LTT 3DMark Thread

[Raudi_]

No man Maxwell will probably have 384BIT MI. Because they already introduced the specs of the Quadro M6000. But it will have 50% more Cuda than the GTX980. Just from doing the math the GM200 will be 30-40% faster than the GM204 in the GTX980. That´s why I would not buy any highend cards at this point. AMD is also rounding things up so I´d not waste any money. That´s why I accept the 3way leaf blower and skip water cooling.

Thats unfortunate, Figured Nvidia will finally go raw power with the memory bus finally vs trying to do fancy foot work to validate using a lower memory bus that can end up being an issue when you higher and higher resolutions. But it should have been seen since they did the same thing with big Kepler.

[Najuno]

Thats unfortunate, Figured Nvidia will finally go raw power with the memory bus finally vs trying to do fancy foot work to validate using a lower memory bus that can end up being an issue when you higher and higher resolutions. But it should have been seen since they did the same thing with big Kepler.

Nah I think the 384Bit are fine. It was fine on the Titan with 6GB VRAM. The bigger L2 cache does the trick on GM200. And AMD´s 512Bit MI wasn´t really good. They had 512Bit that´s true but it was slow as hell and the memory was terrible of the Hawaii XT cards in the beginning. I bought a R9 290X... I was never more disappointed in terms OCing potential. The card sure was powerful but not stable and was clocked too hard already out of the box.

Now with HBM I really hope AMD can put something powerful up the table and use the R9 390X as a test to improve HBM in Gen2 that we will see with their next shrink to 20 or even 16NM 8GB HBM memory.

[Raudi_]

Nah I think the 384Bit are fine. It was fine on the Titan with 6GB VRAM. The bigger L2 cache does the trick on GM200. And AMD´s 512Bit MI wasn´t really good. They had 512Bit that´s true but it was slow as hell and the memory was terrible of the Hawaii XT cards in the beginning. I bought a R9 290X... I was never more disappointed in terms OCing potential. The card sure was powerful but not stable and was clocked too hard already out of the box.

Now with HBM I really hope AMD can put something powerful up the table and use the R9 390X as a test to improve HBM in Gen2 that we will see with their next shrink to 20 or even 16NM 8GB HBM memory.

Well the other big issue with Hawaii XT was the memory controller was absolute trash and was slow. But for me at least AMD cards scaled incredibly well with overclocking. But I agree with the 300 series of cards I'm looking to see how the 380 and up cards end up doing and see if the give some great OC potential with them.

[Najuno]

Well the other big issue with Hawaii XT was the memory controller was absolute trash and was slow. But for me at least AMD cards scaled incredibly well with overclocking. But I agree with the 300 series of cards I'm looking to see how the 380 and up cards end up doing and see if the give some great OC potential with them.

If the last rumors are true, then it is likely that the R9 380 series will be the Hawaii and Hawaii XT rebranded. Only the R9 390 series will have HBM. And only the R9 390X will have 4096SU. But I´m more worried about the PD. People are not able to see a difference between TDP and PD. If the card has 295W TDP I wonder what kind of PSU I´ll need (probably 1600W) for a 3way CF. That´s why I tend to go with nVidia because I know that my 1200W PSU will be good enough for 3 cards.

Yeah the MC of the Hawaii cards was trash, that and the cheap Elpida VRAM and the stock heat sink made me angry... AMD comes around with an awesome chip and then they totally screw it up with using cheap parts, just because the want to price battle all the time... they should have learned from nVidia. Highend GPU will be bought by people that can afford them or enthusiasts and they will pay what ever it takes because money is most likely no problem.

[Raudi_]

If the last rumors are true, then it is likely that the R9 380 series will be the Hawaii and Hawaii XT rebranded. Only the R9 390 series will have HBM. And only the R9 390X will have 4096SU. But I´m more worried about the PD. People are not able to see a difference between TDP and PD. If the card has 295W TDP I wonder what kind of PSU I´ll need (probably 1600W) for a 3way CF. That´s why I tend to go with nVidia because I know that my 1200W PSU will be good enough for 3 cards.

