Gigabyte 780 vs 780 Ti

[Santa_Dwarf]

So, the Gigabyte GV-N78TOC-3GD vs to GV-N780OC-3GD.

I have the money for either, I'm just wondering how big the diffrence is, and on whether the TI is a good upgrade towards the normal one, performance wise and future-proofing.

Just give me your opinion, completely argumentated or purely on personal feeling towards them, I just want some different opinions.

If you think I should put the money in something else, my future specs are in my signature.

LTT ftw

[Askew]

WWJMD?

 

If you have the money for either grab the ti because it's faster, however it has less of a price/performance advantage over the regular 780.

Depending on your future plans though it could pay to get the 6GB 780 if you want to potentially SLI later or move to 4k.

[aricleather]

So, the Gigabyte GV-N78TOC-3GD vs to GV-N780OC-3GD.

I have the money for either, I'm just wondering how big the diffrence is, and on whether the TI is a good upgrade towards the normal one, performance wise and future-proofing.

Just give me your opinion, completely argumentated or purely on personal feeling towards them, I just want some different opinions.

If you think I should put the money in something else, my future specs are in my signature.

LTT ftw

 

I would get a 780. The price to performance ratio on the 780 ti isn't too good.

[MegaDave91]

780 all the way

[Coombzy]

780 definitely.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

i suggest an msi GTX 780Ti Gaming edition, not just because of my Avatar and member title, but because the TF4 is way cooler than the windforce, by ~7C°, quieter, it's only $669, 1.02GHz out of the box, or an EVGA SC 780Ti or a 6GB GTX 780

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

780 all the way

 

 

I would get a 780. The price to performance ratio on the 780 ti isn't too good.

why are you guys suggesting 780 wile the 780Ti is clearly King of single GPU cards and polls away from the 780 and 290 by miles !!

[MegaDave91]

why are you guys suggesting 780 wile the 780Ti is clearly King of single GPU cards and polls away from the 780 and 290 by miles !!

Yes it's faster, but it's not worth the extra money. Simple as that.

[Unclescar]

Personally I have a hard time buying something that is intentionally gimped. (780) when there is a full on version of it available (780 ti)

Yes its a premium, and more expensive, and performance wise the improvement is subjectively not worth it according to many.. but if you are like me and just hate "settling" with something, get the best of the best that you can comfortably afford. If a 780 ti is in your budget, then get the 780 ti, and of course you could trade up to the 6gb version when it's released as well.

I am in a similar boat, but not in a rush for my graphics cards since I'm doing a lot of case modding. I'm really really hoping the 6gb 780 ti's are available before school starts this fall, otherwise I'm going to SLI two 6gb 780s instead of two 6gb 780 tis, and I won't be quite as happy.

most people, when critiquing other people's potential builds, will make recommendations that take money off of one item that isn't necessarily necessary, and putting that money towards a better graphics card. Just a thought on the matter.


Also, go for a z97 mobo instead of the z87 unless you have already purchased.

[Inkz]

I would say get a 6Gb 780 and call it a day.

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

Yes it's faster, but it's not worth the extra money. Simple as that.

humm, see how the 780 and the 290 struggle with some C3 and BF4 maxed at 2560x1440, the 290 can keep up but not a chance against the 780Ti, wile the 780 has no chance what so ever

[xAcid9]

GTX780 Ti, OC potential is just too much.

[coen113]

i suggest an msi GTX 780Ti Gaming edition, not just because of my Avatar and member title, but because the TF4 is way cooler than the windforce, by ~7C°, quieter, it's only $669, 1.02GHz out of the box, or an EVGA SC 780Ti or a 6GB GTX 780

nah, the twin frozr cooler isnt that much better, if at all than the gigabyte one. maybe you fanboy a little bit

i would go with the 780, better price/performance

[rellion]

the 780 exceeds the 780 ti with a little overclock. here's what i got on valley

 

[jmaster299]

I would suggest holding out a little while if you can. Nvidia card prices should be dropping, and I'm actually surprised they have not dropped already. With the $1500 295X2 and the prices on the rest of the AMD cards coming back down to Earth, Nvidia is going to have to drop their prices if they don't want to lose ground on their 2 to 1 market share over Nvidia. If the 800 series was not delayed until end of this year or early next year things may be different, but if they want to make money of the next 6-9 months they have no choice.

I've been holding off pulling the trigger myself. I am looking at a EVGA GTX 780 Classified and a BenQ XL2720Z but have been considering dropping down to the XL2420Z and going with the 780 Ti Classified instead. If prices drop like they should, I'll being getting the Ti for sure.

[rellion]

I would suggest holding out a little while if you can. Nvidia card prices should be dropping, and I'm actually surprised they have not dropped already. With the $1500 295X2 and the prices on the rest of the AMD cards coming back down to Earth, Nvidia is going to have to drop their prices if they don't want to lose ground on their 2 to 1 market share over Nvidia. If the 800 series was not delayed until end of this year or early next year things may be different, but if they want to make money of the next 6-9 months they have no choice.

