Foling 24/7 at 60celcius cause harm?

[Zackfoo]

question at topic no idea what to write here. Thx?

[Dzzope]

Nope.. 60c is perfectly safe temp.

[Godlygamer23]

60C is a good temperature.

[samcool55]

That's just fine.

Any idea how hot the vrm is getting?

[toggleguy]

60 degrees is 100% safe 99.9% of the time

[TheWildOnesEU]

24/7 is really good! Keep it up man

[Zackfoo]

That's just fine.

Any idea how hot the vrm is getting?

just realise i totally forgets about vram haha. it is 69 tho. that number...

but is it okay? or it is a bit high?

[Zackfoo]

24/7 is really good! Keep it up man

will do! starting only now because just finally done with everything with my build hope it is not too late.

[samcool55]

just realise i totally forgets about vram haha. it is 69 tho. that number...

but is it okay? or it is a bit high?

69 is very good!

As long as it's under 90°C it's all good.

[Godlygamer23]

just realise i totally forgets about vram haha. it is 69 tho. that number...

but is it okay? or it is a bit high?

VRM and VRAM are not the same thing.

[Zackfoo]

VRM and VRAM are not the same thing.

rili? i didnt know that, still quite new to anything pc related i would say. What is the difference?

[Zackfoo]

69 is very good!

As long as it's under 90°C it's all good.

so asus stric cooler is not as bad as they say comparing to g1 then. Thx! all this replies makes me feel more comfortable folding as looking at 100% usage all the time make me worries a bit. Btw, why my gpu is not running 100% it is always 95 to 97 but cpu is always 100.

[Darkman]

It is fine... My 650ti hits 70C but generally is at around 68-69C.

[Godlygamer23]

rili? i didnt know that, still quite new to anything pc related i would say. What is the difference?

VRM(Voltage Regulation Module) is the power delivery hardware found on various pieces of hardware including graphics cards and motherboards. It consists of capacitors, transistors, and chokes. Its task is to convert the voltages down to a level that is usable by the hardware on the PCB. VRAM(Video Random Access Memory) are the memory chips on the graphics card that stores content like pixel information and textures.

 

This is what the power delivery looks like on my dead 660 Ti.(notice the blown capacitor below the transistor)

 

Here are the memory chips found on the same card. They are surrounding the GPU located in the center.

[monaka25]

This kind of scares me too. Except most of the time it is near 70C for me.

[flibberdipper]

Perfectly fine.

[Zackfoo]

VRM(Voltage Regulation Module) is the power delivery hardware found on various pieces of hardware including graphics cards and motherboards. It consists of capacitors, transistors, and chokes. Its task is to convert the voltages down to a level that is usable by the hardware on the PCB. VRAM(Video Random Access Memory) are the memory chips on the graphics card that stores content like pixel information and textures.

 

This is what the power delivery looks like on my dead 660 Ti.(notice the blown capacitor below the transistor)

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Here are the memory chips found on the same card. They are surrounding the GPU located in the center.

IMAG0031.jpg

ohhh... now i get it, it is literally way different thing haha. Thx m8.

[TheJaseku]

I am not sure. I let my i7 5820k and GTX960 Windforce 4GB calculate 24/7 at around 72 Celsius (BOINC, yep I am in the LinusTechTips Team : ). And I found this post in an other forum:

 

//

As far as I know (if someone has precise data, please report), there are no serious statistics data about modern microchips lifetime estimations as a function of its running temperature.
I know of two reasons for this:

1. When we could know data about lifetime estimation of a microchip technology, this is, after years from manufacturing, that technology is... obsolete.
2. Only microchips corporations could be interested in researching to obtain such precise info about their products (or the competitors ones). And they are not willing to share it; even if they do, I wouldn't believe them very much.