Yeah the MC of the Hawaii cards was trash, that and the cheap Elpida VRAM and the stock heat sink made me angry... AMD comes around with an awesome chip and then they totally screw it up with using cheap parts, just because the want to price battle all the time... they should have learned from nVidia. Highend GPU will be bought by people that can afford them or enthusiasts and they will pay what ever it takes because money is most likely no problem.

Well if your me for an Nvidia system I would still need a 1600W PSU, even a 1200W would be cutting it very close. Right now I hit 746W under load with just running a 4.2GHz OC on my CPU and my GPU's at benching clock speeds. Haswell seems to lose all power efficiency as soon as its overclocked its kinda annoying.

[Najuno]

Well if your me for an Nvidia system I would still need a 1600W PSU, even a 1200W would be cutting it very close. Right now I hit 746W under load with just running a 4.2GHz OC on my CPU and my GPU's at benching clock speeds. Haswell seems to lose all power efficiency as soon as its overclocked its kinda annoying.

I can tell you this much with all my modded BIOS and 3 cards with a 4.7GHz 5960X I never exceed 700W with 3 cards in gaming an peak in benchmarking was 867W. I could maybe stretch that more with water cooling, but Maxwell does definitely run a lot more efficient than any other GPU.

[Raudi_]

I can tell you this much with all my modded BIOS and 3 cards with a 4.7GHz 5960X I never exceed 700W with 3 cards in gaming an peak in benchmarking was 867W. I could maybe stretch that more with water cooling, but Maxwell does definitely run a lot more efficient than any other GPU.

Yeah thats the only nice thing I see with maxwell right now, Kepler still wins for raw CUDA performance which I still need and use daily.

[Najuno]

Yeah thats the only nice thing I see with maxwell right now, Kepler still wins for raw CUDA performance which I still need and use daily.

Yeah I guess that´s why the brought up for the professionals the GK210 and skip that with Maxwell. Raw Cuda king is Kepler.

[Raudi_]

Yeah I guess that´s why the brought up for the professionals the GK210 and skip that with Maxwell. Raw Cuda king is Kepler.

Yeah, I might saw screw it though and get Maxwell this year since my GPU E-Peen is still not satisfied,

[Najuno]

Yeah, I might saw screw it though and get Maxwell this year since my GPU E-Peen is still not satisfied,

Maxwell is worth it my friend. It truly is, if you are up for awesome OC potential paired with very good gaming potential. This year I will be amazing for hardware. After my next 2 builts and new GPUs the next big thing will be Asus´s next RoG monitor. Man 4K with IPS and G-Sync.

[JustCallMeVlad]

I love people who always wait. There's no point. Buy buy buy

[menthuslayer]

I love people who always wait. There's no point. Buy buy buy

Yeah, waiting kinda depends in my opinion.  If you're building a whole new rig, then waiting a month or two for a new gen makes sense.  I was designing DOOM, and was planning SLI 780ti's, and then 980's got announced, I waited an extra month and a half for 2 980's.  I wouldn't have waited more than 2 months.  Especially with EVGA Stepup, it kinda protects you incase you buy a card that immediately becomes outdated.  If your just upgrading cards, then waiting can totally be worth it, if you have functional cards, then I feel like you just kinda wait until you're happy with the performance/technology boost you know.  If I had just been upgrading, I probably would have waited for the KingPins, but I didn't want to put off my whole rig.  It kinda sucks how they launch the ref cards and then the better cards.  I would have spent more to buy KingPins if they had been out right away, but I spent less because they weren't.  Dunno just my 2 sense on the matter.

[Najuno]

Yeah, waiting kinda depends in my opinion.  If you're building a whole new rig, then waiting a month or two for a new gen makes sense.  I was designing DOOM, and was planning SLI 780ti's, and then 980's got announced, I waited an extra month and a half for 2 980's.  I wouldn't have waited more than 2 months.  Especially with EVGA Stepup, it kinda protects you incase you buy a card that immediately becomes outdated.  If your just upgrading cards, then waiting can totally be worth it, if you have functional cards, then I feel like you just kinda wait until you're happy with the performance/technology boost you know.  If I had just been upgrading, I probably would have waited for the KingPins, but I didn't want to put off my whole rig.  It kinda sucks how they launch the ref cards and then the better cards.  I would have spent more to buy KingPins if they had been out right away, but I spent less because they weren't.  Dunno just my 2 sense on the matter.

