Experiences with non-techies

[WkdPaul]

14 minutes ago, Codeplayer said:

Yeah- CPU - Central Processing Unit - Processor.

I really don't understand why people keep calling the whole computer "CPU" when the name (like you said) obviously means something else!!! (I've also heard "hard drive" when talking about the whole system)

 

However, I understand @W3dge confusion (in saying "whole computers" were once called CPU), if you go back far enough, the only computers available were "mainframe" where storage and other peripherals were "separate" and so you had a "box" (usually a whole cabinet) that was the CPU, but from what I can see, we're not in the 60's anymore and we're using microprocessors!

[Str_Mape]

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1 minute ago, Str_Mape said:

These are from the same conversation

"Any games released in the past 1-2 years will support Direct X 12"

"GTX 970 is around 4-5 times quicker than the GTX 950"

Do people just make stuff up hoping no one will question them or are they actually misinterpreting information that badly?  Or worse yet, are they finding something somewhere that told them that? 

[daniellearmouth]

2 minutes ago, Str_Mape said:

"Any games released in the past 1-2 years will support Direct X 12"

"GTX 970 is around 4-5 times quicker than the GTX 950"

[DirtyDane]

2 minutes ago, Str_Mape said:

These are from the same conversation

"Any games released in the past 1-2 years will support Direct X 12"

"GTX 970 is around 4-5 times quicker than the GTX 950"

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[Str_Mape]

On 2/9/2016 at 10:33 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

Do people just make stuff up hoping no one will question them or are they actually misinterpreting information that badly?  Or worse yet, are they finding something somewhere that told them that? 

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Just now, Str_Mape said:

This is someone I work with talking to customers while I'm working on computers out the back 

oh no... please, if you care about that company, tell them to not let him near customers any more

[daniellearmouth]

Just now, Str_Mape said:

This is someone I work with talking to customers while I'm working on computers out the back 

Oh......my sympathies.

That must be insufferable.

[Str_Mape]

On 2/9/2016 at 10:35 AM, daniellearmouth said:

Oh......my sympathies.

That must be insufferable.

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On 2/9/2016 at 10:35 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

oh no... please, if you care about that company, tell them to not let him near customers any more

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Just now, Str_Mape said:

It's pretty bad sometimes, at least he's getting me quite a bit of likes on the forum...

It's difficult when he's the boss...

He's a cool guy / boss but he doesn't know that much about computers but is pretty convinced that he knows a lot...

Oh... yeah I guess that would make it a little awkward.  Well, assuming he's not intentionally misleading people for sales, surely he would listen to reason if you can show proof on a couple things you know he has wrong.  Best case scenario, not only will you correct those topics but he might realize he should learn more before spreading lies

[Str_Mape]

On 2/9/2016 at 10:40 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

Oh... yeah I guess that would make it a little awkward.  Well, assuming he's not intentionally misleading people for sales, surely he would listen to reason if you can show proof on a couple things you know he has wrong.  Best case scenario, not only will you correct those topics but he might realize he should learn more before spreading lies

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1 minute ago, Str_Mape said:

He knows I know a lot more than him, the issue is that I can't come out in the middle of a sale and tell my boss he's wrong and make him look stupid in front of the customer...

That's true.  But does he not know what things he has right or wrong?  Usually when someone doesn't know something, they're aware of that.  If he does, you'd think rather than making stuff up he'd just call you over or something, or try to learn from you in spare time.

 

Unless he's convinced he has all these things right... but it doesn't sound like that's the issue...

[Str_Mape]

On 2/9/2016 at 10:45 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

That's true.  But does he not know what things he has right or wrong?  Usually when someone doesn't know something, they're aware of that.  If he does, you'd think rather than making stuff up he'd just call you over or something, or try to learn from you in spare time.

 

Unless he's convinced he has all these things right... but it doesn't sound like that's the issue...

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3 minutes ago, Str_Mape said:

I think he wants to look confident in front of the customer and asking me over something fairly simple is kinda a bad look for him, especially when he's been doing computer sales stuff for around 10 years

He doesn't seem to know what he doesn't know which is also pretty bad.

Well then it does sound like just a lack of caring.  Personally, I would feel terrible if I realized I had given a customer woefully inaccurate information and they made purchasing decisions based on that, and to that end, I'd do everything in my power to try and know everything, whether that means researching in spare time, or looking something up in front of the customer in order to make sure I'm correct.

 

Imagining that from the other point of view, as a customer, I don't think I would feel put off in any way if the sales person admitted they weren't 100% sure and pulled up hard evidence to setting something.  It would actually instill confidence that they care enough to give me correct info and that they know when they need to check something, rather than just guessing.

[Str_Mape]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well then it does sound like just a lack of caring.  Personally, I would feel terrible if I realized I had given a customer woefully inaccurate information and they made purchasing decisions based on that, and to that end, I'd do everything in my power to try and know everything, whether that means researching in spare time, or looking something up in front of the customer in order to make sure I'm correct.

 

Imagining that from the other point of view, as a customer, I don't think I would feel put off in any way if the sales person admitted they weren't 100% sure and pulled up hard evidence to setting something.  It would actually instill confidence that they care enough to give me correct info and that they know when they need to check something, rather than just guessing.

