Mini itx sff budget build

[ulookuglynoob]

Budget (including currency): 310 USD, can stretch to 330 USD, but would rather not. 

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming such as fortnite and valorant, mainly work.

Other details: Want it to be as small as possible, intend to use apu (4600g).

 

Pcpartpicker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kB4KRv

Case: Link

pico psu: Link

Psu adapter: Link

 

Pls comment and give feedback. Also not 100 percent sure on how the pico psu gonna work, so pls help. never used one be4.

 

[filpo]

54 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Budget (including currency): 300 USD, can stretch to 330 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming such as fortnite and valorant, mainly work.

Other details: Want it to be as small as possible, intend to use apu (4600g).

 

Pcpartpicker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kB4KRv

Case: Link

pico psu: Link

Psu adapter: Link

 

Pls comment and give feedback. Also not 100 percent sure on how the pico psu gonna work, so pls help. never used one be4.

 

Pico PSU looks sketchy, you COULD get it but if you get a cheap new PSU you should be better off

also, that SSD is sata which is quite a bit different to the speeds of PCIe

you should get some components used

try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($92.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($32.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI) 
Custom: ITX PC Case ($20.00)
Custom: used A520i AC ($99.00)
Total: $330.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 11:32 EDT-0400

[ulookuglynoob]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

Pico PSU looks sketchy, you COULD get it but if you get a used PSU you should be better off

also, that SSD is sata which is quite a bit different to the speeds of PCIe

you should get some components used

try this 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($92.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($32.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI) 
Custom: ITX PC Case ($20.00)
Custom: used A520i AC ($99.00)
Total: $330.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 11:32 EDT-0400

It aint gonna fit in the case. it has literally no space for a psu. look at the link. ima change SSD.

[filpo]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

It aint gonna fit in the case. it has literally no space for a psu. look at the link. 

there's a new case in my build list

[ulookuglynoob]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

there's a new case in my build list

Could you possibly get a smaller case. I want one as small as possible (sff). Thats why I did't get an atx psu. Maybe I could get a case that supports a flex psu. could you recommend a good flex psu? they are expensive though....

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Could you possibly get a smaller case. I want one as small as possible (sff).

do you live in NewYork apartment?

 

how much budget for PSU alone?

[ulookuglynoob]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

do you live in NewYork apartment?

 

how much budget for PSU alone?

50 usd, maybe 60.

[ulookuglynoob]

https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-ITX-PFC400W-Modular-90-264V-Computer/dp/B0CWN49V13/ref=sr_1_3?crid=38V4IS0TKT5AD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.asyZgU6Gr0J3Y28Pr7Yq5gG9yIzod8PbSjxIBSNPoaLczKZ8RkZ5g5H8YSGTfAVBSaSsQZ_V66CapZcSPNv5S1hKoU_H93k6oI-EVMf0F-hbkGCuaY0YUaIqPQp_RcwHKUMgLMRwhiHqPy_UmkNjUwSMc2ChIY-SprNlNDUBpbKx5fE_ScMucOyz6nDPQ6yTAb3SzbCQHhPMKgBa_9gge5hAXuc2rSAsfOcRJXMUNzIospo3hCUJetZkK6pk5SC6-CcUYok2ngbKnEO1d6BKBN_VSTZiKc4AXsWDKbkJXnA.GumWiEqHcdRvn1uw927POrYsh9hozy3PF8i5fuK4A_4&dib_tag=se&keywords=flex+psu&qid=1713800549&s=electronics&sprefix=flex+psu%2Celectronics%2C105&sr=1-3

is this good? its apevia though, so probably not.