I've been holding off pulling the trigger myself. I am looking at a EVGA GTX 780 Classified and a BenQ XL2720Z but have been considering dropping down to the XL2420Z and going with the 780 Ti Classified instead. If prices drop like they should, I'll being getting the Ti for sure.

 

well my score above was done with a 780 classy and it beats many 780 Tis even overclocked except the 780 Ti Classy which is also a beast. If you can stretch for the kingpin 

[jmaster299]

well my score above was done with a 780 classy and it beats many 780 Tis even overclocked except the 780 Ti Classy which is also a beast. If you can stretch for the kingpin 

You winning the silicone lottery with your 780 does not mean other people will. I'm sure there are plenty of 780 Ti owners that can come back and beat your score. Also, synthetic benchmarks are not an accurate measure of performance. A card can perform great in Valley, but perform the same or worse as other cards in actual games. 

[rellion]

You winning the silicone lottery with your 780 does not mean other people will. I'm sure there are plenty of 780 Ti owners that can come back and beat your score. Also, synthetic benchmarks are not an accurate measure of performance. A card can perform great in Valley, but perform the same or worse as other cards in actual games. 

 

well i max out bf4 all settings ultra at 1350mhz at 200% resolution scale with fps > 60. or with 4x msaa at 130-160 fps roughly at 1080p

 

firestrike I get roughly 11.5k 

 

anyways mine is just average for 780 classys which are highly binned. The really good ones can hit >1500mhz core. highly recommended. 

 

A 780 needs to be roughly 150mhz faster to be equal with a 780 Ti. So 1250 780 is roughly a 1100 780 Ti. You can figure from there 

 

If you're looking for 780 Ti get a KPE or Classified and you will be looking at massive scores as well over the Superclocked or any other version especially a simple reference.

 

Regardless all of the above cards will be more than enough for any use

[VintageCake]

Shell out an extra 200$ for just about 8% better performance?
 

In other words, do you fucking hate your wallet and how big and fat it is?

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

the 780 exceeds the 780 ti with a little overclock. here's what i got on valley

 

 

But once the 780Ti OCed as well, it just blasts By the 780 and the 290

[rellion]

Mr prophet,

Please read the above. Im sure I can take on any normal 780 Ti bar the KPE or Classy series and possible equal or come out on top even when OCed

[jmaster299]

Mr prophet,

Please read the above. Im sure I can take on any normal 780 Ti bar the KPE or Classy series and possible equal or come out on top even when OCed

Thinking, wishing, hoping, assuming, none of it makes something true. Sure there may be some Ti cards out there that won't overclock well, but it's simply not possible for your 780 to beat a 780 Ti that's equally overclocked.

[rellion]

Thinking, wishing, hoping, assuming, none of it makes something true. Sure there may be some Ti cards out there that won't overclock well, but it's simply not possible for your 780 to beat a 780 Ti that's equally overclocked.

 

Definitely! Not clock for clock. Many 780 Tis are voltage locked and those that are including the Asus DC2 cap out at 1100-1200 or so.

 

As such clocks my 780 @ 1350-1500 mhz will definitely beat it. 

 

If you have a 780 Ti Classy @ 1300-1400 then clearly its a different story. 

 

Like I said above, a 780 Ti needs 150mhz less core to match a 780 so you can do your calculations there 

 

If you dont believe mr you can ask Mr Too Short from OCN or you can check some 780 Ti benchmarks and compare it with mine. I dont assume anything I use pure statistics and facts. You can review my benched results again. 

 

Valley score I posted just now just over 3.5k, firestrike 11.5, all of these on water of course 

 

 

Heres an overclocked 780 TI SC ACX for comparison. Please note that this is a highly capable card too beyond the reference 780 Ti + a sizeable overclock 

 

[jmaster299]

But, again, just because you were able to overclock your 780 that much does not mean other people will. People also need to stop trying to use synthetic benchmarks, they do not reflect actual gaming performance. That goes for both CPUs and GPUs. Replicate that 5fps advantage in Crysis 3, then you may have a point. Even then, your clock and voltage is putting a huge amount of extra stress on your GPU.

[rellion]

But, again, just because you were able to overclock your 780 that much does not mean other people will. People also need to stop trying to use synthetic benchmarks, they do not reflect actual gaming performance. That goes for both CPUs and GPUs. Replicate that 5fps advantage in Crysis 3, then you may have a point. Even then, your clock and voltage is putting a huge amount of extra stress on your GPU.

 

i have to agree. the power consumption just goes up the roof once you overvolt. im drawing around 500-700w on my gpu alone!  

 

But synthetics aside, I can do around 120-160 fps fully maxed 4x MSAA on Bf4 with all settings ultra at 1080p. With resolution scale 200% and MSAA off I can still do > 60 fps average 

 

so it's pretty damn fast i would have to say