Yea, I certainly get that and I'm going to have to have a talk with him soon.

[Belgarathian]

4 hours ago, Codeplayer said:

And its not even the best that fits in, lets say socket 2011. I'm a Xeon fanboy.

This post is like a vegan who feels that they need to let everyone know they're vegan, and are a superior race of inferior people. 

[Hogger]

this happened yesterday. I walked into the library at my school, where the only three printers that students can use to print are. I walk in, the morning a big paper is due, and like 15 people are there freaking out because the printers aren't working. they are all yelling "get the tech delartment, quick!".... I take one look at the printers and I say with a smug on my face, "do you guys want me to turn the printers on? or would you like me to grab IT so they can press the power button for you." OMG I was laughing so hard.

[Allshevski]

My teacher asked one of my classmates to help her with turning on this "machine". Only thing he had to do was to press the power button on the case. The teacher has been working 10 years, and she has to use computers every day. My facedesk was heard all over the class.

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13 minutes ago, Allshevski said:

My teacher asked one of my classmates to help her with turning on this "machine". Only thing he had to do was to press the power button on the case. The teacher has been working 10 years, and she has to use computers every day. My facedesk was heard all over the class.

See that's the kind of thing I'm talking about (see my rant a little while back).  How can someone not know how to press the power button after that long!?  I could forgive pretty much anyone for not knowing how a new things works right away, but if you've been using something for 10 years, don't you think you should know where the power button is?  Just... baffling 

3 hours ago, Hogger said:

this happened yesterday. I walked into the library at my school, where the only three printers that students can use to print are. I walk in, the morning a big paper is due, and like 15 people are there freaking out because the printers aren't working. they are all yelling "get the tech delartment, quick!".... I take one look at the printers and I say with a smug on my face, "do you guys want me to turn the printers on? or would you like me to grab IT so they can press the power button for you." OMG I was laughing so hard.

That reminds me of a printer story too   So the school has a whole network of printers so you can sign in pretty much anywhere and if there is a printer near by, it will be setup as an option to print from on the computer you are using, but the catch is it costs money.  Only like a few cents per page I think, but its just another roadblock.  So, we were in the computer lab, and there was one of these printers in there, and there was also a little office in the back with another printer in there.  So, not wanting to use the school computers, or pay for printing on "the common printer", I notice that all ethernet cables are just kind of loose under the desk.  So I pop one out of the computer I'm not using and plug it into my laptop, add the printer I find, and print.  I walk into the back room where the instructor is and he's like "Oh, I didn't know you guys could print to this printer" and I said "we can't", grabbed my stuff and walked out 

[Brennan Price]

On 31/01/2016 at 3:29 PM, Godlygamer23 said:

A Gigabyte is 1000MB, while a Gibibyte is 1024 mebibytes.

*gigabyte = 1024 Megabytes

[Allshevski]

51 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

See that's the kind of thing I'm talking about (see my rant a little while back).  How can someone not know how to press the power button after that long!?  I could forgive pretty much anyone for not knowing how a new things works right away, but if you've been using something for 10 years, don't you think you should know where the power button is?  Just... baffling 

Yeah. Other example - my grandmother. Worked 40 years for the same company with a computer in front of her. Doesn't know how to put a clock widget on her desktop. Just.. Just.. Naarghh..

Edit: She wondered why she has never got a promotion.. Let me guess..

 

39 minutes ago, Brennan_Price said:

*gigabyte = 1024 Megabytes

Gigabyte is actually 1000 Megabytes. He was right. Gibibyte is 1024 Mebibytes.

[Norseman4]

On 2/9/2016 at 10:08 AM, wkdpaul said:

no ... it actually NEVER was called that ...

 

*sigh*

"8 Gamers, 1 CPU", and Linus has said on video that he's not changing the name. (As compared to "2 Gamers 1 Tower" from earlier.)

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33 minutes ago, Norseman4 said:

"8 Gamers, 1 CPU", and Linus has said on video that he's not changing the name. (As compared to "2 Gamers 1 Tower" from earlier.)

I think it was because of the original video that really was 2 gamers 1 CPU, but then he didn't bother renaming it just because the new one technically required 2 CPUs.

[WkdPaul]

1 hour ago, Norseman4 said:

"8 Gamers, 1 CPU", and Linus has said on video that he's not changing the name. (As compared to "2 Gamers 1 Tower" from earlier.)

*sigh*

[daniellearmouth]

2 hours ago, Norseman4 said:

"8 Gamers, 1 CPU", and Linus has said on video that he's not changing the name. (As compared to "2 Gamers 1 Tower" from earlier.)

Firstly, it's '7 Gamers, 1 CPU'.

Secondly, the father project is '2 Gamers, 1 CPU', not '2 Gamers, 1 Tower'.

 

Lastly, the CPU doesn't refer to the computer itself. It refers to how many CPUs it used. Yes, it uses two and not one despite what the name says, but let's be honest here, it sounds cooler than two because they got more out of one than what anyone else had so far.