LTT 3DMark Thread

[Raudi_]

The Kingpin BIOS is nothing I would use with Air Cooling, because it is so highly modified in all its features that you can even kill the VRM of a Classified under air. Modding BIOS for GPUs that you don´t have is dangerous, I have no possibility to test the BIOS. So all I could offer you I give you a so called 'no limits' BIOS of your own BIOS, but of course if you fry the chip I won´t be hold responsible.

No mention of me I see I can do a BIOS also.

[Najuno]

No mention of me I see I can do a BIOS also.

Lol I think everybody that has been here for a while knows that you are good in BIOS modding . Your GTX770s are modded harder than my GTX980s, though I´ve got to say the higher you go in resolution and the more cards you add the more complicated a good mod gets. These cards Kepler and Maxwell OC in steps and not linear, that requires a lot more due dilligence when modding a BIOS and finding the sweet spot.

But I think you agree with me that modding a BIOS of a card you do not posess is a bit fishy unless you make just a 'no limits' version.

[Raudi_]

Lol I think everybody that has been here for a while knows that you are good in BIOS modding . Your GTX770s are modded harder than my GTX980s, though I´ve got to say the higher you go in resolution and the more cards you add the more complicated a good mod gets. These cards Kepler and Maxwell OC in steps and not linear, that requires a lot more due dilligence when modding a BIOS and finding the sweet spot.

But I think you agree with me that modding a BIOS of a card you do not posess is a bit fishy unless you make just a 'no limits' version.

Yeah, the K|NGP|N Bios is a close to no limits as it gets unless you look at the no limits BIOS thread on OCN there might be one there that they say is "No Limits". 

But I agree its much harder to mod a bios with out being able to test it yourself. 

[Najuno]

Yeah, the K|NGP|N Bios is a close to no limits as it gets unless you look at the no limits BIOS thread on OCN there might be one there that they say is "No Limits". 

But I agree its much harder to mod a bios with out being able to test it yourself. 

Actually the Kingpin BIOS is not save for using it under air, he changed the whole character of the graphics card in every way. You know changing Voltage, TDP, PD and so on is the one thing but adjusting the V table manually requires time and the right setup. I would not even want to run that with watercooling unless you have a full block, like written before the VRM is really good on a card like the Classified but even this card can overhead. Maybe I´m a bit too cautious but I get kind of allergic frying a 700USD GPU for no reason .

[Raudi_]

Actually the Kingpin BIOS is not save for using it under air, he changed the whole character of the graphics card in every way. You know changing Voltage, TDP, PD and so on is the one thing but adjusting the V table manually requires time and the right setup. I would not even want to run that with watercooling unless you have a full block, like written before the VRM is really good on a card like the Classified but even this card can overhead. Maybe I´m a bit too cautious but I get kind of allergic frying a 700USD GPU for no reason .

Even under H2O is not a safe bios for that either, its a LN2 bios. The only BIOS I can suggest him really using then is then jumping on OCN and getting a Classified BIOS from the Classy owners club. It well be safer.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1411500/official-evga-classified-owners-club

 

[Najuno]

Even under H2O is not a safe bios for that either, its a LN2 bios. The only BIOS I can suggest him really using then is then jumping on OCN and getting a Classified BIOS from the Classy owners club. It well be safer.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1411500/official-evga-classified-owners-club

 

Yes either this or ask either me or you to create him a specific BIOS based on info of his PC.

[JustCallMeVlad]

I was just frustrated with the Kingpin bios lastnight because it kept crashing the .25's. I switched to an older nvidia driver and all is well again. 

 

DICE pots are incoming for both GPU's and the CPU   and have we ever thought about switching the spreadsheet up alittle? Have multiples for 1/2/3/4 card setups?

 

Lastly i finally found an EVBOT and ordered it for less than the cost of a new right arm. 

[Raudi_]

I was just frustrated with the Kingpin bios lastnight because it kept crashing the .25's. I switched to an older nvidia driver and all is well again. 

