The Revival of AMD?

[Warren Pnigel]

Even if amd did go under, nvidia would still make better products, otherwise no one would buy a new graphics card. 

[Imabigmac]

Yes they are spending more but do you see them using all the tech they have in the lastest generation of CPU's, nope because they are just putting aces into their sleeve to make sure they can cover there ass when they need too.

We won't see that money comeback into consumer PC segment for sometime. Intel is trying to focus on the mobile side of things than desktop. Why because desktop isn't the future which and its not a direct result of non competition. 

 

yes they have their ace's, but they will release the ace's slowly anyway in order to keep up their scheduled updates. There is no need anyway to release the ace's. They are currently profitable control large parts of various silicon markets and will continue to make faster, smaller , more power efficient chips so they can keep up in the other markets and that will trickle down to us PC people.  What need do we presently have for a 36 core gaming pc. 

 

I'm not farther my opinion, you clearly know it I know yours and there is no changing that. 

[Sam Z Man]

What need do we presently have for a 36 core gaming pc.

For thoes super sexy cinebench runs.

[Guest trucker2]

The console market will be their coregidor. Or they can go the way of cyrix. More importantly Intel owns the OEMS, the tech media and the forums.

Why was this guy who lives in the tech world shocked and surprised?

Also if AMD goes under PC gaming goes with it

75% of amd's chip sales are APU's.

Look what happens when someone says you save some money with an AMD MB .

With AMD I am building a 720 p gaming rig for 190 bucks, already built one for 260 and have plans for a 350 rig. Everyone of them is competitive with consoles

There are some great people here but many pc gamers are their own worst enemy.

[Zackfoo]

Am I the only one praying that AMD releases some truly competitive products this year? Seriously.... I have nothing against Intel or Nvidia but I am honestly scared of what is going to happen if AMD continues to fall behind. They really need to step up their game, pull out all the stops, and lay a smack down on their competitors. As Linus said in the Wan Show on Friday Intel has already caught up to and about to surpassed AMD in the APUs market, lets not even talk about the CPU Market, and No One knows whats gonna happen with the GPU market but I can definitely say AMD has got their work cut out for them with everything Nvidia has released so far this year.  The point is we as a Tech community NEED a strong AMD otherwise what reason does anyone have to innovate or make new and cooler products? We have already started to seeing some of the downsides of having such a weak AMD. 

 

Things I really really want to see from AMD this year: Truly competitive CPUs, GPUs and APUs, New sockets and Motherboards, Better efficiency, Hyper treading, better free sync and crossfire.   

 

Is anyone else as terrified about this as I am? What are your thoughts and opinions? What would you like to see from AMD? 

probably because they trying to be the jack of all trades, trying to beat both intel and nvidia which they are very concentrate on what they doing not like amd trying cpu apu and gpu market all together. But without them we won't have a slightly budget option, maybe they should target lower end user creating the best bang for the buck stuff rather than trying to triump at both low end mid end and high end category, just my opinion. 

[Husky]

I would really like to see AMD magically come out on top of Intel and nVidia for a change. They should try to make a quad-core CPU that can compete with Intel.

[Bouzoo]

My worst nightmare is a nivida GPU or Intel CPU monopoly.

Wait they don't have it yet? /jk

 

But if it ever comes to that that AMD is history and they have no competition, there are regulations that would make them either split in 2 companies or share their tech with other companies like samsung, qualcomm or god knows who or something like that.

[KemoKa]

Wait they don't have it yet? /jk

 

But if it ever comes to that that AMD is history and they have no competition, there are regulations that would make them either split in 2 companies or share their tech with other companies like samsung, qualcomm or god knows who or something like that.