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

ould you recommend a good flex psu?

the only good ones ARE expensive

6 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Could you possibly get a smaller case. I want one as small as possible (sff). Thats why I did't get an atx psu. Maybe I could get a case that supports a flex psu. could you recommend a good flex psu? they are expensive though....

if you get this case and get an sfx/sfxl psu it'll go well

N-Case M1 v1 ITX Computer Case | eBay

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

50 usd, maybe 60.

try this psu

EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GM 80 Plus Gold 550W Modular Power Supply (123-GM-0550-Y1) 843368056322 | eBay

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

https://www.amazon.com/Apevia-ITX-PFC400W-Modular-90-264V-Computer/dp/B0CWN49V13/ref=sr_1_3?crid=38V4IS0TKT5AD&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.asyZgU6Gr0J3Y28Pr7Yq5gG9yIzod8PbSjxIBSNPoaLczKZ8RkZ5g5H8YSGTfAVBSaSsQZ_V66CapZcSPNv5S1hKoU_H93k6oI-EVMf0F-hbkGCuaY0YUaIqPQp_RcwHKUMgLMRwhiHqPy_UmkNjUwSMc2ChIY-SprNlNDUBpbKx5fE_ScMucOyz6nDPQ6yTAb3SzbCQHhPMKgBa_9gge5hAXuc2rSAsfOcRJXMUNzIospo3hCUJetZkK6pk5SC6-CcUYok2ngbKnEO1d6BKBN_VSTZiKc4AXsWDKbkJXnA.GumWiEqHcdRvn1uw927POrYsh9hozy3PF8i5fuK4A_4&dib_tag=se&keywords=flex+psu&qid=1713800549&s=electronics&sprefix=flex+psu%2Celectronics%2C105&sr=1-3

is this good? its apevia though, so probably not.

Doesn't look amazing, it's got a tiny 40mm fan and it'll probs be really noisy

 

7 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Could you possibly get a smaller case. I want one as small as possible (sff). Thats why I did't get an atx psu. Maybe I could get a case that supports a flex psu. could you recommend a good flex psu? they are expensive though....

Does it have to really be that small?

[ulookuglynoob]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

the only good ones ARE expensive

if you get this case and get an sfx/sfxl psu it'll go well

N-Case M1 v1 ITX Computer Case | eBay

try this psu

EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GM 80 Plus Gold 550W Modular Power Supply (123-GM-0550-Y1) 843368056322 | eBay

could you get those in amazon? my laptop for some reason cant access ebay. 

[jaslion]

Get an asrock deskmini?

 

Tiny and about in budget if you just get a used complete from ebay.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

could you get those in amazon?

their used listing's on ebay so no

here are the screenshots 

Case is a bit dusty but you can just clean it

Would you like to see the other pics of the parts?

Edited April 22 by filpo

[8tg]

I feel like you’d be far better off on this budget getting some kind of sff office pc with at least one low profile pcie slot and adding like an RX 550 or 6400 to it.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276381758530

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256307785066
it wouldn’t be as small but it would perform significantly better while still being pretty small

[ulookuglynoob]

 

14 minutes ago, filpo said:

there's a new case in my build list

 what's the problem with the pico psu? could you recommend a better one? getting a bigger case and an sfx psu (which is also expensive) would be tricky to fit in my budget.

1 minute ago, 8tg said:

I feel like you’d be far better off on this budget getting some kind of sff office pc with at least one low profile pcie slot and adding like an RX 550 or 6400 to it.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276381758530

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256307785066
it wouldn’t be as small but it would perform significantly better while still being pretty small

I also want to build the PC rather than get a used desktop.

[8tg]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

if you get this case and get an sfx/sfxl psu it'll go well

N-Case M1 v1 ITX Computer Case | eBay

That has 80$ shipping

 

[ulookuglynoob]

9 minutes ago, filpo said:

the only good ones ARE expensive

if you get this case and get an sfx/sfxl psu it'll go well

N-Case M1 v1 ITX Computer Case | eBay

try this psu

EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GM 80 Plus Gold 550W Modular Power Supply (123-GM-0550-Y1) 843368056322 | eBay

Doesn't look amazing, it's got a tiny 40mm fan and it'll probs be really noisy

 

Does it have to really be that small?

psu looks fine, but my pc will only use like 120w, since its apu based.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, 8tg said:

That has 80$ shipping

 

Couldn't see shipping cost since I'm not in the US (even after changing region), just shows as 'Shipping not specified' 

4 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

an sfx psu (which is also expensive)

it's more expensive yes but it fits in budget and allows you to get a dgpu later on (same goes for the case)

 

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

psu looks fine, but my pc will only use like 120w, since its apu based.

