LTT 3DMark Thread

[Raudi_]

I'll admit, I am tempted to look into getting a 770 just for overclocking since you seem to be able to get them pretty far. What manufacturer are they?

Nvidia purchased 1 at best buy then the second from Nvidia Directly.

[Najuno]

I'll admit, I am tempted to look into getting a 770 just for overclocking since you seem to be able to get them pretty far. What manufacturer are they?

 

I've always wondered about that, is it possible to have the core clock so high that you need to throottle back the memory to push it further? Because that seems like an issue if you ran a stock BIOS and could somehow get to that point

Sure this happens all the time with CPUs. Usually when you go up too high the internal Voltage will not be sufficient anymore to hold up high clock speeds and high memory speeds. But you never go below stock setting of the RAM. Most OCer go to stock RAM settings for high CPU OCs. When I go up to 4.7GHz on my 5960X I run with 2133MHz on my DDR4.

[TheElt]

Nvidia purchased 1 at best buy then the second from Nvidia Directly.

Huh, surprised that they have beefy enough power delivery to run those cards like you do. There's something else added to the bottom of my "To Buy" list.

 

Sure this happens all the time with CPUs. Usually when you go up too high the internal Voltage will not be sufficient anymore to hold up high clock speeds and high memory speeds. But you never go below stock setting of the RAM. Most OCer go to stock RAM settings for high CPU OCs. When I go up to 4.7GHz on my 5960X I run with 2133MHz on my DDR4.

I'll try and remember all this for when I eventually get to overclocking my CPU, I mean, how hard can it be?

[Najuno]

Huh, surprised that they have beefy enough power delivery to run those cards like you do. There's something else added to the bottom of my "To Buy" list.

 

I'll try and remember all this for when I eventually get to overclocking my CPU, I mean, how hard can it be?

For your CPU? Easy, get good thermal compound a good cooler and then just adjust the multiplier until it gets unstable in benchmarks . And then raise the Voltage a bit and go higher until it won´t go higher but not higher than 1.35V . Unless you have a good custom loop. More Voltage = more heat but actually when having a good cooler nothing will happen.

I can go up to 1.65V on the CPU and it´s no problem temp wise.

[Raudi_]

Huh, surprised that they have beefy enough power delivery to run those cards like you do. There's something else added to the bottom of my "To Buy" list.

So am I at times. but do keep the VRM's ice cold when I bench though.

[TheElt]

For your CPU? Easy, get good thermal compound a good cooler and then just adjust the multiplier until it gets unstable in benchmarks . And then raise the Voltage a bit and go higher until it won´t go higher but not higher than 1.35V . Unless you have a good custom loop. More Voltage = more heat but actually when having a good cooler nothing will happen.

I can go up to 1.65V on the CPU and it´s no problem temp wise.

Well I'm going to look into making a custom loop but I'd rather not open up the top vents on my R5 since it kills the acoustics, there's room for a 280 in the front with the HDD cages out and a 240 in the bottom, going off the recommendations for radiators in the watercooling section that should be enough for 2 GPUs and a single CPU with an overclock, if I'm not mistaken. If not I can throw in more rads just for the overclock, see how far I can push it

 

So am I at times. but do keep the VRM's ice cold when I bench though.

I'd be tempted to bench my machine outside and see if I can get the 760 any higher because it seems to get more stable the colder it runs (God bless that Windforce cooler and 59c load temps) but I don't have the kit to be able to move my PC outside, even though it gets pretty cold. Going to try leaving my window open while I'm at college to cool my room down as much as possible, and see where I go from there.

[Najuno]

Well I'm going to look into making a custom loop but I'd rather not open up the top vents on my R5 since it kills the acoustics, there's room for a 280 in the front with the HDD cages out and a 240 in the bottom, going off the recommendations for radiators in the watercooling section that should be enough for 2 GPUs and a single CPU with an overclock, if I'm not mistaken. If not I can throw in more rads just for the overclock, see how far I can push it

 

I'd be tempted to bench my machine outside and see if I can get the 760 any higher because it seems to get more stable the colder it runs (God bless that Windforce cooler and 59c load temps) but I don't have the kit to be able to move my PC outside, even though it gets pretty cold. Going to try leaving my window open while I'm at college to cool my room down as much as possible, and see where I go from there.

