GTA V on Pentium G3258

[kappaBiceps]

I bought GTA V hoping that my dual core pentium G3258, was sufficient with my overclock beeing 4.5 GHz. But when i run the game my average fps in the city is around 30 fps, no mater what my graphics settings are (exept for MSAA and anti-aliasing then they'll dip way below). Naturaly I jumped to the conclusion that it was my CPU that was lagging behind, but in LinusTechTips' new video about GTA V (vessel.com) they test GTA V on a dual core, and get 51 fps.

I was just wondering if it could be possible to get my game running with a average fps preferably around 40-50 (or higher of course ).

 

My setup:

Intel Dual-Core Pentium G3258 4.5 GHz

XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970

8 Gb ram

[Tedster]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Could you show us what your CPU usage is like (per core on both cores) when playing GTA V?

Your 7970 might be the limiting thing here. Also they probably took the 5960x and disabled 6 cores and also disabled hyperthreading.

[Notree]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Could you show us what your CPU usage is like (per core on both cores) when playing GTA V?

Your 7970 might be the limiting thing here. Also they probably took the 5960x and disabled 6 cores and also disabled hyperthreading.

Its not his card. I can run 40+ fps on very high/ultra 2xmsaa and advanced options off  with my 7970.

[PineappleHolidays]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Could you show us what your CPU usage is like (per core on both cores) when playing GTA V?

Your 7970 might be the limiting thing here. Also they probably took the 5960x and disabled 6 cores and also disabled hyperthreading.

+1 I hate when they do that , it gives move cache and DDR4 to a dual core .

7970 is sufficient for more than 30 fps though .

[zappian]

+1 I hate when they do that , it gives move cache and DDR4 to a dual core .

7970 is sufficient for more than 30 fps though .

 

Yeah thats true.

The pentium wont run the game ay any satisfactory framerate.

It is one of the most cpu heavy games on the platform , get an i5 OP lol.

What did people expect really , its a massive open world game.

[Manny Calavera]

Advanced options off?

[NeatSquidYT]

Download MSI Afterburner, run the program that comes with it called RivaTuner Statistics Server, set the frame limiter to 40 and the stuttering should go. Any more question, DM me. I run GTA V on my G3258 perfectly fine

[Aniallation]

I bought GTA V hoping that my dual core pentium G3258, was sufficient with my overclock beeing 4.5 GHz. But when i run the game my average fps in the city is around 30 fps, no mater what my graphics settings are (exept for MSAA and anti-aliasing then they'll dip way below). Naturaly I jumped to the conclusion that it was my CPU that was lagging behind, but in LinusTechTips' new video about GTA V (vessel.com) they test GTA V on a dual core, and get 51 fps.

Honestly, I don't understand why every benchmark shows games working so well on the G3258, when in real-world it sucks. Are they getting paid by Intel to advertise these numbers? My friend also has a G3258 with an R9 290, and I can tell you for sure it's the fault of the GPU, because in GTA 5 he also gets around 30FPS driving around the city, with a LOT of noticeable stuttering and lag. Meanwhile my Phenom II X6 + with a weaker 7870 (R9 270) can get 45+ FPS at the same settings.

 

Too many people fell for the G3258. Two cores is not enough for AAA gaming.

[PineappleHolidays]

Honestly, I don't understand why every benchmark shows games working so well on the G3258, when in real-world it sucks. Are they getting paid by Intel to advertise these numbers? My friend also has a G3258 with an R9 290, and I can tell you for sure it's the fault of the GPU, because in GTA 5 he also gets around 30FPS driving around the city, with a LOT of noticeable stuttering and lag. 

They don't want to spend the time benching the real 3258 , so they get prettier results with the extra cache , ddr4 , etc 

[kappaBiceps]

Welcome to the Forum.

 

Could you show us what your CPU usage is like (per core on both cores) when playing GTA V?