There's no worry in terms of competition. There are so many massive companies that would all be vying for the x86_64 instruction set. It's gonna come down to an all-out war between Nvidia and Qualcomm, probably, seeing how massive Qualcomm has become lately. I'd love to see someone else take up the helm, seeing as AMD has yet to show whether they've spent the last 3 years sitting on their asses or working on Athlon X2 2.0

[Bouzoo]

There's no worry in terms of competition. There are so many massive companies that would all be vying for the x86_64 instruction set. It's gonna come down to an all-out war between Nvidia and Qualcomm, probably, seeing how massive Qualcomm has become lately. I'd love to see someone else take up the helm, seeing as AMD has yet to show whether they've spent the last 3 years sitting on their asses or working on Athlon X2 2.0

Well Samsung is also in the game, who knows.

[Nena Trinity]

It wouldn't be that bad. 

Prices go up and they may not even be allowed to sell their stuff cause monopoly is forbidden by law.

[Ryoutarou97]

A bit early, but I think it might happen in 2016. Zen is said to have 40% IPC improvements which would put it somewhere ~= Haswell, I think. With Broadwell and Skylake being much smaller IPC upgrades it should really close the gap between AMD and intel in terms of CPUs. Next up, the 400 series. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's going to be made on 14nm. Pascal is 16nm, I'm pretty sure so it should be some pretty strong competition there. Finally, moving to 14nm means they can cram more in the same die space. Say, as an iGPU on an APU? Finally shrinking the process should be able to shove Broadwell (and hopefully Skylake since it's a 'tick' meaning that they can't cram too much more than the previous 'tock' which happened like a week ago in there) to the side.

[Dabombinable]

And yet people still buy them, a stupid number of people buy them and yet we generally don't complain. So essentially it that example we already live in a non AMD world and for the most part it doesn't affect us. 

 

Im just saying chances if AMD were to disappear from the earth it wouldn't be the doomsday people think it will be. 

Intel and AMD could end up losing quite a lot of money if AMD goes-so its definitely not all doom and gloom-as long as Ati comes back as a separate entity not tied to a company that's completely screwed up both of its product lines.

[Guest]

why do u guys love nvidia, intel, amd? In the end, they are all companies and all they care about is money, regardless of your support.

 

Edit: well yea I care about their survival (b cuz whos gunn make gpus).   

[Dabombinable]

why do u guys love nvidia, intel, amd? In the end, they are all companies and all they care about is money, regardless of your support.

Its not the company but the products (I've seen most of the shit all 3 companies have pulled-so its all meh when it comes to who's 'better') that are loved.

Eg. I love me AMD 386DX 40, Ti 486DX 4 100, AMD K6-2 500, Intel Celeron 300A, Nvidi Riva TNT2, Intel i5 4440, Nvidia GTX 970 and GTX 650 TI OC.

[Mightyinvader]

Revival is the wrong word, AMD isn't dead.

[Captain_Slow]

Am I the only one praying that AMD releases some truly competitive products this year? Seriously.... I have nothing against Intel or Nvidia but I am honestly scared of what is going to happen if AMD continues to fall behind. They really need to step up their game, pull out all the stops, and lay a smack down on their competitors. As Linus said in the Wan Show on Friday Intel has already caught up to and about to surpassed AMD in the APUs market, lets not even talk about the CPU Market, and No One knows whats gonna happen with the GPU market but I can definitely say AMD has got their work cut out for them with everything Nvidia has released so far this year.  The point is we as a Tech community NEED a strong AMD otherwise what reason does anyone have to innovate or make new and cooler products? We have already started to seeing some of the downsides of having such a weak AMD. 

 

Things I really really want to see from AMD this year: Truly competitive CPUs, GPUs and APUs, New sockets and Motherboards, Better efficiency, Hyper treading, better free sync and crossfire.   

 

Is anyone else as terrified about this as I am? What are your thoughts and opinions? What would you like to see from AMD? 

 

 

I really want AMD to be back in the game as well. Back in the Phenom days Intel was making performance leaps of 25% plus each generation, now that Intel sees no competition we get less than 10%.

 

AMD is doing better on the GPU front but I still would like to see more competition to push price down and fuel innovation. 

 

I'm glad AMD is getting the contracts for Xbox/PS4, and the new Apple stuff. Hopefully they will earn some money and spend it on R&D. 

