Mini itx sff budget build

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

if the pico psu is good

it's not 

read below

10 minutes ago, 8tg said:

unless you compromise heavily on some components. Which you have done by listing a risky choice of pico psu. A good pico psu costs like twice what that one does, so seeing one that cheap, where did they cut the costs?

 

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

could you tell me the dimensions of the build.

with the white SFF case?

there aren't any specs but it looks to be around 550mm tall, 160mm wide and about 300mm long (most likely less)

[Agall]

1 hour ago, ulookuglynoob said:

Budget (including currency): 310 USD, can stretch to 330 USD, but would rather not. 

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Light gaming such as fortnite and valorant, mainly work.

Other details: Want it to be as small as possible, intend to use apu (4600g).

 

Pcpartpicker list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kB4KRv

Case: Link

pico psu: Link

Psu adapter: Link

 

Pls comment and give feedback. Also not 100 percent sure on how the pico psu gonna work, so pls help. never used one be4.

 

Any of the AMD 7040/8040 mini PCs are great options in comparison. They can get just as cheap.

 

MINISFORUM Venus Series UM773 Lite Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS up to 4.75GHz 32GB DDR5 512GB PCIe4.0 SSD AMD Radeon 680M Mini Computer, 2 x HDMI,1x USB4,5X USB Ports,WiFi 6,BT5. 2 - Newegg.com

 

Example.

[ulookuglynoob]

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

it's not 

read below

so if i get a better pico psu, i should be fine? Could someone recommend? and a psu adapter?

[filpo]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

so if i get a better pico psu, i should be fine? Could someone recommend? and a psu adapter?

you'll go over budget, either get a minisforum pc like this one MINISFORUM EM680 Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 6800U 32GB LPDDR5 6400MHz PCIe4.0 SSD 512GB Tiny Desktop WiFi 6E/BT5.2, 5x USB Triple Screen Display Dual 8K - Newegg.com or the build that I listed before

[ulookuglynoob]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

you'll go over budget, either get a minisforum pc like this one MINISFORUM EM680 Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 6800U 32GB LPDDR5 6400MHz PCIe4.0 SSD 512GB Tiny Desktop WiFi 6E/BT5.2, 5x USB Triple Screen Display Dual 8K - Newegg.com or the build that I listed before

overbudger by how much. and send as screenshot of the mini PC. newegg also is weird on my laptop.

[Agall]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

you'll go over budget, either get a minisforum pc like this one MINISFORUM EM680 Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 6800U 32GB LPDDR5 6400MHz PCIe4.0 SSD 512GB Tiny Desktop WiFi 6E/BT5.2, 5x USB Triple Screen Display Dual 8K - Newegg.com or the build that I listed before

@ulookuglynoob Something like this barebones, uses the 7735HS and 680M APU which is quite formidable.

 

MINISFORUM Venus Series UM773 Lite Mini PC Barebone Version Without RAM/SSD/OS AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS up to 4.75GHz AMD Radeon 680M Mini Computer, 2 x HDMI,1x USB4,5X USB Ports,WiFi 6,BT5. 2 - Newegg.com

 

Its a barebones, so base $320 when finding storage/RAM.

The 6800U has the same iGPU but not as good of a CPU.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, ulookuglynoob said:

newegg also is weird on my laptop.

1 minute ago, ulookuglynoob said:

overbudger by how much

enough to make getting an atx psu and an ebay case

[ulookuglynoob]

what if i got this case, a 10100f, an a380 or cheaper, and a flex psu?

 

[Agall]

6 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

what if i got this case, a 10100f, an a380 or cheaper, and a flex psu?

 

10100f is not going to cut it in my opinion. A 12100f is barely acceptable for even an A380. I built a 12100f/A380 system in an Asrock Deskmeet to test this and that CPU was pegged at 100% the whole time. I imagine a 10100f would be even worse.

 

A380 though is a great card, especially the newer versions with no VGA aux power and/or low profile. Very versatile.

 

ASRock DESKMEET X300 Mini PC Barebone System AMD X300 DisplayPort, HDMI & D-Sub Supports a discrete Dual slot Graphics card up to 20CM(card not included) 8 Liter compact size - Newegg.com

 

Maybe?

[ulookuglynoob]

3 minutes ago, Agall said:

10100f is not going to cut it in my opinion. A 12100f is barely acceptable for even an A380. I built a 12100f/A380 system in an Asrock Deskmeet to test this and that CPU was pegged at 100% the whole time. I imagine a 10100f would be even worse.

 

A380 though is a great card, especially the newer versions with no VGA aux power and/or low profile. Very versatile.

 

ASRock DESKMEET X300 Mini PC Barebone System AMD X300 DisplayPort, HDMI & D-Sub Supports a discrete Dual slot Graphics card up to 20CM(card not included) 8 Liter compact size - Newegg.com

 

Maybe?

I have a 12100f, and i dont really got a problem with it. It works fine with my 3070. Just want a smaller work PC and want it to be practically invisible. also not interested In buying a barebone. thx for the help though.

