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(self-explanatory) Is there any software like apps for subscriptions you refuse to pay for? Either out of principle or not wanting to be bombarded by ads?

 

For me: it's mainly both. I do not have my own streaming service accounts or pay for cable TV (my grandparents do, I'm just sharing their stuff) because I don't like the idea of having ads in a paid service and/or product. Because having ads be shown on a paid service is insulting in a way that says "fuck you, we want your money and your data, you cheapskate". Not going to go into detail here but I know how to sail the seven seas to where a VPN would pay for itself many times over.

 

The idea of paying for multiple streaming services just to watch half of what I usually do on cable is exhausting of keeping track of what is on where. Are shows being heavily censored/edited? Why are certain episodes missing? At this point it's cheaper to buy DVD's and keep them on a shelf where I live.

 

When it comes to things in real life: I don't want to lease it, rent it, or subscribe to it.... I just want to buy it.

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1 hour ago, MC.Morrado said:

The idea of paying for multiple streaming services just to watch half of what I usually do on cable is exhausting of keeping track of what is on where. Are shows being heavily censored/edited? Why are certain episodes missing? At this point it's cheaper to buy DVD's and keep them on a shelf where I live.

As someone who subs to numerous streaming services I do get your point about buying DVD's. I have a Plex server set up and I have been considering investing more in to my Plex setup. For example adding in a Blu-ray drive and using Automatic Ripping Machine (ARM) to rip my disks. But I mainly sub to the service for my parents who use most of them. I know I get my monies worth, as my dad used over 700 gigs of data in one month mostly streaming. But I jump from service to service. I generally only have 2 to 3 at most. 

 

1 hour ago, MC.Morrado said:

Is there any software like apps for subscriptions you refuse to pay for?

Not really an App, but games, I will never sub to a game, like WOW for example. When Blizzard first released that back in the day I was like fuck no. Same thing with Console gaming, I would never jump to a console because paying for the privilege to use it online has always been a stupid concept to me. Or services like Game pass, which my friend tried to get me to sub to. I was like nope, Im not subbing to a service for gaming. I'll buy what few games I buy or replay the ones I have. Im not much of a fan of modern games. 

 

I wont pay for Peacock because its own by Comcast and I hate that company with the power of 10,000 suns. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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If there are open source alternatives that has the functions what I need, I usually use that instead.

One example is when Microsoft scrapped the Windows Mail & Calendar app and replaced that with the free Outlook app, which had ads. If you wanted to remove ads you had to pay subscription for their shiny ads free version. Well I'm using Thunderbird now.

 

We're seeing more and more greed lately, in how companies are pushing more expensive subscriptions. Linus recently did a video about Teamviewer where the lifetime license Linus bought some years ago recently got cancelled right? Isn't that illegal? It should be...

 

 

Alot of streaming services and Youtube are getting more blobbed with ads nowadays....

 

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43 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

As someone who subs to numerous streaming services I do get your point about buying DVD's. I have a Plex server set up and I have been considering investing more in to my Plex setup. For example adding in a Blu-ray drive and using Automatic Ripping Machine (ARM) to rip my disks. But I mainly sub to the service for my parents who use most of them. I know I get my monies worth, as my dad used over 700 gigs of data in one month mostly streaming. But I jump from service to service. I generally only have 2 to 3 at most. 

 

Not really an App, but games, I will never sub to a game, like WOW for example. When Blizzard first released that back in the day I was like fuck no. Same thing with Console gaming, I would never jump to a console because paying for the privilege to use it online has always been a stupid concept to me. Or services like Game pass, which my friend tried to get me to sub to. I was like nope, Im not subbing to a service for gaming. I'll buy what few games I buy or replay the ones I have. Im not much of a fan of modern games. 

 

I wont pay for Peacock because its own by Comcast and I hate that company with the power of 10,000 suns. 

I always considered mobile gaming to be a waste of time in my opinion. 99% of the stuff out there is riddled with microtransactions and ads to the point where I do not do any mobile gaming.

 

My only complaint about consoles (talking from experience about Xbox, never owned a Playstation) is paying to use the internet you already pay for. As a kid I very rarely actually played on Xbox Live because my dad didn't have the spare change for it. Nowadays I mostly use my Xbox One S as a streaming box that just so happens to play some of my physical games. It sucks that a newer Xbox can't play all of my Xbox 360 library.