[thekeemo]

Also am I the only person being for a better stock cooler? Seriously if the 300 series is just going to be a supped up rebrand atleast give it a better cooler both in looks and performance.

well the new one is 100% watercooled as a stock cooler... 

[faziten]

I think we are expecting maybe too much from AMD.

They are tech developers not tech producers.

In CPU matters: Intel develop and produce their own product, AMD not.

In GPUmatters: Nvidia develop and produce their own product, AMD not.

In Mobile matters: Samsung develop and produce their own product AMD do produce some of their chips yet not all. 

 

In this scenario they can't be on top all the time while earning money.  Let's face it AMD has already done beautiful things maintaining their product affordable (relatively speaking) and competitive performance wise. Hard to keep up in this conditions. 

[Dabombinable]

I think we are expecting maybe too much from AMD.

They are tech developers not tech producers.

In CPU matters: Intel develop and produce their own product, AMD not.

In GPUmatters: Nvidia develop and produce their own product, AMD not.

In Mobile matters: Samsung develop and produce their own product AMD do produce some of their chips yet not all. 

 

In this scenario they can't be on top all the time while earning money.  Let's face it AMD has already done beautiful things maintaining their product affordable (relatively speaking) and competitive performance wise. Hard to keep up in this conditions. 

TBH, AMD is lucky to have gotten as far as they have, considering their first CPU's were based of designs licensed from Intel.

[Nosmada09]

Ok so I've been reading up as much as I find and I can honestly say I'm freaking excited for what AMD is bringing to the market. The new 300 series [while re-brands] will still have be competitive and for there price point see: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-confirmed-aggressive/is going to really hurt Nvidia. And then Fury is coming as well and i have a strong theory that the Fury GPUs will be priced closer to the 980ti than the titian even though they are direct competitors I feel AMD will take this chance to give Nvidia a swift kick below the belt. see: http://wccftech.com/upcoming-amd-radeon-flagship-called-fury/ .  And then the Zen CPUs are looking quite competitive from the info I have found, bringing some really cool features to the game. see: http://wccftech.com/amd-officially-reveals-2016-cpu-roadmap-zen-k12/

[FaZe Booce]

Nvidia is shitting graphics cards like there is no tomorrow. AMD's last graphics card release was over a year ago.

[Dabombinable]

Ok so I've been reading up as much as I find and I can honestly say I'm freaking excited for what AMD is bringing to the market. The new 300 series [while re-brands] will still have be competitive and for there price point see: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-confirmed-aggressive/is going to really hurt Nvidia. And then Fury is coming as well and i have a strong theory that the Fury GPUs will be priced closer to the 980ti than the titian even though they are direct competitors I feel AMD will take this chance to give Nvidia a swift kick below the belt. see: http://wccftech.com/upcoming-amd-radeon-flagship-called-fury/ .  And then the Zen CPUs are looking quite competitive from the info I have found, bringing some really cool features to the game. see: http://wccftech.com/amd-officially-reveals-2016-cpu-roadmap-zen-k12/

Their current GPU's will be re-branded as more expensive 'newer' ones. I don't see what there is to be exited about when only the Fury will be a new card.

[Nosmada09]

Their current GPU's will be re-branded as more expensive 'newer' ones. I don't see what there is to be exited about when only the Fury will be a new card.

Follow the link and check it out. Yes they are in a way being rebranded but at the same time they are getting supped up, better clocks, unlocked, and better faster, and more Vram and the prices are all going to be very affordable and much better performance to dollar than any of the nvidia cards. They should also be running new and better drivers. 

[Sam Z Man]

Nvidia is shitting graphics cards like there is no tomorrow. AMD's last graphics card release was over a year ago.

There last GPU release was 9 months ago and they are releasing another in only a few days.

[Sam Z Man]

Their current GPU's will be re-branded as more expensive 'newer' ones. I don't see what there is to be exited about when only the Fury will be a new card.

Do you not see the fully unlocked Tonga in the lineup that card is going to be dope, and that is the count to two new GPU's.

That's the same number nivida released at the launch of the 900 series.