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UE RM, Audeze WHAT?

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Guys i need your help, the help from he community of linus techtips. 

 

THE big question here is this;

 

UE RM 

or

the

Audeze LCD 2

 

both are at a reasonable price and a great sound quality. 

 

I am currently working on se535s, and these are awesome but I would like to move on to something more big. 

 

What should i Get and why?

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What's UE RM? Ultimate Ears? RM?

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What is Google? A search engine?

 

Have you tried searching 'UE RM' in google? I'm guessing you haven't, because yapping around in protest is sooooo much easier, right?

 

Here, I'm feeling generous, I'll do you a favour:

 

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OP asking whether it's better to get Audeze LCD-2 or enrolling in a university, right?

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UE RM is Ultimate Ears - Reference Monitor, aka the one Logan reviewed today.

 

Yeah, worked out the UE. I thought the RM was something other than reference monitor, because that'd be comparing an IEM to a full sized headphone. 

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If you're using them for music production or something along those lines, UERM.  But if it's just for music listening in your room and gaming, I'd say the LCD-2.

If you're very young and have a thin neck, the LCD-2 will hurt your neck though, I'm 21 and a big guy with a tough neck, and after a few hours they'd start to hurt my neck. ( They weigh 21 ounces )

(If you actually are 14 as your profile suggests, I recommend staying away from the LCD-2, they're definitely going to hurt your neck)

 

 

The good thing about the UERM is you can take it with you if you leave the house etc, not so much with the LCD-2.

 

Keep in mind the UERM is designed to be virtually completely neutral sounding, and the LCD-2 is more centered around the mids+bass with a slightly rolled off treble.

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If you're using them for music production or something along those lines, UERM.  But if it's just for music listening in your room and gaming, I'd say the LCD-2.

If you're very young and have a thin neck, the LCD-2 will hurt your neck though, I'm 21 and a big guy with a tough neck, and after a few hours they'd start to hurt my neck. ( They weigh 21 ounces )

(If you actually are 14 as your profile suggests, I recommend staying away from the LCD-2, they're definitely going to hurt your neck)

 

 

The good thing about the UERM is you can take it with you if you leave the house etc, not so much with the LCD-2.

 

Keep in mind the UERM is designed to be virtually completely neutral sounding, and the LCD-2 is more centered around the mids+bass with a slightly rolled off treble.

 

You paid a $1000 for IEM's??

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You paid a $1000 for IEM's??

Huh?

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Huh?

 

The Audeze LCD-2, there a $1000

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The Audeze LCD-2, there a $1000

They aren't IEMs, they're full size headphones.

I had em for a while, I paid 800 and just recently sold them for 800 as well, so I could upgrade to hd800

(which I bought used for 900)

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They aren't IEMs, they're full size headphones.

 

Still, that's a lot of money for headphones

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Still, that's a lot of money for headphones

Headphones built this well last a LOT longer than computers and have amazing resell value, it's not really that much in the scope of things.

People buy 3000$ pcs that aren't very good a few years later, while top of the line headphones are still very very relative and don't really decrease in value much.

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Headphones built this well last a LOT longer than computers and have amazing resell value, it's not really that much in the scope of things.

People buy 3000$ pcs that aren't very good a few years later, while top of the line headphones are still very very relative and don't really decrease in value

 

Headphones decrease in value, right??

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Headphones decrease in value, right??

Cheaper ones yes, expensive ones usually resell for around 70-80% of their new price unless their MSRP is decreased.

The thing with other hobbies like cars and PCs, say you spend 3000 on a gaming pc, in a couple years you may need to upgrade it and the parts you bought for 3k will be practically worthless.

Same thing with cars, a new one is 30k for instance, once it's a year old, way less...

You get my point atleast.

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Cheaper ones yes, expensive ones usually resell for around 70-80% of their new price unless their MSRP is decreased.

 

 

Speak for yourself. The Orpheus, when it first launched was 16 grand, I think? Now, the used/2nd hand goes for 20 grand up. 

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Speak for yourself. The Orpheus, when it first launched was 16 grand, I think? Now, the used/2nd hand goes for 20 grand up.

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Still, that's a lot of money for headphones

 

There's no exact number and/or threshold for hobby stuffs. Every products got cheaper version, and pricey version. We got $20 headphones, and we got 20 grand headphone (Orpheus, HE90, google it)

 

Same like bikes, some goes for $100, some goes for $5000

Digital camera? Google the price of Leica and Hasselblad

Billiard/pool? Some custom cues go above $5000. 5 grand up for 2 pieces of wood

Car? We got cheap 5-6 grand cars, and of course there are also few millions ones. 

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UE RM is

Ultimate Ear Reference Monitor 

 

basically a very very falt IEM

 

the most true? yeah the TRUE sound you will get

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If you're asking whether to get UE RM or LCD2 and you don't even know LCD2 is a headphone, you might wanna reconsider a hasty purchase.

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If you're using them for music production or something along those lines, UERM.  But if it's just for music listening in your room and gaming, I'd say the LCD-2.

If you're very young and have a thin neck, the LCD-2 will hurt your neck though, I'm 21 and a big guy with a tough neck, and after a few hours they'd start to hurt my neck. ( They weigh 21 ounces )

(If you actually are 14 as your profile suggests, I recommend staying away from the LCD-2, they're definitely going to hurt your neck)

 

 

The good thing about the UERM is you can take it with you if you leave the house etc, not so much with the LCD-2.

 

Keep in mind the UERM is designed to be virtually completely neutral sounding, and the LCD-2 is more centered around the mids+bass with a slightly rolled off treble.

 

Well i have used 535s, their bass is so neutral and thinking that if it goes more flat than the 535s, I don't think the references are not for me, I really don't worry about the weight but like ugh... I really don't know, I am going to trey the LCD-2 tomorow lets jsut see how the sound stage fits me. I will be post the review after i guy one after coosing one that is.

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Well i have used 535s, their bass is so neutral and thinking that if it goes more flat than the 535s, I don't think the references are not for me, I really don't worry about the weight but like ugh... I really don't know, I am going to trey the LCD-2 tomorow lets jsut see how the sound stage fits me. I will be post the review after i guy one after coosing one that is.

 

 

The weight won't bug you at first when you try them on, but if you plan on wearing them for a couple hours, your neck will definitely start to bug you.

 

I got sick of it so I sold them to buy HD800's instead.

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The weight won't bug you at first when you try them on, but if you plan on wearing them for a couple hours, your neck will definitely start to bug you.

 

I got sick of it so I sold them to buy HD800's instead.

Time to start working out those neck muscles.

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Well i have used 535s, their bass is so neutral and thinking that if it goes more flat than the 535s, I don't think the references are not for me, I really don't worry about the weight but like ugh... I really don't know, I am going to trey the LCD-2 tomorow lets jsut see how the sound stage fits me. I will be post the review after i guy one after coosing one that is.

 

Problem is, you're comparing 2 different things, IEM and full sized headphone. It's like saying, should I buy a jacket or a T-shirt. You wear both on your upper body, yes, but they're different things, with different purposes in mind. 

 

IEMs are designed mainly for portability and simplicity of use, while full sized headphones are for stationary, relaxed uses. Moreover, like Lays said, the RM is aimed at music producers who are looking for as neutral sound reproduction as possible, while LCD-2 got distinct sound signature. Most probably you'll find 1 that's more 'fun', be it neutral, or colored sound. 

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