So, I believe that end-users only have the (often intuitive-only) knowledge of experienced IT specialists.
This is the mine:

• Microcircuitry engineering is something like cooking: it involves a lot of probabilistcs and will often have rather random results. So, you don't know how good a microchip is until you have fabricated it. Even then, deterioration will have too a bit of probabilistic behavior.
• 40ºC (104ºF) or below is heaven for every microchip.
• 50ºC (122ºF) is a not bad temperature for any microchip.
• Microchips starts getting damaged on its lifetime at 60ºC (140ºF).
• A chip running at 70ºC (158ºF) during 24 hours and 7 days a week, will probably last 2-6 years.
• A chip running at 80ºC (176ºF) during 24 hours and 7 days a week, will probably last 1-3 years.
• A chip running at 90ºC (194ºF) during 24 hours and 7 days a week, will probably last 6-20 months.
• In this matter there is no difference between main computer chips like GPU, CPU, Northbridge, Southbridge... etc.
• Given a temperature, it is harder for the chip to maintain it at high processor usage than at low processor usage. For example: a CPU that achieves 70ºC (158ºF) during 10 hours on nearly-inactive Windows desktop suffers less than a(nother) CPU that achieves 70ºC (158ºF) during 10 hours of intensive CPU processing (i.e: SuperPI). Some hardware engineers report this could be due to that in the second case the CPU uses most of the microcircuitry, and in the first case only a small part of it.
• The general rule: microcircuitry is like an ellectrical printed circuit board that has the tracks very close between them (there are often only 4-5 molecules between two tracks), so heating is slowly melting the tracks as time goes by. Keep things as cold as possible.
• The general rule when reading the manufacturer's data: they want for you not to care about refrigerating anything, because then it will get broken just after the warranty period (sometimes only a few weeks after it; it is incredible, I know). "It is just bussiness", Alcapone dixit.
• Preventing is important (better than waiting for failures to repair): when things start to fail, it could be due to tracks melting in the microcircuitry, or due to minor tracks dilatations. The second case is a temporal problem. The first one is probably a definitive one.

//

 

So that´s a pretty "good?" post. Do you all agree? I would like to have my hardware for at least 5 years... for 100% ...  I could reverse my overclock from 3.8GHz back to 3.4 for safety. Or am I wrong in this all and should have no fear with these temps? (~72 Celsius 24/7). Or I could let my overclock stay and let BOINC work at 80%. But this means that it pauses it´s work for 2 seconds out of 10. And I can´t imagine that this is also good for a CPU 24/7, these slight drops in temperature would do harm over a long time. Or not? See I am new to this all but very interested, has anybody a real idea about this all?

[Darkman]

This kind of scares me too. Except most of the time it is near 70C for me.

That is fine as well... 80C and higher is when you really need to worry. I try not to see over 72C and my 650ti sits at 70C 24/7 during it.

[Zackfoo]

@TheJaseku that is a very informative post which make me wanna keep everything under 50C from now on. maybe loading it with less like a medium load. 5 years should be able to achieve i guess and you won't be actually really running 24/7 right.

[Sauron]

CPU or GPU?

 

(in both cases you're perfectly fine, but in the future be more specific. 85c for example are fine on the gpu but not necessarily on the cpu)

[TheJaseku]

CPU or GPU?

 

(in both cases you're perfectly fine, but in the future be more specific. 85c for example are fine on the gpu but not necessarily on the cpu)

CPU 70-74 Celsius /  GPU 69-72 Celsius  -> after 8 hours & 100% BOINC (CPU and GPU)

I really really don´t want a broken PC in 2-3 years because of 24/7. But when you guys say it´s fine, then it should be that way : )

[Sauron]

CPU 70-74 /  GPU 69-72     after 8 hours & 100% BOINC (CPU and GPU)

I really really don´t want a broken PC in 2-3 years.

 

it's just fine. temperatures you need to watch out for are over 80.

[TheJaseku]

it's just fine. temperatures you need to watch out for are over 80.

Ok B)   Thanks a lot