 

I always hated the Xbox One. My favorite 21st century living room console (that I've used) has to be the Nintendo Wii and Xbox 360. My only experience with handhelds are Game Boys, Nintendo DS, 2DS, and 3DS models.... That's it really. I have no interest in buying any new consoles because of their proprietary restricting nature of games I can play besides paying to play online with other players.

 

The Xbox 360 was my favorite living room console but I went through several because of red rings of death, overheating, and being a piece of shit.... But a very fun piece of shit nonetheless. Nintendo's hardware undeniably has the best build quality; personally, I always preferred cartridges over disks anyway.

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I avoid anything with subscriptions. Bought Adobe Acrobat X Pro, not upgrading. Suck it Adobe. I prefer the UI of X Pro anyhow.

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2 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

I avoid anything with subscriptions. Bought Adobe Acrobat X Pro, not upgrading. Suck it Adobe. I prefer the UI of X Pro anyhow.

I don't like subscriptions either. I am only going for software that's FOSS or a one time purchase.

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I don't mind paying for software if its purchase price is worth the headaches it solves. That's why I have a lifetime Plex Pass instead of running Jellyfin. (Plex Pass comes with guide data, Jellyfin makes you cobble scrapers together or subscribe to a third party service that would've cost more than Plex Pass did by now.) However I haven't bought Unraid or HexOS because I don't take issue with TrueNAS Scale's default interface. (I tried Unraid but didn't like how it handles ZFS.)

 

7 hours ago, MC.Morrado said:

what's WinRAR?

An archive tool that was distributed as shareware you were supposed to pay for, but was effectively freeware for personal use because it never stopped you from using it without paying. It also nagged less than WinZip. (7zip didn't exist yet, and the first popular version of Windows to include .zip support was XP. 7zip is pretty much a FOSS clone of WinRAR with support for additional compression formats.)

 

 

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2 hours ago, KodokuJ said:

Ugh I hate the "if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing" argument. It's like I get it, it sucks. But there's like rented services and it just feels like people who would pirate said thing just trying to justify it/get other people on it. In my opinion 

To me, the point of the argument is that consumer options for ownership have been moving backwards. 

 

I haven't pirated anything. I'm patiently waiting for the opportunity to buy the media I want. But if it becomes clear that those shows and movies will never come to physical media, then my options are either to never watch them again or pirate them.

 

I will not pay for a streaming service just to get access to a single show, and I will absolutely never buy a digital copy, because I don't trust it now that multiple companies have made it clear that the purchases mean nothing. It's not buying. It's indefinitely renting.

 

If I buy a digital copy, I should be able to make a backup of it so that, if it is removed from the digital library, I still have access to it. That is completely reasonable, and is legal with DVDs, but for anti-consumer reasons is not allowed.

 

If buying a digital copy comes with no ownership whatsoever, then it is obvious that piracy isn't stealing anything, because how can you steal something that no one can own?

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3 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

I don't mind paying for software if its purchase price is worth the headaches it solves

Same here. It's amazing how quickly one's joyous lust for life returns after you ditch abysmal free software and pay $10 for a program that actually works 

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But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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oh I've got a good one

 

the upsells, micro transactions, and in app purchases on dating apps specifically

All the popular ones have em... Tinder, bumble, hinge, Grindr whatever and they're all outrageously expensive and quite predatory. But the apps SUCK to use without them 

 

In app purchases have always been a no for me but especially for dating apps that feels extra weird vs just like buying game currency or something 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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8 hours ago, MC.Morrado said:

For me: it's mainly both. I do not have my own streaming service accounts or pay for cable TV (my grandparents do, I'm just sharing their stuff) because I don't like the idea of having ads in a paid service and/or product. Because having ads be shown on a paid service is insulting in a way that says "fuck you, we want your money and your data, you cheapskate". Not going to go into detail here but I know how to sail the seven seas to where a VPN would pay for itself many times over.

 

The idea of paying for multiple streaming services just to watch half of what I usually do on cable is exhausting of keeping track of what is on where. Are shows being heavily censored/edited? Why are certain episodes missing? At this point it's cheaper to buy DVD's and keep them on a shelf where I live.

 

When it comes to things in real life: I don't want to lease it, rent it, or subscribe to it.... I just want to buy it.

 

But this isn't about paying for software, is about subscribing to services. Like, Netflix is not a software, is a service. It happens to use some software, but cable TV doesn't (or it used not to) and it's essentially the same.