 

DICE pots are incoming for both GPU's and the CPU   and have we ever thought about switching the spreadsheet up alittle? Have multiples for 1/2/3/4 card setups?

 

Lastly i finally found an EVBOT and ordered it for less than the cost of a new right arm. 

a EVBot ;w; I have been dying to get one.

[JustCallMeVlad]

a EVBot ;w; I have been dying to get one.

 

There's one on amazon for 300 right now  :rolleyes: I only paid 175 so i dont feel too shafted 

[Raudi_]

There's one on amazon for 300 right now  :rolleyes: I only paid 175 so i dont feel too shafted 

Holy hell I might have to jump for it then, and get me my  LN2 Pots finally. I've got a Phenom 511 x2 dying to be killed under some LN2

[Najuno]

I was just frustrated with the Kingpin bios lastnight because it kept crashing the .25's. I switched to an older nvidia driver and all is well again. 

 

DICE pots are incoming for both GPU's and the CPU   and have we ever thought about switching the spreadsheet up alittle? Have multiples for 1/2/3/4 card setups?

 

Lastly i finally found an EVBOT and ordered it for less than the cost of a new right arm. 

The spread sheet is fine as is, we don´t have enough people with multi GPU systems in this forum to blow this up like crazy. I think with all 3D Mark benchmarks of 3D Mark we should be fine, and I added a lot of stuff actually like GPU scores, CPU clocks. And if someone really wants to know the last little detail of a benchmark result there´s a link attached .

[Deathcron]

Benchmark:Fire Strike

CPU:Intel i7 4770k @4.3Ghz

GPU:EVGA GTX 980 ACX 2.0 

GPU Core:1502Mhz

GPU Memory:1993Mhz

Score:12500

3DMark Link:http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5763586?

Good Score?

[mrmonmon2]

ApolloX75, on 31 Jan 2015 - 9:12 PM, said:

FrankenPC's First Run w/ QX9650

 

Benchmark: Fire Strike

CPU: Intel Core2Extreme QX9650 @ 3.00GHz/1333MHz FSB

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 970 G1

GPU Core: 1,114 MHz

GPU Memory: 1,753 MHz

Score: 7589

3D Mark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3955618

 

For comparison here is the Core2Duo E8400 run

Benchmark: Fire Strike

CPU: Intel Core2Due E8400 @ 3.00GHz/1333MHz FSB

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 970 G1

GPU Core: 1,114 MHz

GPU Memory: 1,753 MHz

Score: 5268

3D Mark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3672067

 

The OC'ing will begin when my water loop is complete.

I think those core 2s are holding you back. A lot. Like a whole lot.

 

Najuno, on 01 Feb 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

My CPU is fine now . But for me it seems to be that the STRIX is not the best case for OCing... I´m having a hard time to push it beyond that score.

I personally think Asus gpus are shit for OCing for a 3dmark test now, your Asus card doesn't oc much, mine doesn't, anyone elses? Might be Asus silicon lottery is a Lottery within itself.

[ApolloX75]

I think those core 2s are holding you back. A lot. Like a whole lot.

Its kind of the point really.

Build

I built FrankenPC out of hardware in my skeleton bins. The fact it runs at all is amazing.

[Najuno]

I think those core 2s are holding you back. A lot. Like a whole lot.

 

I personally think Asus gpus are shit for OCing for a 3dmark test now, your Asus card doesn't oc much, mine doesn't, anyone elses? Might be Asus silicon lottery is a Lottery within itself.

My Strix is definitely not shit. I can boost up to 1577MHz stable. But I OC more on the extreme side with modded BIOS and therefore Asus wasn't the best choice but I opened the PD and TDP on the STRIX to 300W with 1.3V and it respond actually not bad I achieved 14700 points in 3D Mark FireStrike in single run.

 

It is just that my nVidia reference cards are better overall. They clock higher and the memory is clocked higher as well. The STRIX is more nice and quiet design out of the box. I will eventually use this GPU with my 5930K that I have laying around here and build a bad ass HTPC .

