XFX 7850... Is 1gb ok for 1280x1024?

[G.Freeman]

Wow, that's my old Screen Resolution.. I miss 4:3 a lot...

 

@Topic: Yeah, 1GB is enough. Just know that there can be limitations sometimes to some super high-res game textures.

Which ones ? Cite sources please.

[orangecat]

If you want go for the 2GB model because if you plan on playing new games they are going to eat up all that ram.

[G.Freeman]

If you want go for the 2GB model because if you plan on playing new games they are going to eat up all that ram.

 

Sigh seems most people have no clue how vram works.

 

"When it comes to gaming performance the XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Core Edition did better than expected with a screen resolution of 1920x1080! We were able to easily play all the current game titles at 1080p with the image quality settings cranked up!"  http://www.legitrevi...rticle/2048/13/

 

 

"in Battlefield 3 at 1,920 x 1,080, the MSI HD 7850 1GB was actually able to outperform the 2GB version thanks to its factory overclock, albeit by a single frame per second on the minimum frame rate. This suggests that the 2GB's extra 1GB of GDDR5 is all but useless at this resolution." http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

 

"We have to admit this was a bit of a surprise. We wanted to get the 1GB version of the HD 7850 to test it against the HD 7770 more than anything else - assuming this would be the card it'd be going up against. After all, the 2GB frame buffer of the stock HD 7850 must be partly responsible for its impressive showing at hi-res, right? And that's putting post-processing such as anti-aliasing in the mix.

How wrong we were. It seems that the bottleneck to the Pitcairn Pro's performance is not the memory at all - the GPU itself bottlenecks performance well before the memory gets anywhere near making things crawl.

What does that mean though? Well, it means the 1GB version of the HD 7850, especially the slightly overclocked version supplied by MSI, is more than able to keep pace with the stock 2GB version of the Pitcairn Pro card." http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

[orangecat]

Sigh seems most people have no clue how vram works.

 

"When it comes to gaming performance the XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Core Edition did better than expected with a screen resolution of 1920x1080! We were able to easily play all the current game titles at 1080p with the image quality settings cranked up!"  http://www.legitrevi...rticle/2048/13/

 

 

"in Battlefield 3 at 1,920 x 1,080, the MSI HD 7850 1GB was actually able to outperform the 2GB version thanks to its factory overclock, albeit by a single frame per second on the minimum frame rate. This suggests that the 2GB's extra 1GB of GDDR5 is all but useless at this resolution." http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

 

"We have to admit this was a bit of a surprise. We wanted to get the 1GB version of the HD 7850 to test it against the HD 7770 more than anything else - assuming this would be the card it'd be going up against. After all, the 2GB frame buffer of the stock HD 7850 must be partly responsible for its impressive showing at hi-res, right? And that's putting post-processing such as anti-aliasing in the mix.

How wrong we were. It seems that the bottleneck to the Pitcairn Pro's performance is not the memory at all - the GPU itself bottlenecks performance well before the memory gets anywhere near making things crawl.

What does that mean though? Well, it means the 1GB version of the HD 7850, especially the slightly overclocked version supplied by MSI, is more than able to keep pace with the stock 2GB version of the Pitcairn Pro card." http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

I don't think you know how vRam works stuff like shaders and textures eat up vRam also. Yes resolution eats it up to but as games get more advanced shaders and larger textures they will eat up even more and what if you find a good deal on a 1080p monitor.

[Bramm17]

2Gb is a waste of money, but maybe the 7850 is waste of money for those kind of resolutions... Maybe a 7770? Saves a little money for something else in the pc? 

[Theo]

Sigh seems most people have no clue how vram works.

 

"When it comes to gaming performance the XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Core Edition did better than expected with a screen resolution of 1920x1080! We were able to easily play all the current game titles at 1080p with the image quality settings cranked up!"  http://www.legitrevi...rticle/2048/13/

 

 

"in Battlefield 3 at 1,920 x 1,080, the MSI HD 7850 1GB was actually able to outperform the 2GB version thanks to its factory overclock, albeit by a single frame per second on the minimum frame rate. This suggests that the 2GB's extra 1GB of GDDR5 is all but useless at this resolution." http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

 

"We have to admit this was a bit of a surprise. We wanted to get the 1GB version of the HD 7850 to test it against the HD 7770 more than anything else - assuming this would be the card it'd be going up against. After all, the 2GB frame buffer of the stock HD 7850 must be partly responsible for its impressive showing at hi-res, right? And that's putting post-processing such as anti-aliasing in the mix.

