Time to replace my 1080 TI?

[DutchTexan]

I feel like the old girl is getting tired. I haven’t been in the tech loop for about 6 years, forgive me. I’m looking at the 3090 vs 4070ti debate, but for $650-1100 what’s the best bang for buck out there today? I want performance, but also really appreciate overall performance per dollar.
 

Would it be worth upgrading or waiting another year for prices/another generation since I can still play my games at 1440p ~medium settings.

 

I game @1440p (165hz panel), 850W PSU, and i7 6700k @4.5GHz (how bad is CPU bottleneck?)

 

What GPU’s realistically max out any game at 1440p for the next few years? 4k ultra is actually possible now? 
 

I see 4070 TI’s for $700, but they are MSI slim cards. Undervolted/underclocked?

 

I see an EVGA FTW3 3090 (my favorite cooler) for $1050. 
 

 

[OddOod]

DO NOT buy a 3090. the 3080Ti outperforms it in most games due to the rear mounted memory chips. 
As for is it time to replace it? Yes. They are approaching end of life. I've had two die with code 43

[WereCat]

In new games your CPU is likely holding back even your 1080ti right now so CPU upgrade will be necessary.

I run The Last of Us Part 1 at Ultra at 1440p without any upscaling at 70-80FPS with my 6800XT so anything in that performance tier will do nicely. So something like 4070 Super or better if you want NVIDIA.

The 3090 makes no sense unless you need 24GB VRAM.

[DutchTexan]

4 minutes ago, WereCat said:

In new games your CPU is likely holding back even your 1080ti right now so CPU upgrade will be necessary.

I run The Last of Us Part 1 at Ultra at 1440p without any upscaling at 70-80FPS with my 6800XT so anything in that performance tier will do nicely. So something like 4070 Super or better if you want NVIDIA.

The 3090 makes no sense unless you need 24GB VRAM.

Sounds like I should build a new PC and keep the 1080ti for now then watch the market and get a 4070 TI later?

[DutchTexan]

9 minutes ago, OddOod said:

DO NOT buy a 3090. the 3080Ti outperforms it in most games due to the rear mounted memory chips. 
As for is it time to replace it? Yes. They are approaching end of life. I've had two die with code 43

If I had a newer CPU and motherboard what GPU is the bees knees right now? Which is better, 4070TI for $750 vs 3080 TI for $800? 

[ThePCNerd129]

23 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

I feel like the old girl is getting tired. I haven’t been in the tech loop for about 6 years, forgive me. I’m looking at the 3090 vs 4070ti debate, but for $650-1100 what’s the best bang for buck out there today? I want performance, but also really appreciate overall performance per dollar.
 

Would it be worth upgrading or waiting another year for prices/another generation since I can still play my games at 1440p ~medium settings.

 

I game @1440p (165hz panel), 850W PSU, and i7 6700k @4.5GHz (how bad is CPU bottleneck?)

 

What GPU’s realistically max out any game at 1440p for the next few years? 4k ultra is actually possible now? 
 

I see 4070 TI’s for $700, but they are MSI slim cards. Undervolted/underclocked?

 

I see an EVGA FTW3 3090 (my favorite cooler) for $1050. 
 

 

 Get a 3080ti a bit expensive or heck a 4080 will also get u moving

[DutchTexan]

1 minute ago, ThePCNerd129 said:

 Get a 3080ti a bit expensive or heck a 4080 will also get u moving

What’s better for the money or a better deal than a 3080TI for $800? A 4070TI slim for $700? A 4070 super for $590? A 4080 for $1100?

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

What’s better for the money or a better deal than a 3080TI for $800? A 4070TI slim for $700? A 4070 super for $590? A 4080 for $1100?

A 7900XTX for $900 actually.

[WereCat]

24 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

If I had a newer CPU and motherboard what GPU is the bees knees right now? Which is better, 4070TI for $750 vs 3080 TI for $800? 

Comes down to what you play and your performance expectations but if you want to focus on both higher framerate and better graphics then yea.

[ThePCNerd129]

22 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

What’s better for the money or a better deal than a 3080TI for $800? A 4070TI slim for $700? A 4070 super for $590? A 4080 for $1100?