I would have bought better cards than my ref designs, but I bought at release day and well that´s what you get. I don´t find it very surprising that companies like EVGA or GALAX hold back their Classiffied or HoF designs for 2 reasons. First of all they want to use their sponsored top dog OCers KingPin and 8Pack as marketing moves advertising those highend cards and showing the whole world what this design is capable of (most people don´t even realize they use LN2) and of course they hold these cards back a while to ensure that their top dogs get the best OCing results and break world records.

If people like you and me could buy those cards on day one slap a LN2 pot on the 5960X and on the GPU and break world records that would not look so good for the sponsored guys.

[JustCallMeVlad]

Yeah, waiting kinda depends in my opinion. If you're building a whole new rig, then waiting a month or two for a new gen makes sense. I was designing DOOM, and was planning SLI 780ti's, and then 980's got announced, I waited an extra month and a half for 2 980's. I wouldn't have waited more than 2 months. Especially with EVGA Stepup, it kinda protects you incase you buy a card that immediately becomes outdated. If your just upgrading cards, then waiting can totally be worth it, if you have functional cards, then I feel like you just kinda wait until you're happy with the performance/technology boost you know. If I had just been upgrading, I probably would have waited for the KingPins, but I didn't want to put off my whole rig. It kinda sucks how they launch the ref cards and then the better cards. I would have spent more to buy KingPins if they had been out right away, but I spent less because they weren't. Dunno just my 2 sense on the matter.

Kingpin's aren't worth it unless you're using LN2

[alifirefx]

Benchmark: Fire Strike
CPU: i5 3570k
GPU: GTX 980
GPU Core: 1530
GPU Memory: 1714

Score: 11880

 

my first ever test this score  ok? http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/5917267

[menthuslayer]

Is no one updating the spreadsheets on the main page?  I posted my 2 scores a few days ago, and they haven't made it into the spreadsheet, just curious, maybe "the person" has been busy or not around or something.

[Najuno]

Is no one updating the spreadsheets on the main page?  I posted my 2 scores a few days ago, and they haven't made it into the spreadsheet, just curious, maybe "the person" has been busy or not around or something.

Yes it will be updated, and the person that updates the sheet is me. Don´t worry I was busy as hell lately.

[Najuno]

Alright folks, sorry for the delay but my work schedule is crazy these days and it took me a bit longer to update our 3D Mark spread sheet as usual.

 

EDITED and UPDATED 2/15/2015.

[JustCallMeVlad]

Looks at spreadsheet,

Still number 1 with 2 way sli

Happy man

[Najuno]

Looks at spreadsheet,

Still number 1 with 2 way sli

Happy man

Just for FireStrike . In FS Extreme or ULTRA we have a new 2way king .

[JustCallMeVlad]

Just for FireStrike . In FS Extreme or ULTRA we have a new 2way king .

Classified waterblocks are being released on Tuesday. Give me till the end of the week

[Najuno]

Classified waterblocks are being released on Tuesday. Give me till the end of the week

If you are lucky enough to get some of the first badge . Still I feel like this comes way to late, see even if you can take the crown in 4-6 weeks you will get roflstomped with the new GPUs from AMD or nVidia. It took EK too long IMHO.

I´m already excited about the new cards and how many people will buy them here in the forums. I will see what the aftermarket design will bring this time before I buy, I don´t think I´ll buy right away on launch day this time.

[JustCallMeVlad]

If you are lucky enough to get some of the first badge . Still I feel like this comes way to late, see even if you can take the crown in 4-6 weeks you will get roflstomped with the new GPUs from AMD or nVidia. It took EK too long IMHO.

I´m already excited about the new cards and how many people will buy them here in the forums. I will see what the aftermarket design will bring this time before I buy, I don´t think I´ll buy right away on launch day this time.

If I don't I'm going to be pretty pissed and just strap on the dice pots I bought for them and go crazy.

[runit3]

Benchmark: Fire Strike
CPU: i7-5960X
GPU: GTX 970 (Gigabyte G1)
GPU Core: 1328
GPU Memory: 1853

Score: 11398
3DMark Link: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4089386

[alifirefx]