 

This is the price you pay with reference designs and early aftermarket design when you are into hard OCing. Either you buy this and hope for a good chip and prey that the VRM withstands the overclocks or you wait until EVGA on nVidia's side comes up with Classifieds or Hydrocoppers with binned chips and powerful custom PCBs with more phases and better VRM design.

 

EDIT: I am just not super happy with it because if I'd go for watercooling with my cards one of my reference cards would easy go over 1700MHz on boost but I run into thermal issues so I can't do that for more than 15-20 seconds then the card thottles down to 1618MHz, which it can hold up stable in loop.

[TheElt]

Benchmark: (Fire Strike, Fire Strike Extreme, Sky Diver)
CPU: i5 4690k @Stock
GPU: Gigabyte Windforce GTX760 2GB
GPU Core: 1175/1240(Boost)
GPU Memory: 1755

Score: 6288
3DMark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3978665

 

Fastest single 760 on LTT for now, feels good man.

[Raudi_]

Benchmark: (Fire Strike, Fire Strike Extreme, Sky Diver)

CPU: i5 4690k @Stock

GPU: Gigabyte Windforce GTX760 2GB

GPU Core: 1175/1240(Boost)

GPU Memory: 1755

Score: 6288

3DMark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3978665

 

Fastest single 760 on LTT for now, feels good man.

Are you on the stock heatsink fr your CPU? 

[TheElt]

Are you on the stock heatsink fr your CPU? 

Yeah. Got a few parts to buy for this build still and it hurts to not overclock, stock cooler is so damn bad.

[Raudi_]

Yeah. Got a few parts to buy for this build still and it hurts to not overclock, stock cooler is so damn bad.

Yeah get a good air cooler or a 240 AIO and you will be good, I can bench at 4.7 1.55v on my D14 just daily is pushing the cooler to its limit

[TheElt]

Yeah get a good air cooler or a 240 AIO and you will be good, I can bench at 4.7 1.55v on my D14 just daily is pushing the cooler to its limit

I'm planning on swapping out to dual 970s when I can get the cash together, so I'm contemplating going for a custom loop. Overclocking is gonna go bad first few tries, never actually had a board and CPU that can do it before.

[Raudi_]

I'm planning on swapping out to dual 970s when I can get the cash together, so I'm contemplating going for a custom loop. Overclocking is gonna go bad first few tries, never actually had a board and CPU that can do it before.

CPU wise I've got the concept down but I'm terrible at it overall. GPU wise, I have alot more time under my belt with GPU overclocking.

[TheElt]

CPU wise I've got the concept down but I'm terrible at it overall. GPU wise, I have alot more time under my belt with GPU overclocking.

From the little I know they both seem around the same, bump up the frequency until it gets unstable, add some more volts and keep going. Though with GPUs on a stock BIOS it's just max out the voltage slider and put the clocks as high as you can

[Raudi_]

From the little I know they both seem around the same, bump up the frequency until it gets unstable, add some more volts and keep going. Though with GPUs on a stock BIOS it's just max out the voltage slider and put the clocks as high as you can

Yeah I am the same with CPU stuff but I change some other things as well. GPU's I save the stock BIOS and go right to editing it and testing it on the GPU then I start overclocking.

[Najuno]

From the little I know they both seem around the same, bump up the frequency until it gets unstable, add some more volts and keep going. Though with GPUs on a stock BIOS it's just max out the voltage slider and put the clocks as high as you can

That´s actually closer for Maxwell cards than you´d think. Because they both share that feature that chip and the memory controller live of the same power delivery.

[TheElt]

Yeah I am the same with CPU stuff but I change some other things as well. GPU's I save the stock BIOS and go right to editing it and testing it on the GPU then I start overclocking.

I'll admit, I am tempted to look into getting a 770 just for overclocking since you seem to be able to get them pretty far. What manufacturer are they?

 

That´s actually closer for Maxwell cards than you´d think. Because they both share that feature that chip and the memory controller live of the same power delivery.

I've always wondered about that, is it possible to have the core clock so high that you need to throottle back the memory to push it further? Because that seems like an issue if you ran a stock BIOS and could somehow get to that point