Your 7970 might be the limiting thing here. Also they probably took the 5960x and disabled 6 cores and also disabled hyperthreading.

Thank you

 

In the included screenshots you can see my cpu usage, and how it max out when i tap in, and slows down when i tap out, it even max out in the menu before going in to story mode.

My max GPU usage is 58%.

 

Screenshots:

http://imgur.com/a/rRqeN

[kappaBiceps]

Download MSI Afterburner, run the program that comes with it called RivaTuner Statistics Server, set the frame limiter to 40 and the stuttering should go. Any more question, DM me. I run GTA V on my G3258 perfectly fine

This didn't do anything but maxing my fps at 40, my fps still dips below 25.

[kappaBiceps]

Honestly, I don't understand why every benchmark shows games working so well on the G3258, when in real-world it sucks. Are they getting paid by Intel to advertise these numbers? My friend also has a G3258 with an R9 290, and I can tell you for sure it's the fault of the GPU, because in GTA 5 he also gets around 30FPS driving around the city, with a LOT of noticeable stuttering and lag. Meanwhile my Phenom II X6 + with a weaker 7870 (R9 270) can get 45+ FPS at the same settings.

 

Too many people fell for the G3258. Two cores is not enough for AAA gaming.

Yeah i thought i was beeing all smart saving on my cpu, while getting the same performance as a higher priced cpu.

I can not recommend this cpu for anything more demanding than CS:GO

[Aniallation]

In the included screenshots you can see my cpu usage, and how it max out when i tap in, and slows down when i tap out, it even max out in the menu before going in to story mode.

My max GPU usage is 58%.

CPU gets hammered while your GPU is barely using half it's potential. Definitely CPU bottleneck right there

[WastedEmu]

This didn't do anything but maxing my fps at 40, my fps still dips below 25.

I'm running a similar setup on my HTPC with the G3258 overclocked to 4.2 GHz and an HD 7950, and I'm getting no dips below 27fps, and a max of 40fps, so similar results with a similar setup.

I'm upgrading my gaming computer soon with a few component swaps from my HTPC to the gaming PC with wither a Xeon e3-1231v3 or spend the extra $70 and get a 4790k (undecided about the CPU at the moment) and the Z97 board in my HTPC, and moving my FX-8350 to my HTPC, then I'm not quite sure what to do with my G3258 (probably just throw that in my storage server to replace my AMD Athlon 5350)

[MeDownYou]

 Any more question, DM me.

Everytime I read this I think "deathmatch me" l0l

[itachipirate]

I bought GTA V hoping that my dual core pentium G3258, was sufficient with my overclock beeing 4.5 GHz. But when i run the game my average fps in the city is around 30 fps, no mater what my graphics settings are (exept for MSAA and anti-aliasing then they'll dip way below). Naturaly I jumped to the conclusion that it was my CPU that was lagging behind, but in LinusTechTips' new video about GTA V (vessel.com) they test GTA V on a dual core, and get 51 fps.

I was just wondering if it could be possible to get my game running with a average fps preferably around 40-50 (or higher of course ).

 

My setup:

Intel Dual-Core Pentium G3258 4.5 GHz

XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970

8 Gb ram

They probably tested on an i3 dual core, which would perform much better than the pentium. Rockstar said in regards to the pentium that the CPU is not at all supported and a quad core is a must. Though it still runs on dual cores, which Rockstar did not mention

[SteveGrabowski]

Honestly, I don't understand why every benchmark shows games working so well on the G3258, when in real-world it sucks. Are they getting paid by Intel to advertise these numbers? My friend also has a G3258 with an R9 290, and I can tell you for sure it's the fault of the GPU, because in GTA 5 he also gets around 30FPS driving around the city, with a LOT of noticeable stuttering and lag. Meanwhile my Phenom II X6 + with a weaker 7870 (R9 270) can get 45+ FPS at the same settings.

 

Too many people fell for the G3258. Two cores is not enough for AAA gaming.

 

The Pentium G3258 gets high average framerates, so it looks acceptable in the most shallow of benchmarks. That average framerate number smoothes out the frametime variance so when you're jumping constantly between 30 FPS and 80 FPS that average comes out pretty high. My experience using a 4.4 GHz G3258 was good average framerates but hugely varying framerates and nasty stutter, neither of which shows up with my Xeon E3-1231v3. Eurogamer.net went into these average framerate results and how they didn't reflect the true gaming experience on an overclocked G3258 in pretty good depth in their G3258 review.

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-pentium-g3258-review

[TDP_Equinox]

inb4 G3258 tricked another idiot. 

It's not a good cpu.

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[Syte]

inb4 G3258 tricked another idiot. 

It's not a good cpu.

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How many have you had a chance to use with real-world tests and real-world machine with a wide variance of hardware first-hand? I think I'm up to over 100, I've done 15 these last 2 weeks alone.

You get two unlocked Haswell Cores on a $70 chip, combined with the fact you can overclock to 4.4GHz easily on stock on an H81 or B85 Chipset, leaving you with $130 spent and two 4.4GHz Haswell Cores. Games that benefit from high IPC (World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Dota2, Counter Strike, etc.) will perform much better with a 4.4GHz Pentium than a 3.6GHz i5 and saves you $200.

What would you rather? A GTX 750 with an i5 or a GTX 960 and some change with a Pentium? The CPU has a valid place on the market; large sale numbers (at least on my end) and success only goes to prove that.

[ThomasD]

How many have you had a chance to use with real-world tests and real-world machine with a wide variance of hardware first-hand? I think I'm up to over 100, I've done 15 these last 2 weeks alone.

You get two unlocked Haswell Cores on a $70 chip, combined with the fact you can overclock to 4.4GHz easily on stock on an H81 or B85 Chipset, leaving you with $130 spent and 2 4.4GHz Haswell Cores. Game that benefit from high IPC (World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Dota2, Counter Strike, etc.) will perform much better with a 4.4GHz Pentium than a 3.6GHz i5 and saves you $200.

What would you rather? A GTX 750 with an i5 or a GTX 960 and some change with a Pentium? The CPU has a valid place on the market; large sale numbers (at least on my end) and success only goes to prove that.

You are wasting your breath.

 

Some people don't get it because they don't want to get it.  So much easier to slag things they don't like and call people names they don't deserve.  That many of these people are actual children is only icing on the irony cake.

 

The G3258 is a $70 (or less) chip that will run plenty of existing games very well.  It will not run 2015's latest and greatest very well, but nobody ever said it would. 

[Syte]

You are wasting your breath.

 

Some people don't get it because they don't want to get it.  So much easier to slag things they don't like and call people names they don't deserve.  That many of these people are actual children is only icing on the irony cake.

 

The G3258 is a $70 (or less) chip that will run plenty of existing games very well.  It will not run 2015's latest and greatest very well, but nobody ever said it would.

I suppose you're right.

I would like to point out that the Pentium-K can actually hold 60 FPS with a GTX 960 at medium-high settings without stutter. TXAA causes stutter and any other anomalies can be removed by simply limiting FPS to 60.

The only downside is streaming the game or doing any other CPU-heavy task would indeed impact performance heavily.

[TDP_Equinox]

How many have you had a chance to use with real-world tests and real-world machine with a wide variance of hardware first-hand? I think I'm up to over 100, I've done 15 these last 2 weeks alone.

You get two unlocked Haswell Cores on a $70 chip, combined with the fact you can overclock to 4.4GHz easily on stock on an H81 or B85 Chipset, leaving you with $130 spent and two 4.4GHz Haswell Cores. Games that benefit from high IPC (World of Warcraft, League of Legends, Dota2, Counter Strike, etc.) will perform much better with a 4.4GHz Pentium than a 3.6GHz i5 and saves you $200.