Actually a 280 and a 240 rad aren´t that much, but your CPU has pretty low TDP so you´ll be alright. And the GTX970 won´t get that hot so yeah that setup might work out but there is no such thing as overkill. I run a seperate CPU loop with a 240x65mm rad with special high static pressure fans and a D5 pump. My GPU loop (will be back when Titan hits the market GTX980 was not woreth it for me) has a 9x120mm monster radiator with 4x180mm high static pressure fans and a D5 pump with almost 2.5 liters of fluid. The colder the better.

[TheElt]

Actually a 280 and a 240 rad aren´t that much, but your CPU has pretty low TDP so you´ll be alright. And the GTX970 won´t get that hot so yeah that setup might work out but there is no such thing as overkill. I run a seperate CPU loop with a 240x65mm rad with special high static pressure fans and a D5 pump. My GPU loop (will be back when Titan hits the market GTX980 was not woreth it for me) has a 9x120mm monster radiator with 4x180mm high static pressure fans and a D5 pump with almost 2.5 liters of fluid. The colder the better.

So what rads would you recommend for a 4690k with an overclock and dual 970s also overclocked?V not sure what model 970 I'll go for yet, want to decide which will overclock the best, and since the voltage in my card's BIOS is greyed out, I'm not 100% on going with Gigabyte again eventhough they bin their GPUs, but I need to do research first

[JustCallMeVlad]

So what rads would you recommend for a 4690k with an overclock and dual 970s also overclocked?V not sure what model 970 I'll go for yet, want to decide which will overclock the best, and since the voltage in my card's BIOS is greyed out, I'm not 100% on going with Gigabyte again eventhough they bin their GPUs, but I need to do research first

 

 

Good quality 360 would be fine. 

[Najuno]

So what rads would you recommend for a 4690k with an overclock and dual 970s also overclocked?V not sure what model 970 I'll go for yet, want to decide which will overclock the best, and since the voltage in my card's BIOS is greyed out, I'm not 100% on going with Gigabyte again eventhough they bin their GPUs, but I need to do research first

That really depends on your case and on the space you have to spare for radiators and fans. First of all a push-pull config is not very benficial at all. I run everything in pull and that´s more than sufficient when you have the right fans. Then it´s depending on the Watts you want to integrade into the loop and when it comes to radiators it strongly depends on the FPI (Finnes Per Inch), the more the better and the thickness of the rad. A 360x80mm with the right fans is able to cool down 300-350Watts. The math is 100 Watts per 120mm radiator surface but that´s based upon 20mm radiator thickness. So if you go and take a thicker you can add a couple of more watts. The 240mm and 280mm are able to cool roughly 440Watts which is somewhat okay but OCed both of your GTX970s and the CPU to max nothing that I´d recommend unless you can really add at least 1 thick radiator then it will be sufficient.

[JustCallMeVlad]

I'm going to be out of the game for a week. 2nd Classy wont bench. It'll game just fine but no benching whatsoever. Time to RMA

[Najuno]

I'm going to be out of the game for a week. 2nd Classy wont bench. It'll game just fine but no benching whatsoever. Time to RMA

Shit sorry to hear that! RMA that baby and come back with new results man .

[JustCallMeVlad]

Shit sorry to hear that! RMA that baby and come back with new results man .

 

 

No more LN2 bios on air. Wish EK would release the damn full cover blocks already 

[Raudi_]

I'm going to be out of the game for a week. 2nd Classy wont bench. It'll game just fine but no benching whatsoever. Time to RMA

The price of our fun.

Just an idea but if its cold out side were you are right now get some of that cool air flowing through your case and over the GPU's to help the VRMs run cooler, it will help a decent amount with benching at higher voltages.

[JustCallMeVlad]

The price of our fun.

Just an idea but if its cold out side were you are right now get some of that cool air flowing through your case and over the GPU's to help the VRMs run cooler, it will help a decent amount with benching at higher voltages.

