Experiences with non-techies

[zootcake]

the thing is its always going to be cheaper doing it yourself no matter the specs.

[WkdPaul]

6 minutes ago, zootcake said:

the thing is its always going to be cheaper doing it yourself no matter the specs.

@daniellearmouth just told you, Linus made a video showing a pre-build from Best Buy was actually cheaper.

[daniellearmouth]

1 minute ago, zootcake said:

the thing is its always going to be cheaper doing it yourself no matter the specs.

And again, Linus has proved otherwise.

It wasn't an Acer Predator; it was some Asus unit. Whoops...but regardless, he's proven that isn't necessarily the case.

 

Try building a computer with an i5 6400, 8GB of DDR4 RAM, A/C Wireless, USB 3.1 capability and an R9 370 for less than $900 CAD / $700 USD. It's actually pretty tough.

 

Here's the video I am referring to if you want that myth of prebuilts inherently being inferior in every way full-on busted.

[jonsmith9847]

5 minutes ago, zootcake said:

the thing is its always going to be cheaper doing it yourself no matter the specs.

Not allways the case, when manufacturers build "pre built" computers they buy the components in bulk quantities direct from the manufacturer. This means that they pay less for the components and sometimes this saving is passed onto the end user. It's also important to factor in the cost of a windows 10 license key, it's commonly missed out when comparing the cost of a pre built vs a custom built. 

[BingoFishy]

8 hours ago, jonsmith9847 said:

Not allways the case, when manufacturers build "pre built" computers they buy the components in bulk quantities direct from the manufacturer. This means that they pay less for the components and sometimes this saving is passed onto the end user. It's also important to factor in the cost of a windows 10 license key, it's commonly missed out when comparing the cost of a pre built vs a custom built. 

Also, they tend to use crappy PSUs. Not all the time (Dell uses good PSUs for example) but it's not uncommon. Especially from certain boutique builders like cyberpowerpc and iBuyPower.

[cantalOPe]

On January 17, 2013 at 5:47 AM, rainbrodash666 said:

so this one time I was hanging out with my friend who is the manager at a tech shop by where I live and a girl comes in and buys a 2tb hard drive. we let her know that we install hard drives for $1 (the cost of the sata cable we use) and she says "just because I am a woman does not mean I cant work on computers" and leaves in a huff. two days later she comes back in saying that the HDD is not working so we take the computer in to look at it, we open it and the HDD is nowhere to be seen, so we ask her where it is. and it turns out that she scanned it and put the scanned image on her desktop to install the drive. and to top that off she threw away the drive she paid almost $200 for and she wanted us to give her a new one.

 

 

 

EDIT: feel free to quote this comment, I like seeing peoples reactions even though the comment is 2+ years old.

MY EYES

[1shanghai]

16 hours ago, daniellearmouth said:

And again, Linus has proved otherwise.

It wasn't an Acer Predator; it was some Asus unit. Whoops...but regardless, he's proven that isn't necessarily the case.

 

Try building a computer with an i5 6400, 8GB of DDR4 RAM, A/C Wireless, USB 3.1 capability and an R9 370 for less than $900 CAD / $700 USD. It's actually pretty tough.

 

Here's the video I am referring to if you want that myth of prebuilts inherently being inferior in every way full-on busted.

Boom.(windows from kinguin)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 4GB Video Card  ($154.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.98 @ Directron) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150PCe PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($11.89 @ OutletPC) 
Other: Windows 10 ($30.00)
Total: $565.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-13 14:55 EDT-0400

Edited June 13, 2016 by 1shanghai
Forgotten items

[WkdPaul]

14 minutes ago, 1shanghai said:

Boom.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($26.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 4GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Raidmax ATX-404WU ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($29.99 @ NCIX US) 
Other: Windows 10 ($20.00)
Total: $513.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-13 14:40 EDT-0400

no wireless, $40 of mail-in rebates (I personally was always lucky but it's not the case for everyone) and no Windows (don't know why you put $20 for Windows 10)

 

Also, this was done in Canada, we unfortunately have a premium on just about anything here, you could try again using ca.pcpartpicker.com instead.

 

EDIT: I just transfered that part list into the Canadian partpicker ;

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/y4MmGf

[1shanghai]

12 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

no wireless, $40 of mail-in rebates (I personally was always lucky but it's not the case for everyone) and no Windows (don't know why you put $20 for Windows 10)

thanx, i made multiple mistakes

[1shanghai]

24 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

no wireless, $40 of mail-in rebates (I personally was always lucky but it's not the case for everyone) and no Windows (don't know why you put $20 for Windows 10)

 

Also, this was done in Canada, we unfortunately have a premium on just about anything here, you could try again using ca.pcpartpicker.com instead.