It's for if you want to put in a dgpu later on

 

6 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

what's the problem with the pico psu?

I've just never seen one before, then again my experience is pretty limited

Any thoughts on it @8tg?

6 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

I also want to build the PC rather than get a used desktop.

is it the first pc you'll build?

[ulookuglynoob]

12 minutes ago, filpo said:

Does it have to really be that small?

thats the reason im doing the build.

[8tg]

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

what's the problem with the pico psu? could you recommend a better one? getting a bigger case and an sfx psu (which is also expensive) would be tricky to fit in my budget.

 

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

I also want to build the PC rather than get a used desktop.

Basically what you’re asking for is outside of the realm of realistic builds unless you compromise heavily on some components. Which you have done by listing a risky choice of pico psu. A good pico psu costs like twice what that one does, so seeing one that cheap, where did they cut the costs?

And then buying a new ryzen apu system on a $300 budget is just questionable overall, especially when you’re trying to game on it. 
With a $300 budget, anything new should be the last thing to look at. I understand the desire for SFF in general, but at $300 you could be getting basically someone’s old tower and a GTX 1080 and playing anything you want. 
That’s not something super consistent to pull off, so an office pc build is a lot more attainable, and gets pretty close to that level of SFF.

 

[TVwazhere]

15 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Could you possibly get a smaller case. I want one as small as possible (sff). Thats why I did't get an atx psu. Maybe I could get a case that supports a flex psu. could you recommend a good flex psu? they are expensive though....

Small, cheap and reliable; You can get two out of three, but never all three equally. You will always sacrifice one for the other two. If small and cheap are your most important factors, then your build you currently have meets those criteria. 

 

Personally I would give up some size for more reliable parts.

[8tg]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

thats the reason im doing the build.

Buy a laptop.

[ulookuglynoob]

Just now, TVwazhere said:

Small, cheap and reliable; You can get two out of three, but never all three equally. You will always sacrifice one for the other two. If small and cheap are your most important factors, then your build you currently have meets those criteria. 

 

Personally I would give up some size for more reliable parts.

could someone just recommend me a good pico psu. i think that's pretty much all I need. unless there are other problems. 

[ulookuglynoob]

2 minutes ago, 8tg said:

Buy a laptop.

For some reason, since ive gotten into PC building, I have this desire to build one again. Thats mainly the reason I'm doing this build. and I want to try a mini itx build since I have never done one before. idk why. Im weird.

[filpo]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

unless there are other problems. 

RAM is CL22, CL16 is much better and only $4 more

SSD is SATA, which is worse than PCIe for not much less

Case is small but doesn't allow you to get a dgpu down the line (because of the psu) 

pico psu is bad quality

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

and I want to try a mini itx build since I have never done one before.

so use the white case that I linked above, if you don't need it to be THAT small then you can use that itx case above. It'll be easier to build in, and more upgradable as well as being as cheap, most likely more reliable as well

(this one)

[ulookuglynoob]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

RAM is CL22, CL16 is much better and only $4 more

SSD is SATA, which is worse than PCIe for not much less

Case is small but doesn't allow you to get a dgpu down the line (because of the psu) 

pico psu is bad quality

so use the white case that I linked above, if you don't need it to be THAT small then you can use that itx case above. It'll be easier to build in, and more upgradable as well as being as cheap, most likely more reliable as well

(this one)

ok, ima get better ram and the SSD u suggested. could you tell me the dimensions of the build. And also, if the pico psu is good, then ima just make the build in this case:https://www.amazon.com/Goodisory-0-6mm-Desktop-Computer-Chassis/dp/B08PFH1W6P/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2248XBOGLAFA6&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.HeLHoDyf5RQ5RY8AtZLpcxvMxrUho6tP_hgdV4Sq39PGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.Z-7EPF893OuXRNpiKTc2qbfAb0j2GBQkgD1O-Xpc0Qc&dib_tag=se&keywords=mini+itx+no+gpu+case&qid=1713798439&refinements=p_36%3A-2500&rnid=386442011&sprefix=mini+itx+no+gpu+cas%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-1

not gonna get or upgrade to a GPU.