Is a 8320 enough

[The_Crazy_Chicken]

building my first system and would like to go amd due to price to performance and was wondering if a 8320 wont bottleneck a r9 290

[MattP123]

What is your budget?

[Kevinkt]

No, only 120 dollar. or less cpu will "bottleneck" a high end gpu.

[CowsGoRoar]

It won't bottleneck. Even a 6300 won't bottleneck.

[Altecice]

Nope its fine they are just downlocked 8350's

[ForsakenLive]

Will it be enough? Yes.

I still prefer a locked i5 and a cheap intel motherboard, it's the same price and you get better performance.

[Enderman]

The i5 4690k is best for gaming, but if you cant afford it the 8320 will not perform too badly. You might loose 10fps in games but nothing too significant that will make it unplayable.

[The_Crazy_Chicken]

my preferred budget is $1000 $1100 absolute max not including peripherals

[Admiaczking]

the CPU doesn't matter after a certain point, that certain point probably being Pentium/Athlon. the 8320 will do nicely with a 290.

[Archangel1994]

1100 max also not including windows or does that have to be included?

[The_Crazy_Chicken]

1100 max also not including windows or does that have to be included?

 

windows not included

 

[Archangel1994]

Then you can easily fit in an I5-4690k with a strong card like an R9 290 with plenty of money to spare on the rest of the parts.

 

Edit: Where are you located?

[ZerueLX11]

If you're not trying to push 120fps on a 120hz monitor then it's OK. An 8320 with a 290 will give you a very good gaming experience.

[The_Crazy_Chicken]

Then you can easily fit in an I5-4690k with a strong card like an R9 290 with plenty of money to spare on the rest of the parts.

 

Edit: Where are you located?

 

Eastern U.S. , if you are wondering if I am close to a microcenter that is where I am planning to get my cpu/motherboard

[The_Crazy_Chicken]

If you're not trying to push 120fps on a 120hz monitor then it's OK. An 8320 with a 290 will give you a very good gaming experience.

 

That was what I was thinking

[Archangel1994]

Never mind, found out.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($88.79 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Best Buy) 

Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.00 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $1026.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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With some space to spare to maybe put into a Corsair H100i to OC the CPU

 

This build has an i5, is more than powerful enough and is quite within your budget of 1100. You won't have to ditch the 4690k for quite a while especially when you OC it to 4.2-4.5.

[patrickjp93]

 

Never mind, found out.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($88.79 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Best Buy) 

Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.00 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US) 

Total: $1026.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-27 16:30 EDT-0400

 

With some space to spare to maybe put into a Corsair H100i to OC the CPU

 

This build has an i5, is more than powerful enough and is quite within your budget of 1100. You won't have to ditch the 4690k for quite a while especially when you OC it to 4.2-4.5.

 

You might want to consider a 750-watt PSU for that after he includes fans and CPU cooler (no way in Hell he OCs on the stock cooler), just to be safe and leave the PSU some room to deteriorate before needing replacement.

[Faceman]

my preferred budget is $1000 $1100 absolute max not including peripherals

For such a large budget, go Intel. And yes an 8320 will bottleneck a 290. It won't be noticeable on a 60Hz monitor, but that doesn't mean a bottleneck is not present. Also, 8320 will limit you to the types of games you can play with the most fluidity. With that large of a budget and the best performing all-around build, you want Intel.

[Bloodkil933]

building my first system and would like to go amd due to price to performance and was wondering if a 8320 wont bottleneck a r9 290

 

For such a large budget, go Intel. And yes an 8320 will bottleneck a 290. It won't be noticeable on a 60Hz monitor, but that doesn't mean a bottleneck is not present. Also, 8320 will limit you to the types of games you can play with the most fluidity. With that large of a budget and the best performing all-around build, you want Intel.

An Intel CPU would be better going first off. Also an 8320 doesn't bottleneck a 290, so please stop feeding people lies.

[Faceman]

An Intel CPU would be better going first off. Also an 8320 doesn't bottleneck a 290, so please stop feeding people lies.

It does! You're the guy who pointed me to Firestrike. Your 8350 @ 4.8 + 290X(overclock) is scoring 9,000 when a stock i5 + 290X is scoring 10,000+, and even as high as 14,000.

 

"Firstrike: Your GPU is ready to rumble but your CPU doesn't want to play." Direct quote from your personal first-time score.

 

Indecency, your 8350 @ 4.8 and 290X doesn't even hit 100fps when a stock i5 and 290X is getting 120fps.

 

To even reach the stock performance of an i5, you have to OC an FX very high, which requires a more expensive motherboard, which makes both CPUs cost the same. Not to mention, the single core performance which is 50% better on Intel and a lot of games and programs still rely on.