[ulookuglynoob]

Or what about this pico psu:

https://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-90-100W-power-kit

i know im kinda getting annoying, but i find a pico psu to be an interesting prospect.

or this:

https://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-130W-power-kit

[filpo]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

Or what about this pico psu:

https://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-90-100W-power-kit

i know im kinda getting annoying, but i find a pico psu to be an interesting prospect.

or this:

https://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-130W-power-kit

at $60 just get an a550bn. If you need the smaller form factor get a mini pc, if not then build it yourself slightly bigger but more upgradability

I can't recommend the below more 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($92.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($32.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI) 
Custom: ITX PC Case ($20.00)
Custom: used A520i AC ($99.00)
Total: $330.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 11:32 EDT-0400

[ulookuglynoob]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

at $60 just get an a550bn. If you need the smaller form factor get a mini pc, if not then build it yourself slightly bigger but more upgradability

I can't recommend the below more 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($92.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($32.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI) 
Custom: ITX PC Case ($20.00)
Custom: used A520i AC ($99.00)
Total: $330.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 11:32 EDT-0400

well, i need this build to be practically invisible and portable. I'm fine with getting the 60 buck pico psu. as long as the psu is smaller and works. and the case would be a bit difficult to transport.

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

well, i need this build to be practically invisible and portable. I'm fine with getting the 60 buck pico psu. as long as the psu is smaller and works. and the case would be a bit difficult to transport.

If you need a small pc then get the minisforum pc, it's much smaller than it would be DIY and will definitely be more reliable than the DIY. Either get mine or @Agall's recommendation

[Agall]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

If you need a small pc then get the minisforum pc, it's much smaller than it would be DIY and will definitely be more reliable than the DIY. Either get mine or @Agall's recommendation

OP is just being unreasonable, they either need to expand their budget or compromise with a barebones/mini PC.

 

19 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

I have a 12100f, and i dont really got a problem with it. It works fine with my 3070. Just want a smaller work PC and want it to be practically invisible. also not interested In buying a barebone. thx for the help though.

Sounds like its time to upgrade and use that 12100f somewhere else.

 

12600kf's are only ~$155 right now, 12700kf's ~$230.

 

Intel Core i5-12600KF - Core i5 12th Gen Alder Lake 10-Core (6P+4E) 3.7 GHz LGA 1700 125W Desktop Processor - BX8071512600KF - Newegg.com

[ulookuglynoob]

22 minutes ago, Agall said:

OP is just being unreasonable, they either need to expand their budget or compromise with a barebones/mini PC.

 

by how much

[ulookuglynoob]

23 minutes ago, Agall said:

OP is just being unreasonable, they either need to expand their budget or compromise with a barebones/mini PC.

 

Sounds like its time to upgrade and use that 12100f somewhere else.

 

12600kf's are only ~$155 right now, 12700kf's ~$230.

 

Intel Core i5-12600KF - Core i5 12th Gen Alder Lake 10-Core (6P+4E) 3.7 GHz LGA 1700 125W Desktop Processor - BX8071512600KF - Newegg.com

should i just upgrade my current cpu instead of making this build?

[filpo]

Just now, ulookuglynoob said:

should i just upgrade my current cpu instead of making this build?

If you don't need the other build then yes. What's your current system specs? if you have a decent mobo then I'd say upgrade to 13600kf

[ulookuglynoob]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

If you don't need the other build then yes. What's your current system specs? if you have a decent mobo then I'd say upgrade to 13600kf

12100f, b660 aorus master ddr4, 3070, apevia jupiter bronze 600w, riptide 3200mhz ddr4 ram. I gotta upgrade my psu too, since it suks and is barely supporting my PC. if I get a 13600kf, then my psu might do something. So should I just upgrade my psu and get a 12600kf?

[Agall]

5 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

should i just upgrade my current cpu instead of making this build?

12100f and 3070 is pretty imbalanced. I wouldn't doubt if you're only getting 70-80% utilization on that 3070 in most games.

 

Drop in CPU upgrade is great for LGA 1700, but you'd have to gives us some specs to see if its worth it past a 12600kf. If you've got a really low budget LGA 1700 motherboard and kit of RAM, it might not even be worth a drop in 12600kf.

 

There's a lot of value to upgrading your current stuff and using those older parts for a spare build.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

So should I just upgrade my psu and get a 12600kf?

Upgrade your psu and get a 13600kf 

what's your cpu cooler and case?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£249.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£97.97 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £346.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 18:42 BST+0100

Edited April 22 by filpo

[ulookuglynoob]

23 minutes ago, filpo said:

Upgrade your psu and get a 13600kf 

what's your cpu cooler and case?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£249.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£97.97 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £346.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-22 18:42 BST+0100

could you fit that like under 330 pls. and USD. cooler stock.

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, ulookuglynoob said:

could you fit that like under 330 pls. 

What case and cooler do you have? 
swap the psu above for this one https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/bpvD4D/msi-mag-a750bn-pcie5-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mag-a750bn-pcie5

[ulookuglynoob]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

What case and cooler do you have? 
swap the psu above for this one https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/bpvD4D/msi-mag-a750bn-pcie5-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-mag-a750bn-pcie5

stock cooler, case is the gamemax view.

[ulookuglynoob]

pls switch pcpartpicker to usd