Haswell-E review (hardwarecanucks)

[Kevinkt]

Only 18 months ago, Intel’s enthusiast platform was on the chopping block. While X79 and Sandy Bridge-E did well and Ivy Bridge-E was on the horizon, the desktop PC market was in a downturn and the continuity of interest for ultra-high-end platforms was in doubt. And yet here we are reviewing Haswell-E and Intel’s first 8-core 16-thread enthusiast processor, the Core i7-5960X. So what happened? A resurgence in the desktop space has created a rapid succession of roadmap updates, adding processors like Devil’s Canyon, the Pentium Anniversary Edition and a now full Haswell-E lineup. 

 

 

Dat 8core.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not bad not bad, a little underclocked but what about games?

 

 

Keeping up with an AMD 8core but still falls behind due to clock speeds. Kinda wish they did more testing with mantle.

 full review and source

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/67240-intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-review.html

 

Newegg link http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117404

[Recon97]

Who even needs 8 cores for gaming??? 6 cores is enough(talking about future games).

[qwertywarrior]

god i hope people dont buy this for gaming ........

[deviant88]

Ill take a 4790k at < 250$ not euros(whenever thats gonna become reality) thank you.

 

Ill wait for a mainstream intel 6-core that can OC under 300$ too, im sick of 5% per generation.

Edited August 29, 2014 by deviant88

[Kevinkt]

god i hope people dont buy this for gaming ........

yeah reading all the benchmarks it's not worth it. the six core would be fine if you wanted x99

[ivhyn]

The 5820K has quite a good price in my opinion, dat six-core for 350€.

Luckily the 5960x is out of my price range because I'd render it to death

[imperialplanet]

Ill get the six core one if it OCs good

[wpirobotbuilder]

Who even needs 8 cores for gaming??? 6 cores is enough(talking about future games).

If you can overclock it to around the same frequency as the 4790K, it would perform almost identically. As it is, there is very little difference.

 

It's designed for professional use, but works well for gaming. Don't forget that people don't need watercooling equipment, they want it.

[The_Strict_Nein]

Just like to point out, Intel 8 core at 3.3GHz (I'm assuming that's the all core speed) = AMD 8 Core at 4.7GHz, with the Intel being at almost half the TDP

 

The GHz war is truly over

[kuddlesworth9419]

So no 5820k review

[Kevinkt]

Just like to point out, Intel 8 core at 3.3GHz (I'm assuming that's the all core speed) = AMD 8 Core at 4.7GHz, with the Intel being at almost half the TDP

 

The GHz war is truly over

Yep, lol and core war.

[Real_PhillBert]

I love this paragraph,

 

Finally there’s the i7-5820K which is a bit of an oddball addition since it plays the part of a bridge between Haswell-E and the less expensive Devil’s Canyon i7-4790K. While it boasts six physical cores and the potential to process up to twelve threads (a definite benefit over the i7-4820K’s 4/8 configuration), clock speeds are about 10% lower than the comparable IVB-E part. Then there are the 28 PCI-E lanes which had us scratching our collective heads since this is a layout which won’t allow buyers to run two graphics cards at full x16 speeds. Without that capability and unless having those 12 threads is an absolute necessity, gamers may as well turn towards the Z97 platform which is less expensive and whose higher end processors will run circles around Haswell-E in games.

 

I truly do not understand the hard on this place seems to have for the 5820k, to me its very much like the 4820k, they just don't make a lot of sense.

[Epitome]

I love this paragraph,

 

 

I truly do not understand the hard on this place seems to have for the 5820k, to me its very much like the 4820k, they just don't make a lot of sense.

I know, the reason you buy x99 in my opinion is for the core count and the ton of pci-e lanes you get

[The_Strict_Nein]

28 in some ways does make sense, as you can run 3 way SLI, unlike Z97 where you can only run 2 way SLI

 

You can technically run 4 way Crossfire on both 28 and 16 lanes, but I can't think of one Z97 board with 4 x16 slots.

 

The only thing you need 40 lanes for is 4 way SLI

[Apach3]

seems to me that a 5960X would be like having two underclocked 4790Ks on the same system. and to think i'm fine with just one...

 

well, at least there's M.2, SATA-Express, DDR4, and the sheer number of PCI-E lanes to look forward to.

[shawno]

Gee that thing smashes the productivity benchmarks tho! Will be interesting to see how the cheaper chip fares

[Faa]

Great, OP just links us some GPU variation benchmarks >.>

Post Single threaded benchmarks & Multithreaded, thermals info whatever

[patrickjp93]

Ill take a 4790k at < 250$ not euros(whenever thats gonna become reality) thank you.

 

Ill wait for a mainstream intel 6-core that can OC under 300$ too, im sick of 5% per generation.

You do know the max ilc is 1, right? They're sitting at .83 ipc. It's not like there's a lot of headroom to improve, and then if they reach a perfect 1 then it's about finding more exotic parallel instructions, faster clock rates, or more cores. Don't complain about 5% average across all instructions. Broadwell's 5% comes from its Floating Point and small vector multiply/divide instructions being reduced from 5 cycles to 3. That's a huge scientific computing performance gain. Almost all integer instructions are 1 or 2 cycles now. Stop bitching about 5% performance gains.

[steffen_anywhere]

Just like to point out, Intel 8 core at 3.3GHz (I'm assuming that's the all core speed) = AMD 8 Core at 4.7GHz, with the Intel being at almost half the TDP

 

The GHz war is truly over

 

And the Intel has like 4x the multithreaded performance...

[Faa]

Just like to point out, Intel 8 core at 3.3GHz (I'm assuming that's the all core speed) = AMD 8 Core at 4.7GHz, with the Intel being at almost half the TDP

 

The GHz war is truly over

Where do you see a 8350 at 4.7GHz being equal to an intel 8 core at 3.3GHz? Don't bring that hashing crap out, a 4770k getting outperformed by a richland APU makes complety no sense.

[Rekx]

Danish online hardware store komplett has just put the prices of x99 up on their site

 

https://www.komplett.dk/intel-core-i7-5930k/822373 (use currency converter)

[The_Strict_Nein]

Where do you see a 8350 at 4.7GHz being equal to an intel 8 core at 3.3GHz? Don't bring that hashing crap out, a 4770k getting outperformed by a richland APU makes complety no sense.

 It was a 9590 in the test. Look at the benchmarks. I was making reference to the benchmarks. The benchmarks clearly show that, for gaming, the traditional ground of MHz > anything else, a very low clocked CPU matches a very high clocked CPU, showing the dominance of Intel's IPC right now

 

Also, I made no reference to APU's, so I don't know where you're getting that from

[Speedbird]

Who even needs 8 cores for gaming??? 6 cores is enough(talking about future games).

Even 4 is enough. And Batllefield is pretty much the only multi-threaded game ou there, most are single.threaded.

[Kevinkt]

Danish online hardware store komplett has just put the prices of x99 up on their site

 

https://www.komplett.dk/intel-core-i7-5930k/822373 (use currency converter)

i added a newegg link to the OP

[Faa]

 It was a 9590 in the test. Look at the benchmarks. I was making reference to the benchmarks. The benchmarks clearly show that, for gaming, the traditional ground of MHz > anything else, a very low clocked CPU matches a very high clocked CPU, showing the dominance of Intel's IPC right now

They all are within margin of error, is pretty much explaining itself that they were GPU limited - reviewers arent doing anything else these days besides testing the variations of the GPU's performance. A 8350 at stock clock would have matched that 5960x, especially at 1440p and a single GPU.