What would you rather? A GTX 750 with an i5 or a GTX 960 and some change with a Pentium? The CPU has a valid place on the market; large sale numbers (at least on my end) and success only goes to prove that.

It's to the point that even some 2012 games don't work on a dual core, no matter how powerful that dual core is.  So many games won't even launch on a dual core. 

You're talking about overclocking?  You know that you can get a chip that is only stable at stock, right? 

Sure, some of them OC great! But so many of them OC like total shite. 

You can get a quad core for 15 bucks more, and a cheap board too. At least then you'll be able to listen to music while you play games.

G3258 is dumb, stop telling people it isn't.

[Syte]

It's to the point that even some 2012 games don't work on a dual core, no matter how powerful that dual core is.  So many games won't even launch on a dual core. 

You're talking about overclocking?  You know that you can get a chip that is only stable at stock, right? 

Sure, some of them OC great! But so many of them OC like total shite. 

You can get a quad core for 15 bucks more, and a cheap board too. At least then you'll be able to listen to music while you play games.

G3258 is dumb, stop telling people it isn't.

Far Cry 4 runs on Dual-Core you just have to get a crack to circumvent the manual lock that Ubisoft put on for god-knows-what reason. (Linus has mentioned this) You can easily listen to music to play games with a 3258, a calculator these days could decode MP3 in its spare time. Other than Far Cry 4 I'm not aware of any games, could you please provide examples?

A 3258 will give you much more performance than a "quad core" X4, and like I said just how much experience do you have with these chips? There's not a single G3258 that I've ever tested that won't hit 4.0 on stock cooling with 1.195v (1.31v is recommend ceiling) and absolute ease on a cheap chipset, if you have evidence to the contrary of that please provide it as I've provided my first-hand experience as a person who actually works with every retail CPU on a daily basis.

[Ketcchup]

Far Cry 4 runs on Dual-Core you just have to get a crack to circumvent the manual lock that Ubisoft put on for god-knows-what reason. (Linus has mentioned this) You can easily listen to music to play games with a 3258, a calculator these days could decode MP3 in its spare time. Other than Far Cry 4 I'm not aware of any games, could you please provide examples?

A 3258 will give you much more performance than a "quad core" X4, and like I said just how much experience do you have with these chips? There's not a single G3258 that I've ever tested that won't hit 4.0 on stock cooling with 1.195v (1.31v is recommend ceiling) and absolute ease on a cheap chipset, if you have evidence to the contrary of that please provide it as I've provided my first-hand experience as a person who actually works with every retail CPU on a daily basis.

Athlon X4 and i3 provide much lesser frametime than g3258 and have no stuttering like g3258

[TDP_Equinox]

Far Cry 4 runs on Dual-Core you just have to get a crack to circumvent the manual lock that Ubisoft put on for god-knows-what reason. (Linus has mentioned this) You can easily listen to music to play games with a 3258, a calculator these days could decode MP3 in its spare time. Other than Far Cry 4 I'm not aware of any games, could you please provide examples?

A 3258 will give you much more performance than a "quad core" X4, and like I said just how much experience do you have with these chips? There's not a single G3258 that I've ever tested that won't hit 4.0 on stock cooling with 1.195v (1.31v is recommend ceiling) and absolute ease on a cheap chipset, if you have evidence to the contrary of that please provide it as I've provided my first-hand experience as a person who actually works with every retail CPU on a daily basis.

I've had hands on with several different chips, but not as many as you apparently. 

Examples? BF3 does weird stuff on a dual core, like AI not being there, crashes, etc.

Dragon age: Inquisition doesn't run on a dual core, have fun playing multiplayer in a BF4 game, Minecraft of all things, does not run the worst, but does not run great either. 

Games don't like dual cores, and for general use, a "quad core" will be better than 3258. 

If this chip had hyperthreading, it would be so much better.