On the other hand, some software products are offered as subscriptions, but many aren't.

 

Personally, I'm OK to subscribing to services, but not software. And I refused to get fooled by software adding "services" through feature bloat to pretend that a subscription is warranted. Hence, when it comes to a program that I'll install in my computer being the product (as opposed to an auxiliary component of a service, like a VPN client would be), I mostly only buy through the GOG model: I pay for the program, and I get an installer that I can use forever, even after the company dies. (I said mostly, because I did get a laptop with Windows preinstalled, so technically I paid for a piece of software that Microsoft can shut down at any minute with no recourse).

 

So, I bought Minecraft from Mohjang back in 2011, I paid for the original Synergy, I have a bunch of games from GOG. I'm kind of subscribed to a streaming platform (is similar to having Amazon Prime and therefore also access the streaming service they provided, one VPN service I may or may not renew, and that's pretty much it.

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9 hours ago, KodokuJ said:

Ugh I hate the "if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing" argument. It's like I get it, it sucks. But there's like rented services and it just feels like people who would pirate said thing just trying to justify it/get other people on it. In my opinion 

The nuace there for that line is that if ya buy lets say a blueray for 20$ of lord of the rings and then 10 years later that bluray is now suddenly no longer allowed to be played because some drm expired then people exclaim that sentence.

 

You bough an item and now its been taken away. Yes its a license to view in the tos sure but that shouldnt mean you suddenly are no longer allowed to do that.

 

I hve this with cs6. I OWN a legit 650 euro suite copy and have the invoice, mails, product key, physical disk and all yet adobe has decided its no longer valid. It STILL works on win 11 and the old windows 10 machine that was upgraded from 7 but one day it became deactivated and support said tough shit buy our subscription basically heres a 3 month discount. I HAVE to use a pirated version because there is no way I can use the product I bought otherwise.

 

This has happened multiple times to me by now so I have no remorse pirating stuff I own at all as half the time the pirated versions are somehow better even

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Personally as far as software goes, the only thing I pay a subscription for is Parallels on my MacBook, because $100 a year is more convenient than having a separate Windows laptop for rare instances I have to use one, and I also have a VM of Ubuntu as well. I ditched Office long ago even back before it could be a subscription and moved to LibreOffice, and while I'm sure there's some macro functions in the spreadsheet program and formatting options in the PowerPoint-replacement software that are different, they haven't impacted me. And I've also been using GIMP image editor for as long as LibreOfice, I don't need Photoshop and I'm never paying for an Adobe subscription.

 

My previous employer was paying for some expensive subscriptions for my workstation but they were not renewed when I left (I personally paid for and built the workstation, so I took it home). I had about $4500 a year in architectural software, document authoring software, and other subscriptions. 

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Music Software Subscriptions

Specifically spotify

PoS app that runs the free version into the ground by giving you 6 skips per hour, you cant listen to singular songs, you cant liste to songs on an album since they add extra songs you didnt ask for or like

Thats why I switched to YT music, it at least lets me listen to what I want when I want to and lets me skip what I dont like

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19 minutes ago, Millios said:

PoS app that runs the free version into the ground by giving you 6 skips per hour, you cant listen to singular songs, you cant liste to songs on an album since they add extra songs you didnt ask for or like

So fun thing about that, they give you unlimited skips on their daily mixes, but there's nothing stoping you from adding anything to the queue (at least on desktop).

Though these days I'm only really using it for discovery, and yt music is a bit of an arse to use with last.fm (local files ftw!)

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6 minutes ago, Lightwreather said:

So fun thing about that, they give you unlimited skips on their daily mixes, but there's nothing stoping you from adding anything to the queue (at least on desktop).

Though these days I'm only really using it for discovery, and yt music is a bit of an arse to use with last.fm (local files ftw!)

On desktop they are bearable but my complaints although mostly for mobile do somewhat exist in other iterations on desktop (for example they don't let me skip without ads and force biographies)

I'd use local files but I can't download any due to my country's laws on the matter 

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Basically streaming services yeah. I don't care for movies/shows all that much, music I own I just have it. So basically almost no benefit paying expensive monthly subscription for something I'd barely get any fun from.

Now only sub I've always justified for myself is WoW heh, as I actually enjoy and get way more fun time out of it than anything else could ever get close.