 

 

My scores are with a Fan blowing cold air directly onto the cards in a window. Cards were at 15C with my initial testing this way. I believe this happened the other day when the Classified tuner went alittle crazy and pushed 1.65v through card 2 and the fan didnt kick on till it hit 60C. Stupid feature 

[Raudi_]

My scores are with a Fan blowing cold air directly onto the cards in a window. Cards were at 15C with my initial testing this way. I believe this happened the other day when the Classified tuner went alittle crazy and pushed 1.65v through card 2 and the fan didnt kick on till it hit 60C. Stupid feature 

Damn I would just disable the Zero fan mode by locking the fan speeds at 100% I do for every card I bench to get rid of those issues, the Classy tuner though is an unfortunate bug which might of damaged the card causing it to not Bench anymore.

[Najuno]

Damn I would just disable the Zero fan mode by locking the fan speeds at 100% I do for every card I bench to get rid of those issues, the Classy tuner though is an unfortunate bug which might of damaged the card causing it to not Bench anymore.

That´s how I run all my benchmarks with profiles and 100% fan speed, no compromising at all.

But you are right, with what we do you have to be willing to pay the price for it. I almost killed one card with a too crazy BIOS last we. And I said from the beginning that the LN2 BIOS isn´t a good plan on air because it´ll fry the chip or the VRM.

Nevertheless he just needs to RMA the card get a new one (and hope on a good sample) and then go right back to OCing, it´s EVGA so no biggy .

[JustCallMeVlad]

That´s how I run all my benchmarks with profiles and 100% fan speed, no compromising at all.

But you are right, with what we do you have to be willing to pay the price for it. I almost killed one card with a too crazy BIOS last we. And I said from the beginning that the LN2 BIOS isn´t a good plan on air because it´ll fry the chip or the VRM.

Nevertheless he just needs to RMA the card get a new one (and hope on a good sample) and then go right back to OCing, it´s EVGA so no biggy .

 

 

Exactly

[Raudi_]

That´s how I run all my benchmarks with profiles and 100% fan speed, no compromising at all.

But you are right, with what we do you have to be willing to pay the price for it. I almost killed one card with a too crazy BIOS last we. And I said from the beginning that the LN2 BIOS isn´t a good plan on air because it´ll fry the chip or the VRM.

Nevertheless he just needs to RMA the card get a new one (and hope on a good sample) and then go right back to OCing, it´s EVGA so no biggy .

I still remember killing my first cards, 2 Radeon HD 5970 i got a little pushy with the voltage trying to hit 1.1GHz on air and watched the VRM's just smoke and burn. Saddest day of my life. none the less I went out and got 2 more and stayed away from OCing for a few months.

[Najuno]

Exactly

And this is reality people always debate about which brand to buy, if you are an OCer there´s only one brand for nVidia. EVGA is a strong reason to stick with an nVidia card because they are so superior in every way. And not only that their PSUs are incredible as well. The only thing where I don´t know about are mainboards. 

With the EVGA customer service, which is BTW available 24/7, I had never a problem to get my stuff done. Got once a faulty GTX780 and the guy laughed at me on the phone because I was worried and he was like, dude calm down we just send you a new sample, and everything was handled within 5 work days. They rock!

[runit3]

Benchmark: Firestrike
CPU: i5-4690k
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 970
GPU Core: 1296
GPU Memory: 2013

Score: 10325
3DMark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3980113

[WaitForMeImOnDialUp]

new cpu/motherboard and new high score

 

Benchmark: Firestrike
CPU: i7-4770k
GPU: dual 280x
Score: 13031
3DMark Link:http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5798191

[Raudi_]

So went to go read on the 3D Mark patch notes for the steam version and saw this.

[Najuno]

 

Benchmark:Fire Strike

CPU:Intel i7 4770k @4.3Ghz

GPU:EVGA GTX 980 ACX 2.0 

GPU Core:1502Mhz

GPU Memory:1993Mhz

Score:12500

3DMark Link:http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5763586?

Good Score?

 

This is a good score. You run on a 4.3GHz consumer grade i7. Your GPU has a strong result and a nice OC.

 

EDITED and UPDATED 2/7/2015.

[flibberdipper]

You know, I'm not sure what's up with my Sky Diver score. I mean, a 750Ti beat out a 7950 @ 900MHz, and throughout the bench, my G3258 never exceeded 50% utilization, but my 7950 was pinned to the wall.  :huh: