Thought I might try out AMD , what CPU to buy ?

[miagisan]

i bought a fx 6300 for $70 and a Gigabyte UD3P-970 for $50 (open box item)

 

Was an awesome upgrade and handles anything i throw at it

 

*god bless microcenter*

[D3MON]

Topic tells my tale.

Trying AMD for the first time since my Athlon 64. 1,3GHz. 

What CPU to buy ? 

with a tight budget and those games are not the most demanding so an fx6300 with either an asus m5a78l-m/usb3 or if you can spare a bit more the msi 970 gaming, if you can afford the latter maybe even an fx8300/fx8320/fx8320E its 33% more powerful which wont matter for those games but the amount of spare power will be cool.

done.

skyrim

http://www.techspot.com/review/467-skyrim-performance/page7.html

borderlands

http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page6.html

thief

http://www.techspot.com/review/787-thief-benchmarks/page4.html

dying light

http://www.techspot.com/review/956-dying-light-benchmarks/page5.html

first 2 games are dx9...

second 2 games are a little better but still not great, in thief anything above an i3/fx4300> will perform pretty damn well around 53fps.

dying light is a pos and eats 3gb of system ram.....like cod does, but its probably the best engine out of those, an fx4300> at 4.5ghz will maintain 79fps alongside the intel cpu's

[i_build_nanosuits]

with a tight budget and those games are not the most demanding so an fx6300 with either an asus m5a78l-m/usb3 or if you can spare a bit more the msi 970 gaming.

done.

what are you talking about? Dying light run at sub 30 frames on AMD FX!

Even the old sandy bridge uber low end core i3-2100 is doing better...this game is all about sheer core #1 speed (like MANY others BTW)...something at which AMD honestly SUCKS!

 

[Toadboy]

I'd say 8350

[i_build_nanosuits]

I'd say 8350

read the entire thread and STOP IGNORING THE BENCHMARKS THAT ALL SHOWS THE FX IS A VERY BAD CHIP FOR GAMING!!

and then come back and formulate an INFORMED OPINION!!

[Ynkeeblood9]

Don't go to the dark side, save your money and buy Intel you can't go wrong

[Kc7vwc]

My wife still games on an Fx6300 with an r9 270. Real world it's a fine setup. Granted its dead end, but for right now it plays well. I would also recommend Intel, but IMO the fx is only bad when you look at it through a benchmarking view.

[sgloux3470]

You guys are getting ridiculous.

 

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

You guys are getting ridiculous.

 

hey look!! another one who prefer to ignore evidence and benchmarks that we provide!

[D3MON]

fanboy stuff

 

2fps...

[SkilledRebuilds]

hey look!! another one who prefer to ignore evidence and benchmarks that we provide!

THIS.

FFS Guys it's pretty fucking obvious....certain situations where IPC really counts, FX falls on its ass. Read below.

 

Underlined for emphasis/importance.

 

WHEN using a midrange GPU, your fine,.. when using a HIGHEND GPU, and chasing WAY OVER 60fps, eg: Dual-GPU performance & 120hz/144hz monitors, your gunna have a bad time... Your IPC limited.

 

Your GPU bound in most games yes, but at such a high end level of performance, the FX is imposing CPU lmitations to efficiently use your Dual-GPU/SLI/Crossfire setup in extreme FPS cases.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2fps...

MOUHAHAHAH!!! nowhere CLOSE...here...live gameplay:

 

SEE THAT BOTTLENECK?! GPU USAGE AROUND 55-60% CONSISTENTLY...30-35FPS CONSISTENTLY...THIS IS FX SON!

 

Want some more of this just to make sure? here we go:

now GO AWAY, FAN BOY!

 

Now here's the gaming running on MY MACHINE:

that's how it should be played.

[SkilledRebuilds]

All that AMD VS Intel Dying light graph shows is the FX is still lacking in IPC whereas the Intels lower frequency still holds up due to having a better IPC overall.

So... yeah.

 

 

[D3MON]

just going to leave this here..

still yet to see an i3 4160 do this.
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/dying-light-runs-like-poop-31819909/

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEwQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespot.com%2Fforums%2Fpc-mac-discussion-1000004%2Fdying-light-runs-like-poop-31819909%2F&ei=XCwSVai-IczWUcqLgsAL&usg=AFQjCNGNLVYVUWj00QtKCGLJHh8RGycZNg&sig2=F_1Dk40MpyyQfuTSR8tOig&bvm=bv.89184060,d.d24
"I've come to realize that anytime a game has a Nvidia logo plastered on it, it will most likely run like poop."

[SkilledRebuilds]

just going to leave this here..

Both are 3.5Ghz CPU's when loaded (I know the Sandy has Turbo, but under load it drops), architectural differences would have the Haswell IPC better than Sandy Bridge-E's IPC.

I know the SB-E CPU has more cores,.. the game doesn't use them. Comes down to frequency and IPC again..

[sgloux3470]

hey look!! another one who prefer to ignore evidence and benchmarks that we provide!

