FX-6300 or Intel i3 4150?

[Paul_VB]

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($168.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg) 

Total: $213.48

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I know that the case against using the AM3+ platform is pretty strong here, but here's my best defense for AMD

 

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Micro Center) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($53.88 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $197.86

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Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-05 11:53 EST-0500

[79wjd]

 

I know that the case against using the AM3+ platform is pretty strong here, but here's my best defense for AMD

 

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($28.99 @ Micro Center) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($53.88 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $197.86

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An i5 will still perform better in gaming. Plus, he won't be able to do much overclocking on a mATX am3+ board, so the i5 ends up being even better. 

[MachineKillx]

This is my AMD fx-6300 build

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cGMdgs

[Paul_VB]

An i5 will still perform better in gaming. Plus, he won't be able to do much overclocking on a mATX am3+ board, so the i5 ends up being even better. 

 

 

true, but with this setup you get the hyper 212 evo. the gigabyte board i picked is apparently a not-terrible overclocker what with its 8pin cpu power connector

 

also, will skylake use the 1150 socket? or will he have to buy a whole new mobo when he upgrades anyway?

 

 

This is my AMD fx-6300 build

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cGMdgs

 

slap on an aftermarket cooler for both setups.

[i_build_nanosuits]

true, but with this setup you get the hyper 212 evo.

 

also, will skylake use the 1150 socket? or will he have to buy a whole new mobo when he upgrades anyway?

slap on an aftermarket cooler for both setups.

the stock intel heatsink if perfectly fine to use with a locked CPU...and it will outperform FX in gaming regardless of the clockspeed...also Broadwell will be socket 1150 and the ''worthy'' upgrade CPU for future gaming if he wan't more performance is already out ther and it is called the i7-4790K and it run's at 4.4ghz out of the box..

[79wjd]

true, but with this setup you get the hyper 212 evo.

 

also, will skylake use the 1150 socket? or will he have to buy a whole new mobo when he upgrades anyway?

 

 

 

slap on an aftermarket cooler for both setups.

Having a hyper 212 is really irrelevant since the only difference will be that it will perform quieter than a stock cooler.

 

Skylake will be a different socket, but theres really no reason to upgrade from a Haswell i5 to a Skylake i5/i7 -- keep in mind, even sandy bridge i5s can still keep up in gaming just fine. 

[MachineKillx]

I think I'm just going to stick with the i3 just for this year, next chrstmas I will get the i5

[79wjd]

I think I'm just going to stick with the i3 just for this year, next chrstmas I will get the i5

Well, the decision is yours, but going to an i5 and a cheaper board makes much more sense, its not like Broadwell will be a worthwhile upgrade from Haswell anyway, and a Haswell i5-4460 will last you years unless you plan on upgrading to SLI 1080s/1180s (i.e. a 4460 won't bottleneck any normal system, and considering you seem to be on a very tight budget I don't see you splurging for SLI 980s). 

[Paul_VB]

Well, the decision is yours, but going to an i5 and a cheaper board makes much more sense. 

agreed. even though ive been advocating for AMD, the i5 will simply be a better option

[MachineKillx]

Well, the decision is yours, but going to an i5 and a cheaper board makes much more sense, its not like Broadwell will be a worthwhile upgrade from Haswell anyway, and a Haswell i5-4460 will last you years unless you plan on upgrading to SLI 1080s/1180s (i.e. a 4460 won't bottleneck any normal system, and considering you seem to be on a very tight budget I don't see you splurging for SLI 980s). 

yeah, but my budget is about 650 with tax, so I think I really only need the i3 today, and then get a i5, beacause if i get a 50$ board, it will still be off my budget...

[Paul_VB]

Having a hyper 212 is really irrelevant since the only difference will be that it will perform quieter than a stock cooler.

 

Skylake will be a different socket, but theres really no reason to upgrade from a Haswell i5 to a Skylake i5/i7 -- keep in mind, even sandy bridge i5s can still keep up in gaming just fine. 

If he goes with the 8320, the aftermarket cooler would help a TON with overclocking. although my point might not matter, seeing as the OP said he isnt that into overcoling anyway

 

8320 build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tyrfkL

[79wjd]

yeah, but my budget is about 650 with tax, so I think I really only need the i3 today, and then get a i5, beacause if i get a 50$ board, it will still be off my budget...