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15 hours ago, Donut417 said:

As someone who subs to numerous streaming services I do get your point about buying DVD's. I have a Plex server set up and I have been considering investing more in to my Plex setup. For example adding in a Blu-ray drive and using Automatic Ripping Machine (ARM) to rip my disks. But I mainly sub to the service for my parents who use most of them. I know I get my monies worth, as my dad used over 700 gigs of data in one month mostly streaming. But I jump from service to service. I generally only have 2 to 3 at most. 

 

Not really an App, but games, I will never sub to a game, like WOW for example. When Blizzard first released that back in the day I was like fuck no. Same thing with Console gaming, I would never jump to a console because paying for the privilege to use it online has always been a stupid concept to me. Or services like Game pass, which my friend tried to get me to sub to. I was like nope, Im not subbing to a service for gaming. I'll buy what few games I buy or replay the ones I have. Im not much of a fan of modern games. 

 

I wont pay for Peacock because its own by Comcast and I hate that company with the power of 10,000 suns. 

Funny you say that, I'm the opposite. I'd never pay a sub for streaming services as I barely watch anything and not dwell watching TV stuff. Also they're very expensive for what they are where I am in Europe so there's that. Let alone paying multiple sub services to actually be able to watch stuff you may want.

 

Now games, like MMORPG like WoW it's an MMO that is not free garbage, also server cost a lot so sub was not out of this world really. This is the only thing I see my self continue paying as I get way more fun time out of it than all the combined streaming stuff I can think of, way more worth the time/money for me. Maybe you don't care for the game enough, that's fine. I mean I've played it since released and as a kid I found it worth to gather and save for it. Not even regional priced.

Consoles screw that. Game pass, not a fan either as I buy only certain specific games that I care, or some once on sale, or play f2p anyway.

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5 hours ago, jaslion said:

The nuace there for that line is that if ya buy lets say a blueray for 20$ of lord of the rings and then 10 years later that bluray is now suddenly no longer allowed to be played because some drm expired then people exclaim that sentence.

 

You mean "suddenly blue ray drives are impossible to find, and PS3's that can play them are long out of production.

 

Like I'll be brutally honest here. If the IP holder treats the customer with contempt, they are giving the customer approval to pirate the product, and since you can't "steal" a product you don't own, that opens the floodgates to people buying the software subscription for one month, and then hacking out the call to the server and run it forever. Especially apps written with a CEF (eg electron, nw.js, chromium-based anything) takes no effort to reverse engineer since the critical code isn't part of the os-dependant binary, but is instead usually written in javascript.) 

 

Legally speaking, if you let a subscription lapse, but the software isn't instantly deleted from the machine when the subscription fails to renew, then the user is under no obligation to cease using it, just like if someone receives a product in the mail addressed to them, you can't demand it back. As far the customer is concerned, anything installed to their machine is still THEIR data and they can do whatever they want with things on their PC, despite any EULA, because the user is no longer bound to the EULA if the subscription is terminated. The user isn't running a pirated version if they run a lapsed subscription. The user didn't agree to the change.

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Like I'll let you in on a little secret. I don't pay for spotify. I have done nothing to block the ads on spotify on purpose. But somehow the ads always stop working with 404 errors. I listen to spotify maybe once a month, it's not worth to pay for, and I'd rather pay for apple music if I was going to pay for a music service. Despite that, I didn't activate the "Free" apple music trial either. I would rather buy the tracks because the only time I listen to music is when I drive, where there is no cell coverage. And how did that come about? I took the train across America one time, and there was BARELY any 3G internet at the time. So every time the train stopped in a town that had 3G access, I had to try and get the ipad to download the next track or it would be playing the last track it managed downloaded indefinitely. Ad supported stuff doesn't work without internet.

 

 

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Your life is extremely complicated with all the overthinking you engage in.

 

I pay for streaming on multiple platforms and find it's worth it.  The content is entertaining to me and my family.  

 

I firmly believe in enjoying life, and nickel and diming everything based on a "is it worth it to the nth degree?!?!" is exhausting and frankly petty.

 

Live life, enjoy it.  

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 128GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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I refuse to pay for winrar. 

 

At this point, 7zip is free and probably better. 

5900XT (16C/32T) | 64 GB DDR4 RAM | RTX 5070 

1.5TB Optane P4800X | 16TB nvme SSD NAS w/ 10Gbe & 96GB DDR5 RAM caching
LG C4 + QN90A | Sony AZ7000ES | Polk R200+R100, ELAC OW4.2, SVS PB12-NSD + 3x SB1000 | HD800

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