I wanna say the 4070 super... they are currently the best bang for your buck

[DutchTexan]

42 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

A 7900XTX for $900 actually.

 

36 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Comes down to what you play and your performance expectations but if you want to focus on both higher framerate and better graphics then yea.

 

31 minutes ago, ThePCNerd129 said:

I wanna say the 4070 super... they are currently the best bang for your buck

16GB 4070 TI Super for $800 it is?

[ThePCNerd129]

1 hour ago, DutchTexan said:

 

 

16GB 4070 TI Super for $800 it is?

If you don't like it their should be a return window for you to send it back but yeah the 16g 4070 TI

 

[ThePCNerd129]

You may also wanna do a full system overhaul cuz the 4070 ti will bottleneck your cpu

 

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, DutchTexan said:

 

 

16GB 4070 TI Super for $800 it is?

Not sure how you arrived at that, but if that is what you want, sure.

 

6700K needs replacing as well.  At least to a Ryzen 5600 or Intel 12400 level.

[DutchTexan]

42 minutes ago, ThePCNerd129 said:

If you don't like it their should be a return window for you to send it back but yeah the 16g 4070 TI

 

 

40 minutes ago, ThePCNerd129 said:

You may also wanna do a full system overhaul cuz the 4070 ti will bottleneck your cpu

 

 

32 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Not sure how you arrived at that, but if that is what you want, sure.

 

6700K needs replacing as well.  At least to a Ryzen 5600 or Intel 12400 level.

 Sounds like a plan I ordered the 16gb 4070 ti. Motherboard and CPU will be next. Thank y’all for the help

[DutchTexan]

On 3/21/2024 at 2:18 PM, Dedayog said:

6700K needs replacing as well.  At least to a Ryzen 5600 or Intel 12400 level.

 

On 3/21/2024 at 2:09 PM, ThePCNerd129 said:

You may also wanna do a full system overhaul cuz the 4070 ti will bottleneck your cpu

 

On 3/21/2024 at 11:35 AM, WereCat said:

In new games your CPU is likely holding back even your 1080ti right now so CPU upgrade will be necessary.

 Installed the 16GB 4070 TI and yep, i7 6700K @4.7GHz (my max stable overclock) is a bottleneck. 

 

Snip of hardware monitoring playing Helldivers 2 on ultra settings @1440p. Only when I went super super sampling on resolution did CPU usage come down near maximum.

 

But got around 60-70fps  @ultra 1440P with GPU usage around 30-40%. This up a lot from the 1080TI, but I'm sure the 16GB 4070 TI can do better a lot better with a chip.

 

Sounds like the Internets really likes the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chip. Looking at this next, times sure have moved on..

 

 

[IceCold008]

My 1080ti is showing its age. But i upgraded from a 4770k to a 12700k (massive upgrade) a few years back. Im waiting for the 5000 series and will be looking at between a 5080 to 5090 then upgrade my monitor from 1440p 144hz G-sYnc TN  to 4k. The only problem is either a IPS or OLED both techs have there advantages and disdvantages i cant make my mind up and its annoying. TBH when it comes to CPU bottlenecks the 5000 series is going to bottleneck ANY cpu to date. How much depends on the CPU you have.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, IceCold008 said:

My 1080ti is showing its age. But i upgraded from a 4770k to a 12700k (massive upgrade) a few years back. Im waiting for the 5000 series and will be looking at between a 5080 to 5090 then upgrade my monitor from 1440p 144hz G-sYnc TN  to 4k. The only problem is either a IPS or OLED both techs have there advantages and disdvantages i cant make my mind up and its annoying.

Honestly, I'd have upgraded step process.  Going from 1080ti to 5090 is too spiky.

 

I would have upgraded a gen ago, wel I did.   You're stubbornly holding out til 5000 series and dealing with an aging card.

 

Upgrade more often and enjoy a less spiky performance curve.

[IceCold008]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Honestly, I'd have upgraded step process.  Going from 1080ti to 5090 is too spiky.

 

I would have upgraded a gen ago, wel I did.   You're stubbornly holding out til 5000 series and dealing with an aging card.

 

Upgrade more often and enjoy a less spiky performance curve.