Save up for an extra day. It's well worth it considering it saves you from buying a $130~ cpu you're just going to replace. 

 

If he goes with the 8320, the aftermarket cooler would help a TON with overclocking. although my point might not matter, seeing as the OP said he isnt that into overcoling anyway 

 

8320 build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tyrfkL

He won't be overclocking an 8320 on a mATX AM3+ board. Plus a locked i5 > overclock 8320 in gaming. 

[Paul_VB]

Save up for an extra day. It's well worth it considering it saves you from buying a $130~ cpu you're just going to replace. 

 

He won't be overclocking an 8320 on a mATX AM3+ board. Plus a locked i5 > overclock 8320 in gaming. 

I've heard some pretty decent reviews on this board with regards to overclocking. IDK for sure how well this board will handle an 8320.

 

the i5 probably is better for gaming, but i just thought i'd put an AMD option on the table

[Faceman]

If your priority is gaming, buy an i3.  Its that simple, no need to argue about this.  The i3 is the superior chip for gaming.  There has been a grand total of ONE game that runs better when more cores are thrown at it.

 

The i3 gives him much better day one performance, without overclocking.  Also, on mATX, even the FX will have trouble running at stock unless he buys a more expensive motherboard with excellent VRM phase design.  There is no upgrade path with FX, and it will bottleneck high end GPUs.

 

Buy the i3 + mATX motherboard:

 

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CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($111.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $157.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[IMPERIUS]

Great and I bought an i3-4130 just the other day when the guys here convinced me to take the i3 instead of the fx 6300

[Scarymonkeys]

The FX-6300 doesn't have nearly as good of an upgrade path as the i3 4150. As both aren't that great for gaming anymore, I would pick the i3 out of the two. I actually own the i3, and it plays Minecraft with integrated graphics 4400 on a 1920 x 1080 at a stable 45-60 frames per second with really nice settings. The i3 is only a dual-core, (Hyperthreading makes it a quad-core.) but again, better upgrade path and I believe it's faster than the 6300. (Not sure.)
(I have never tested any of these parts, and can therefore never guarantee no faults.)

[Scarymonkeys]

yeah, but my budget is about 650 with tax, so I think I really only need the i3 today, and then get a i5, beacause if i get a 50$ board, it will still be off my budget...

If you're going to get an i5, then you might as well not get the i3. Save more money so that none is wasted. You'll get it quicker. 

[IMPERIUS]

The i3 will be better at mobas

[wrath]

get the 6300

[Aniallation]

If your priority is gaming, buy an i3.  Its that simple, no need to argue about this.  The i3 is the superior chip for gaming.  There has been a grand total of ONE game that runs better when more cores are thrown at it.

And that ONE game is?

 

Battlefield 3/4?

Crysis 3?

Watch_Dogs?

The Crew?

ARMA?

Advanced Warfare?

[Scarymonkeys]

And that ONE game is?

 

Battlefield 3/4?

Crysis 3?

Watch_Dogs?

The Crew?

ARMA?

Advanced Warfare?

The i3 will play most of those games..

[Aniallation]

true, but with this setup you get the hyper 212 evo. the gigabyte board i picked is apparently a not-terrible overclocker what with its 8pin cpu power connector

 

also, will skylake use the 1150 socket? or will he have to buy a whole new mobo when he upgrades anyway?

Honestly if you're not overclocking save some bucks and grab a Zalman CNPS5X.

 

Skylake will use LGA 1151, and therefore requires a new mobo.

[Aniallation]

The i3 will play most of those games..

I'm not saying it won't. I'm saying that there's more then one game that uses >4 cores/threads, unlike what the guy I replied to was trying to impose.

[MachineKillx]

I'm not saying it won't. I'm saying that there's more then one game that uses >4 cores/threads, unlike what the guy I replied to was trying to impose.

the i3 still has 4 threads, so it will still try to run these games

[Faceman]

And that ONE game is?

 

Battlefield 3/4?

Crysis 3?

Watch_Dogs?

The Crew?

ARMA?

Advanced Warfare?

Dragon Age Inquisition

 

All of those games you listed run better on an i3 than an FX6, some more than others.  Just because a game can use more threads when thrown at it, doesn't mean performance improves.