 

EDIT: I just transfered that part list into the Canadian partpicker ;

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/y4MmGf

oh snap under 700 usd but not under 900 cad. not trying anymore i give up

[BingoFishy]

47 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

no wireless, $40 of mail-in rebates (I personally was always lucky but it's not the case for everyone) and no Windows (don't know why you put $20 for Windows 10)

 

Also, this was done in Canada, we unfortunately have a premium on just about anything here, you could try again using ca.pcpartpicker.com instead.

 

EDIT: I just transfered that part list into the Canadian partpicker ;

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/y4MmGf

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($233.55 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: Asus H110M-C D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($75.20 @ shopRBC) 
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory  ($29.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.99 @ NCIX) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 370 2GB Video Card  ($139.99 @ NCIX) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa II ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.99 @ NCIX) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($24.55 @ DirectCanada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($116.76 @ DirectCanada) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Netgear A6200-100NAS USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($25.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $781.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-13 15:14 EDT-0400

 

No USB 3.1 but other than that it's about equivalent. But seriously, it's a relatively good deal to buy prebuilt in this case. Also, it's $999 rn.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-m32cd-desktop-pc-grey-blue-intel-core-i5-6400-1tb-sata-hdd-8gb-ram-amd-radeon-r9-370-graphics-m32cd-ca020t/10394143.aspx

[Clanscorpia]

2 hours ago, BingoFishy said:

Snip

If you get Windows 10 from Reddit the build is even cheaper

[BingoFishy]

15 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

If you get Windows 10 from Reddit the build is even cheaper

Yeah but a lot of those aren't legit I've heard.

[Clanscorpia]

8 minutes ago, BingoFishy said:

Yeah but a lot of those aren't legit I've heard.

There's always also random keys off the internet. Mine works perfectly fine  

[vanished]

6 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

There's always also random keys off the internet. Mine works perfectly fine  

Just so long as the keys you are using were legitimately purchased from an authorized retailer

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Just so long as the keys you are using were legitimately purchased from an authorized retailer

Not sure if mine was.... found mine when looking up Windows 10 keys

[vanished]

3 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

Don't say that.  You might offend people on r/windows and get banned and muted.

The consensus around here is that mentioning the various sources of cheap windows keys is allowed, but only just barely.  We try to avoid promoting it...

[vanished]

1 minute ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

No it's a joke I'm referring to the disaster that happened yesterday with mods of various sub reddits. 

oh  what happened?

[BingoFishy]

1 minute ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

No it's a joke I'm referring to the disaster that happened yesterday with mods of various sub reddits. 

What happened? You can PM me.

[vanished]

1 minute ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

FOr some odd reason yesterday the shooting in Florida was not anywhere to be seen on reddit's front page.  the r/news mods would delete any thread talking about it and if someone would state facts  like THE SUPSECT'S NAME mods would deleted your comments.  People would simply ask "why did you delete my comment?"  and they were promptly muted and no repsonse was given.  One mod LITERALLY told people to kill themselves ( I'll try and find the screenshots).  This massively backfired, people unsubbed to various subreddits in droves and a a subreddit DEDICATED TO DONALD TRUMP ( like a serious one) became the source of news on reddit and its still trending today. 

wow, lol what a failure.  Well we strive to do a little better than that  

[BingoFishy]

2 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

FOr some odd reason yesterday the shooting in Florida was not anywhere to be seen on reddit's front page.  the r/news mods would delete any thread talking about it and if someone would state facts  like THE SUPSECT'S NAME mods would delete your comments.  People would simply ask "why did you delete my comment?"  and they were promptly muted and no repsonse was given.  One mod LITERALLY told people to kill themselves ( I'll try and find the screenshots).  This massively backfired, people unsubbed to various subreddits in droves and a  subreddit DEDICATED TO DONALD TRUMP ( like a serious one) became the source of news on reddit and its still trending today. 

That is awful. Did the mods have a good track record before this?

[Clanscorpia]

11 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

No it's a joke I'm referring to the disaster that happened yesterday with mods of various sub reddits. 

What happened

[BingoFishy]

3 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

What happened

Look at your mouse and push the little bubbly thing forwards.

[Clanscorpia]

RIP Forum loading times

[BingoFishy]

1 minute ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

Also mods have posted on r/thedonald ( I know ..I know)  pictures of reddit admins ( EMPLOYEES of reddit !!) telling the donald trump mods to not let anyone post threads on their subreddit talking about the  censorship on various subreddits... I thought reddit was about free speech and sharing ideas etc...

No. It's about having "read it" before it's on the news.