 

You guys are shitting up a thread with unrelated bullshit.  He's going to pair it with a  570, it doesn't matter what CPU he uses.  You even said so yourself about the GTX 670 earlier in the thread.  Atleast recommend him a fucking i3 which is far closer to his price bracket and performance tier.

 

By all means, if someone asks "AMD or Intel" feel free to trigger the benchmark spirit bomb, but none of this is relevant to what the OP's question actually was.  

[i_build_nanosuits]

You guys are shitting up a thread with unrelated bullshit. He's going to pair it with a 570, it doesn't matter what CPU he uses. You even said so yourself about the GTX 670 earlier in the thread. Atleast recommend him a fucking i3 which is far closer to his price bracket and performance tier.

By all means, if someone asks "AMD or Intel" feel free to trigger the benchmark spirit bomb, but none of this is relevant to what the OP's question actually was.

that's what i did if you read i recommended the core i3...and if over budget i said go with the athlon 860K which is far better value than any FX.

just going to leave this here..

snip!

Yes this is because that game rely purely on sheer core speed...that's all!

[Aniallation]

DID NOBODY READ THE OP?!

 

Stop with the god damn Intel vs AMD war. Chances are OP isn't running their 1.3GHz Athlon 64 with the GTX 570. They want an AMD CPU for a reason, possibly as a secondary rig to see what their new chips are like. How do you know that OP hasn't had ten Intel PCs since his Athlon 64?

[Aniallation]

You guys are shitting up a thread with unrelated bullshit.  He's going to pair it with a  570, it doesn't matter what CPU he uses.  You even said so yourself about the GTX 670 earlier in the thread.  Atleast recommend him a fucking i3 which is far closer to his price bracket and performance tier.

 

By all means, if someone asks "AMD or Intel" feel free to trigger the benchmark spirit bomb, but none of this is relevant to what the OP's question actually was.  

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[sgloux3470]

 

just going to leave this here..

 

 

 

 

This is because when people benchmark this stuff, they have very shitty methodology.

 

It's obvious that Dying Light has serious variance in framerate and GPU utilization because it has CPU issues on everything.  Just look at the horrible minimum framerates.  All it would take is looking at the sky slightly longer on the i3 to make the average framerate higher.

 

Canned benchmarks are the only way to do this properly.  Even then they're often plagued with loading dips and absolute minimum framerates (which are always low... because loading..)  The only benchmark utility that I've seen do it properly was Bioshock Infinite. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

 

Stop with the god damn Intel vs AMD war. Chances are OP isn't running their 1.3GHz Athlon 64 with the GTX 570. They want an AMD CPU for a reason, possibly as a secondary rig to see what their new chips are like. How do you know that OP hasn't had ten Intel PCs since his Athlon 64?

 

You guys are shitting up a thread with unrelated bullshit.  He's going to pair it with a  570, it doesn't matter what CPU he uses.  You even said so yourself about the GTX 670 earlier in the thread.  Atleast recommend him a fucking i3 which is far closer to his price bracket and performance tier.

 

By all means, if someone asks "AMD or Intel" feel free to trigger the benchmark spirit bomb, but none of this is relevant to what the OP's question actually was.  

 

 

Because NO ONE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY PUTS A BETTER GPU IN THE SAME SYSTEM EVER...

Of course it matters!

Sure,.. he could get the FX series,.. with a midrange GPU and be fine,.. I stated this earlier...

But once he throws in something substantially better like a 970 or a 290X, he's boned chasing the TOPend performance that he SHOULD be getting.

[Aniallation]

hey look!! another one who prefer to ignore evidence and benchmarks that we provide!

evidence and benchmarks that are relevant to absolutely nothing 

[Aniallation]

Because NO ONE PUTS A BETTER GPU IN A SYSTEM EVER...

How do you know OP doesn't have a main system with 5960X and quad-SLI 980s? You don't, and neither do I. However instead of starting another shitstorm of AMD vs Intel, there's something more productive called answer the question OP asked.

[RazerZ]

Education. It's nice to have. The whole AMD VS Intel debate came up since the OP listed the 8350 as one of his choices. If he can get a better processor for his intended use that happens to be Intel, why not?

[Aniallation]

The CPU's I have lined up for u guys to rate are. 

 

FX-6300

FX-8350

A10-6800K

A8-6600K

Will use the computer with an GTX570 Graphics Card. And Boot SSD + HDD for storage and 8 GB of RAM.

Will use my computer for light gaming at a 1080p monitor. Running games like WoW, Skyrim, Borderlands, Portal, Thief, Dying Light and such. 

 

If you're going to be running a graphics card forget about the A8/A10, because you'll never use the integrated graphics that they have. The 6300 and 8350 have similar single-threaded performance for games like Borderlands and Portal, however for more modern AAA games, especially those launching on DX12, you'll see a performance boost with the 8350. 

 

However on a limited budget, I'd rather get a 6300 + a good motherboard, then an 8350 and a crappy motherboard that'll die in a year.

 

Again this is assuming that you're already familiar with the benefits of Intel for gaming.