alienware started as clevo 

I think you are over reacting, so many products are rebrands. Heck most PSUs are complete rebrands.

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See? This is what pisses me off. 

You need to give viewers some explanation. 

Origin PC- clevo rebfrand,

Venom- clevo rabrand

Sager-Clevo

Eurocom-Clevo

Even alienware started as clevo 

I don't even know what video you're talking about.

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I think you are over reacting, so many products are rebrands. Heck most PSUs are complete rebrands.

He literally said origin PC was like the first to get desktop cpus in a laptop, even though they were just showing off a clevo rebrand, and clevos have had desktop options for years. Clevo laptops work differently the psu rebrands for example. The venom video was unacceptable, and this was a missed opportunity to teach people about clevo laptops, that way viewers know to look for a rebrand they want and a seller they like instead of paying 700$ more for less. Some of the resellers don't even handle the laptops unless special options are ordered. This needs to be explained. 

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