 

The only reason someone should be purchasing an FX over an i5 is for video editing and rendering, or if they only have a budget of <$800 for a gaming rig, and even then, depending on the types of games being played an Intel i3 will beat an FX8.

[Bloodkil933]

It does! You're the guy who pointed me to Firestrike. Your 8350 @ 4.8 + 290X(overclock) is scoring 9,000 when a stock i5 + 290X is scoring 10,000+, and even as high as 14,000.

 

"Firstrike: Your GPU is ready to rumble but your CPU doesn't want to play." Direct quote from your personal first-time score.

 

Indecency, your 8350 @ 4.8 and 290X doesn't even hit 100fps when a stock i5 and 290X is getting 120fps.

 

To even reach the stock performance of an i5, you have to OC an FX very high, which requires a more expensive motherboard, which makes both CPUs cost the same. Not to mention, the single core performance which is 50% better on Intel and a lot of games and programs still rely on.

 

The only reason someone should be purchasing an FX over an i5 is for video editing and rendering, or if they only have a budget of <$800 for a gaming rig, and even then, depending on the types of games being played an Intel i3 will beat an FX8.

The graphics score was no different, scoring EXACTLY the same, the i5 had a higher Physics score, hence the higher score overall.

 

Also, the one you posted was almost certainly tweaked, no 290X to date has legitimately scored 22000 graphics score on 3Dmark.

 

The closest 290X I could find near my clocks was this one, and even then it's score only 1000 more: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2206999

[i_build_nanosuits]

i had an fx8320 @4.6ghz with my gtx780 for over 6 months and the cpu was indeed bottlenecking the gpu in many games at 1080p.

[patrickjp93]

The big question is this: do you play games requiring more than 60 fps frame rates (and do you play on a monitor which supports this)? If not, the 8320 with a small overclock will be fine for the next 4 years.

 

If you do, then I5 is your only choice to have decent physics alongside your graphics for a few years to come, though be aware without the hyperthreading of the 4790k and its much higher clock rates, you will be hamstrung as games become more multi-core heavy. Whether this happens in 4 years or only later on I can't say definitively apart from Star Citizen.

[Bloodkil933]

i had an fx8320 @4.6ghz with my gtx780 for over 6 months and the cpu was indeed bottlenecking the gpu in many games at 1080p.

Was this in all games or CPU heavy ones? My 290X + 8350 have never bottlenecked.

 

The big question is this: do you play games requiring more than 60 fps frame rates (and do you play on a monitor which supports this)? If not, the 8320 with a small overclock will be fine for the next 4 years.

 

If you do, then I5 is your only choice to have decent physics alongside your graphics for a few years to come, though be aware without the hyperthreading of the 4790k and its much higher clock rates, you will be hamstrung as games become more multi-core heavy. Whether this happens in 4 years or only later on I can't say definitively apart from Star Citizen.

As above, I've never seen a bottleneck with my rig, so why do people say there is, in GPU dependent games you just don't see it.

 

Are people getting confused between the CPU bottlenecking the GPU and the games that are just CPU heavy?

 

I don't understand all the hate.

[Faceman]

The graphics score was no different, scoring EXACTLY the same, the i5 had a higher Physics score, hence the higher score overall.

 

Also, the one you posted was almost certainly tweaked, no 290X to date has legitimately scored 22000 graphics score on 3Dmark.

 

The closest 290X I could find near my clocks was this one, and even then it's score only 1000 more: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2206999

10,700 - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2293178 with i5 @ 4.4Ghz & 290X @ 1080 Core and 1250 Memory which is lower than your 290X overclock. Valid result

 

 

8320:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LgCRYJ

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LgCRYJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($140.00)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($116.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $256.98

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i5:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wqw4YJ

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wqw4YJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($180.00)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($88.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $268.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-27 18:47 EDT-0400

 

@OP

I used Microcenter prices for both processors to even the playing field, also, there are less expensive motherboards that will perform just as well on Intel's side that are only $65-$75.  I chose this Z97-G55 because it is at an uncharacteristically low price, and provides a lot more features that may come in handy in the future.  If you don't live near a Microcenter, you can use Staples.com or Frys.com price match feature to get the i5 shipped to you.

 

Here is my recommended $1,000 build, you have the freedom to add a more expensive case if you would like:

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9JTkWZ

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9JTkWZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($180.00)

CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 87.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: MSI Z97-G55 SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($88.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($80.75 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($50.40 @ Amazon)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($369.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $970.09

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-27 18:54 EDT-0400