How wrong we were. It seems that the bottleneck to the Pitcairn Pro's performance is not the memory at all - the GPU itself bottlenecks performance well before the memory gets anywhere near making things crawl.

What does that mean though? Well, it means the 1GB version of the HD 7850, especially the slightly overclocked version supplied by MSI, is more than able to keep pace with the stock 2GB version of the Pitcairn Pro card." http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

YOU have no idea how Vram works yet you post on EVERY gpu thread, please stop and learn how vram works,

[G.Freeman]

I don't think you know how vRam works stuff like shaders and textures eat up vRam also. Yes resolution eats it up to but as games get more advanced shaders and larger textures they will eat up even more and what if you find a good deal on a 1080p monitor.

I trust the professional review publications that actually bench marked and reviewed the 1GB HD 7850 and that's why I bought one and can say that they are right and your opinion in misinformed and lacking real substance.

 

http://www.legitrevi...rticle/2048/13/ 

http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

[G.Freeman]

YOU have no idea how Vram works yet you post on EVERY gpu thread, please stop and learn how vram works,

I trust Professional review publications over your opinion. See all the pros that reviewed the 1GB HD 7850 are quantified you are not quantified with legitimate sources just your opinion.

[infernowheels]

Which ones ? Cite sources please.

Sorry, no source.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the screen resolution is not the only thing eating up the Vram, textures and maps(and maybe some other stuff) also drain some Video memory.

When the point comes that the 1GB isn't enough, the gpu will choke and will result in sudden framerate drops.

[Theo]

Sorry, no source.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the screen resolution is not the only thing eating up the Vram, textures and maps(and maybe some other stuff) also drain some Video memory.

When the point comes that the 1GB isn't enough, the gpu will choke and will result in sudden framerate drops.

That is true but G Freeman WILL NEVER accept that, you ll see

[G.Freeman]

Sorry, no source.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the screen resolution is not the only thing eating up the Vram, textures and maps(and maybe some other stuff) also drain some Video memory.

When the point comes that the 1GB isn't enough, the gpu will choke and will result in sudden framerate drops.

Nope that is absolutely incorrect as what the pro reviewer have found is that the HD 7850 is not even fast enough to use more than 1GB vram. I am not trolling man I have done the reserch and have double checked and validated the result myself with my own 1GB HD 7850 and the result are true, valid and quantified.

 

"the 2GB frame buffer of the stock HD 7850 must be partly responsible for its impressive showing at hi-res, right? And that's putting post-processing such as anti-aliasing in the mix.

How wrong we were. It seems that the bottleneck to the Pitcairn Pro's performance is not the memory at all - the GPU itself bottlenecks performance well before the memory gets anywhere near making things crawl.

What does that mean though? Well, it means the 1GB version of the HD 7850, especially the slightly overclocked version supplied by MSI, is more than able to keep pace with the stock 2GB version of the Pitcairn Pro card." http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

[G.Freeman]

That is true but G Freeman WILL NEVER accept that, you ll see

It's not me saying it it's the professional review publications that you are saying are wrong.

 

Read the links before posting .

 

http://www.legitrevi...cle/2048/13/ 

http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

[Ddm5]

That is true but G Freeman WILL NEVER accept that, you ll see

 

 

It's not me saying it it's the professional review publications that you are saying are wrong.

 

Right, enough, the both of you, Freeman if you would like to continue discussing Vram, open another thread, this guy just asked a simple question yet your arrogance has lead to this thread spanning over 2 pages. The same goes for the both of you, grow a pair.

[infernowheels]

Nope that is absolutely incorrect as what the pro reviewer have found is that the HD 7850 is not even fast enough to use more than 1GB vram. I am not trolling man I have done the reserch and have double checked and validated the result myself with my own 1GB HD 7850 and the result are true, valid and quantified.

 

"the 2GB frame buffer of the stock HD 7850 must be partly responsible for its impressive showing at hi-res, right? And that's putting post-processing such as anti-aliasing in the mix.