Well i was looking at the 4090 or 4080 when they came out. I was put off at the time with the 4090 melting connectors flare up, so i decided against the 4090 then looked at the 4080 and hated the lack of vram for 4k since i have 3 monitors. So i decided to screw it and wait then came out the super series and i was not impressed with that at all. So hear i am waiting. No matter what comes out next year i will have to upgrade. Atm i got plenty of old games to keep me going.

[ThePCNerd129]

18 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

 

 

 Installed the 16GB 4070 TI and yep, i7 6700K @4.7GHz (my max stable overclock) is a bottleneck. 

 

Snip of hardware monitoring playing Helldivers 2 on ultra settings @1440p. Only when I went super super sampling on resolution did CPU usage come down near maximum.

 

But got around 60-70fps  @ultra 1440P with GPU usage around 30-40%. This up a lot from the 1080TI, but I'm sure the 16GB 4070 TI can do better a lot better with a chip.

 

Sounds like the Internets really likes the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D chip. Looking at this next, times sure have moved on..

 

 

If you're looking for a good starter cpu, go the 5800x or 5900x shouldent bottleneck and they are great cpus

 

[ThePCNerd129]

9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Honestly, I'd have upgraded step process.  Going from 1080ti to 5090 is too spiky.

 

I would have upgraded a gen ago, wel I did.   You're stubbornly holding out til 5000 series and dealing with an aging card.

 

Upgrade more often and enjoy a less spiky performance curve.

If you're looking to upgrade you should upgrade to a 30 series... 

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, IceCold008 said:

Well i was looking at the 4090 or 4080 when they came out. I was put off at the time with the 4090 melting connectors flare up, so i decided against the 4090 then looked at the 4080 and hated the lack of vram for 4k since i have 3 monitors. So i decided to screw it and wait then came out the super series and i was not impressed with that at all. So hear i am waiting. No matter what comes out next year i will have to upgrade. Atm i got plenty of old games to keep me going.

What's wrong with a 4070 or 6950xt?

 

Why the need to go to a 4090?

 

One step from the edge, upgrading more often... Better experience more often.  And cheaper

 

But either way, hope your 1080ti lasts til 5000.

[IceCold008]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

But either way, hope your 1080ti lasts til 5000.

I hope so lol.

Rumour mill on the 5000 series is late this year (doubt it ). Early or mid next year (Most likely).

[DutchTexan]

1 hour ago, IceCold008 said:

My 1080ti is showing its age. But i upgraded from a 4770k to a 12700k (massive upgrade) a few years back. Im waiting for the 5000 series and will be looking at between a 5080 to 5090 then upgrade my monitor from 1440p 144hz G-sYnc TN  to 4k. The only problem is either a IPS or OLED both techs have there advantages and disdvantages i cant make my mind up and its annoying. TBH when it comes to CPU bottlenecks the 5000 series is going to bottleneck ANY cpu to date. How much depends on the CPU you have.

I have a 8 year old predator monitor that’s 1440p IPS panel with 4ms response time. I love the color. Not sure if 4ms is ridiculous by todays standards?

 

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Honestly, I'd have upgraded step process.  Going from 1080ti to 5090 is too spiky.

 

I would have upgraded a gen ago, wel I did.   You're stubbornly holding out til 5000 series and dealing with an aging card.

 

Upgrade more often and enjoy a less spiky performance curve.

Or stay in a hole and then be blown away by how things have moved on to the point where you feel like you got a great deal no matter what

 

I wouldn’t have been able to believe I could get 4TB of M.2 storage with ~7,500mb/s read speeds for $335 6 years ago.

 

 

just bought all this in person. Good deal and happy pairing with a 16GB 4070ti?

 

[WereCat]

6 hours ago, DutchTexan said:

I have a 8 year old predator monitor that’s 1440p IPS panel with 4ms response time. I love the color. Not sure if 4ms is ridiculous by todays standards?

 

Or stay in a hole and then be blown away by how things have moved on to the point where you feel like you got a great deal no matter what

 

I wouldn’t have been able to believe I could get 4TB of M.2 storage with ~7,500mb/s read speeds for $335 6 years ago.

 

 

just bought all this in person. Good deal and happy pairing with a 16GB 4070ti?

 

It's the best gaming CPU so yeah