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i thought silicon lottery apply only when overclocking isnt it? i got a 4690k and it doesnt oc above 4.2ghz... thats what i call silicon lottery. stock speeds by manufacturer should be the same as its the same architecture

It is with overclocking; The OP of that reply doesn't know what hes talking 'bout(#nohate)

 

If it was having problems like silicon lottery at stock, it would have never went through Quality assurance.

 

I do not know much about Minecraft, but it seems like the server likes your Q8200 more then the Q8400.

 

I would keep your hopes up, but just use whats better for the server, and even try shooting microsoft a support ticket about it. you never know, they may be able to help (because they own minecraft now :P)

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how do i overclock? im not familiar with old stuff. bios is kinda useless idk please help

Yeah the bios isn't super user friendly with old mobos. Since its not an unlocked processor you can't increase the multiplier so basically all you can do is increase the frontside bus and core voltage until it's stable.

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See if OCing the q8200, and see if the performance improves. Im getting the idea that maybe the CPU is just bad. (Low quality silicon)

And Overcloxking is pretty easy, just need to understand multipliers, and what voltages mean the most.

i overclocked before but look at upcoming video i dont know how to do it

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Yeah the bios isn't super user friendly with old mobos. Since its not an unlocked processor you can't increase the multiplier so basically all you can do is increase the frontside bus and core voltage until it's stable.

look at my upcoming video its gonna be up soon i will show you my bios

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Yeah the bios isn't super user friendly with old mobos. Since its not an unlocked processor you can't increase the multiplier so basically all you can do is increase the frontside bus and core voltage until it's stable.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/232325-lga775-core2duo-core2quad-overclocking-guide/

 

ignore me, also dont post multiple in a row, just edit your previous post

 

See if OCing the q8200, and see if the performance improves. Im getting the idea that maybe the CPU is just bad. (Low quality silicon)

And Overcloxking is pretty easy, just need to understand multipliers, and what voltages mean the most.

please watch the video

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Same board and RAM for both CPUs?

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Same board and RAM for both CPUs?

yep i just switched out the cpus please watch the video

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yep i just switched out the cpus please watch the video

What is that motherboard? What make and model specifically.

If that board is out of something like a dell or even just a low grade G series chipset then it won't have the ability to change voltages and bus speeds.

Also according to ARK there's about a six month gap between the Q8200 and the Q8400. Its possible (slim chance) that the motherboard doesn't officially support the Q8400.

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What is that motherboard? What make and model specifically.

If that board is out of something like a dell or even just a low grade G series chipset then it won't have the ability to change voltages and bus speeds.

Also according to ARK there's about a six month gap between the Q8200 and the Q8400. Its possible (slim chance) that the motherboard doesn't officially support the Q8400.

is q chipset and i didnt find any info about my motherboard

 

 
 
 
 
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is q chipset and i didnt find any info about my motherboard

Q chipsets are usually business type boards. No overclocking.

Get a P35/P45 or nforce 780/790.

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Q chipsets are usually business type boards. No overclocking.

Get a P35/P45 or nforce 780/790.

than its not worth it. im just wonderring why better cpu runs server worse?

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than its not worth it. im just wonderring why better cpu runs server worse?

Hard to say. Most likely the board does not officially support the Q8400. Q35 chipsets predate it by two years.

Technically the server should run better on the Q8400 since its individual core clock is certainly faster. Could be a bad CPU.

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Hard to say. Most likely the board does not officially support the Q8400. Q35 chipsets predate it by two years.

Technically the server should run better on the Q8400 since its individual core clock is certainly faster. Could be a bad CPU.

ok next i will try an other cpu on the same board as well as the board its from factory

bit the odd thing is that cinebench score is bigger as it suppose to be

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i know but server tick rate says the different story and now its at 500ms tick rate. cinebench reports that q8400 is better than q8200 but q8200 process ticks quicker that a hell?

Did you re install windows after changing the CPU?

Partition the drive into two partitions, and install a fresh windows of the same versino on that one.

Then copy the server folder over and test again.

 

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Did you re install windows after changing the CPU?

Partition the drive into two partitions, and install a fresh windows of the same versino on that one.

Then copy the server folder over and test again.

yup i did it no change

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yup i did it no change

How are the thermals on both CPUs?

 

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look at this video i have made its 50ies and even a thumbnail is showing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgrhonHaA3I

Ahh. My bad I missed that.

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Ahh. My bad I missed that.

Do you have Java 32 AND 64 bit? The latest is now J8U45

no im using latest java 7 v79 as java 8 doesnt support java arguments

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I'm pretty certain you've just got a really bad chip. So the silicon lottery goes, I guess.

i thought silicon lottery apply only when overclocking isnt it? i got a 4690k and it doesnt oc above 4.2ghz... thats what i call silicon lottery. stock speeds by manufacturer should be the same as its the same architecture

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i thought silicon lottery apply only when overclocking isnt it? i got a 4690k and it doesnt oc above 4.2ghz... thats what i call silicon lottery. stock speeds by manufacturer should be the same as its the same architecture

It is with overclocking; The OP of that reply doesn't know what hes talking 'bout(#nohate)

 

If it was having problems like silicon lottery at stock, it would have never went through Quality assurance.

 

I do not know much about Minecraft, but it seems like the server likes your Q8200 more then the Q8400.

 

I would keep your hopes up, but just use whats better for the server, and even try shooting microsoft a support ticket about it. you never know, they may be able to help (because they own minecraft now :P)

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It is with overclocking; The OP of that reply doesn't know what hes talking 'bout(#nohate)

 

If it was having problems like silicon lottery at stock, it would have never went through Quality assurance.

 

I do not know much about Minecraft, but it seems like the server likes your Q8200 more then the Q8400.

 

I would keep your hopes up, but just use whats better for the server, and even try shooting microsoft a support ticket about it. you never know, they may be able to help (because they own minecraft now :P)

i will definetly do that thanks :)

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It is with overclocking; The OP of that reply doesn't know what hes talking 'bout(#nohate)

 

If it was having problems like silicon lottery at stock, it would have never went through Quality assurance.

 

I do not know much about Minecraft, but it seems like the server likes your Q8200 more then the Q8400.

 

I would keep your hopes up, but just use whats better for the server, and even try shooting microsoft a support ticket about it. you never know, they may be able to help (because they own minecraft now :P)

i have shooted for the ticket but nothing  they dont know anything and later i realised #facepalm microsoft own mojang

minecraft forums seems to ignore me

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/server-support/2422155-minecraft-server-doesnt-make-any-sencse-with-video

http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/2422226-minecraft-ftb-ultimate-server-doesnt-make-any

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Sorry to hear about that. :(

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