How wrong we were. It seems that the bottleneck to the Pitcairn Pro's performance is not the memory at all - the GPU itself bottlenecks performance well before the memory gets anywhere near making things crawl.

What does that mean though? Well, it means the 1GB version of the HD 7850, especially the slightly overclocked version supplied by MSI, is more than able to keep pace with the stock 2GB version of the Pitcairn Pro card." http://www.techradar...-1129390/review

Please sir, tell me how you have validated these things? 

I'm pretty sure you just haven't tried anything that would take more than 1GB on your card.

 

By the way, absolutely incorrect? Please elaborate how textures and maps are not loaded onto the VRAM :)

[G.Freeman]

Right, enough, the both of you, Freeman if you would like to continue discussing Vram, open another thread, this guy just asked a simple question yet your arrogance has lead to this thread spanning over 2 pages. The same goes for the both of you, grow a pair.

I am the only one that provided proof in the form of well founded links to respected professional reviews.

[Giac]

Please sir, tell me how you have validated these things? 

I'm pretty sure you just haven't tried anything that would take more than 1GB on your card.

 

By the way, absolutely incorrect? Please elaborate how textures and maps are not loaded onto the VRAM :)

dude, his results are true, valid, and quantified.

 

Right, enough, the both of you, Freeman if you would like to continue discussing Vram, open another thread, this guy just asked a simple question yet your arrogance has lead to this thread spanning over 2 pages. The same goes for the both of you, grow a pair.

I don't see admin next to your name?

[infernowheels]

Anyways, I don't know if you just want a flame war or just trying too hard to defend your card.

 

I was just pointing out that 1GB GPUs already have the tendency to choke.

 

Have a nice day sir.

[G.Freeman]

Please sir, tell me how you have validated these things?

I did not validate anything the links I posted to did so that way we can remove personal opinion from the equation.

[PCBudgetSolutions]

Might want to read some posts next time before posting.

 

"in Battlefield 3 at 1,920 x 1,080, the MSI HD 7850 1GB was actually able to outperform the 2GB version thanks to its factory overclock, albeit by a single frame per second on the minimum frame rate. This suggests that the 2GB's extra 1GB of GDDR5 is all but useless at this resolution." http://www.bit-tech....0-1gb-review/10

Okay, comparing a 2GB reference design overclocking from 850/1200 to 900/1250 compared to a custom PCB with a custom fan design with a stock speed of 1000/1300 overclocking slightly yes will yield better results.  Now take a Power Color HD 7850 OC it to 1050/1450 (which it will do all day) and see if that factory OC version will keep up.  It won't.  It's a terribly biased test, they don't even specify the OC on the reference design and such.  I'd take it for a grain of salt.

[G.Freeman]

Anyways, I don't know if you just want a flame war or just trying too hard to defend your card.

 

I was just pointing out that 1GB GPUs already have the tendency to choke.

 

Have a nice day sir.

I refuted that by posting to every pro review and benchmark that has been done on the 1GB HD 7850 how much more quantified can one be ? The pro reviewers that actually reviewed and benched the 1GB HD 7850 say you guys are wrong. It's quantified and you are not.

[Ddm5]

dude, his results are true, valid, and quantified.

 

I don't see admin next to your name?

 

Your point is?, his points might be valid, true and/or quantified, it could be easily discussed in a different place such as his own thread, not someone else's.

[Giac]

Your point is?, his points might be valid, true and/or quantified, it could be easily discussed in a different place such as his own thread, not someone else's.

he clearly quantified his results then validated them....making them true. Do not argue with Gman

[G.Freeman]

Your point is?, his points might be valid, true and/or quantified, it could be easily discussed in a different place such as his own thread, not someone else's.

My point is Yes 1GB is more than ok for OP I quantified that and proved it true triple certified.

[Giac]

My point is Yes 1GB is more than ok for OP I quantified that and proved it true triple certified.

WELL IF ITS TRIPLE  CERTIFIED THEN IT MUST BE TRUE

[Chivpcgamer]

Guys resolution and aa are the vram eaters, 2gb is starting to get pushed at 1080p blah blah blah we all know this stuff. Most gpus have 2gigs nowadays anyway. All games are different, all gamers have different fps targets, its all too in depth for a sub topic. We should start a vram thread and please "be specific". What your playin at, what settings etc etc