Intel or Amd ? confused by mixed reviews

[glenn1984]

Hello,

 

im looking to upgrade my pc in the next month or so but because of the mixed reviews im not sure what path to take here.

 

currently im running :

 

Amd 5700x
Asus B550 motherboard

32gb Gskill 3200

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

i was thinking to go for :

 

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WiFi

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Or 

 

Intel® Core™ i5-13600KF

ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A GAMING WIFI or  ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Budget (including currency): not clear yet

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details 

 

[Hinjima]

4 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Hello,

 

im looking to upgrade my pc in the next month or so but because of the mixed reviews im not sure what path to take here.

 

currently im running :

 

Amd 5700x
Asus B550 motherboard

32gb Gskill 3200

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

i was thinking to go for :

 

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WiFi

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Or 

 

Intel® Core™ i5-13600KF

ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A GAMING WIFI or  ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Budget (including currency): not clear yet

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details 

 

Purely for gaming?  7800X3D All the way.

Its not always about the highest FPS but also the 1% lows ( stutter ) in dark blue.

 

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Hello,

 

im looking to upgrade my pc in the next month or so but because of the mixed reviews im not sure what path to take here.

 

currently im running :

 

Amd 5700x
Asus B550 motherboard

32gb Gskill 3200

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

i was thinking to go for :

 

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WiFi

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Or 

 

Intel® Core™ i5-13600KF

ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A GAMING WIFI or  ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Budget (including currency): not clear yet

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details 

 

Why are you upgrading?  The 5700X is perfectly fine for gaming, especially 1440p.

 

[WereCat]

There is absolutely no reason to go for 13th or 14th gen Intel if you're already on a 5000 series AMD as you can pick 5800X3D and get the same or better results in gaming most of the time without any platform changes.

IMO the CPU you have now is still plenty good and you should probably just hold onto it at least until next gen of X3D CPUs on AM5 releases if you want to go that path anyways.

[glenn1984]

13 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Why are you upgrading?  The 5700X is perfectly fine for gaming, especially 1440p.

 

the reason im upgrading is that my brothers pc died and i was planning to renew anyways however im playing in 4k usually. and the 3070ti can do it.

[Agall]

23 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Hello,

 

im looking to upgrade my pc in the next month or so but because of the mixed reviews im not sure what path to take here.

 

currently im running :

 

Amd 5700x
Asus B550 motherboard

32gb Gskill 3200

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

i was thinking to go for :

 

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

ASUS ROG Strix B650-A Gaming WiFi

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Or 

 

Intel® Core™ i5-13600KF

ASUS ROG STRIX B760-A GAMING WIFI or  ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI

2x Kingston FURY 16 GB DDR5-6000

Rtx 3070ti ( keeping this one )

 

Budget (including currency): not clear yet

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details 

 

7800x3D is best in class in multiple ways, average framerate, framerate stability/consistency, power consumption.

 

There's a feeling of skepticism that tons of people have with how much better it is, so there must be a catch, but there really isn't. Its simply the best product for a gaming PC that exists which replaced the 5800x3D being really the 2nd best gaming CPU but not far off a 13600K/14600k (excluding R9 7000x3D CPUs, they're all the class really).

[glenn1984]

Just now, glenn1984 said:

the reason im upgrading is that my brothers pc died and i was planning to renew anyways however im playing in 4k usually. and the 3070ti can do it.

ah and sorry i forgot to mention that i checked online and the current cpu has a 8% bottleneck on my GPU according to the website

and i also wanted the new Mobo for the reason it has a faster internet port then my current one

 

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

ah and sorry i forgot to mention that i checked online and the current cpu has a 8% bottleneck on my GPU according to the website

and i also wanted the new Mobo for the reason it has a faster internet port then my current one

 

That is a complete BS and these websites are a joke. Just ignore it...

 

1.) There is no way to calculate a bottleneck for general use

2.) There will always be a bottleneck somewhere in the system no matter how much money you'll spend

[glenn1984]

21 minutes ago, WereCat said:

That is a complete BS and these websites are a joke. Just ignore it...

 

1.) There is no way to calculate a bottleneck for general use

2.) There will always be a bottleneck somewhere in the system no matter how much money you'll spend

oh ok but i do game alot so ... based on that i cant go wrong with the 7800x3d right ? i want to max the life of the 3070ti though 

[Hinjima]

14 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

oh ok but i do game alot so ... based on that i cant go wrong with the 7800x3d right ? i want to max the life of the 3070ti though 

If you can afford the 7800X3D, absolutely go for it

It will give the 3070 Ti all its chance to go max power.
 

[WereCat]

18 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

oh ok but i do game alot so ... based on that i cant go wrong with the 7800x3d right ? i want to max the life of the 3070ti though 

It's the best gaming CPU right now so...

[Dedayog]

20 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

oh ok but i do game alot so ... based on that i cant go wrong with the 7800x3d right ? i want to max the life of the 3070ti though 

There is a reason we own the 7800x3d, or a variant of.

 

You can listen to us or simply look up comparisons.  It's not like there isn't 500000 YouTube videos showing it ...

 

3070ti is decent but won't last you too much longer as vram may become an issue at 4k.

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, glenn1984 said:

oh ok but i do game alot so ... based on that i cant go wrong with the 7800x3d right ? i want to max the life of the 3070ti though 

At 4k it's literally already maxed by a 5700x with EXTREME ease.

 

4k basically always means the gpu is going to be the thing holding you back the most as it's just VERY hard to drive.

 

Anyways best gaming cpu right now is the 7800x3d it's a non contest.

 

Fyi look at megekko they have a deal goin on to get some steam credit

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/8197/953913/AMD-Socket-AM5-Moederborden/MSI-B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI-moederbord

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/8200/295018/Socket-AM5-Processoren/AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-Processor

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1087682/DDR5-Geheugen/Lexar-DDR5-Ares-RGB-2x16GB-6000MHz-geheugenmodule

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/1994/1073684/CPU-Luchtkoeling/DeepCool-AG620

[glenn1984]

sorry for the delay answering here, i have already a basket setup but now im wondering of i need 2 sticks of 16gb ram or 4,

does one have better performance then the other like 5000 series amd cpu's ?

On 3/4/2024 at 8:54 PM, jaslion said:

At 4k it's literally already maxed by a 5700x with EXTREME ease.

 

4k basically always means the gpu is going to be the thing holding you back the most as it's just VERY hard to drive.

 

Anyways best gaming cpu right now is the 7800x3d it's a non contest.

 

Fyi look at megekko they have a deal goin on to get some steam credit

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/8197/953913/AMD-Socket-AM5-Moederborden/MSI-B650-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI-moederbord

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/8200/295018/Socket-AM5-Processoren/AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-Processor

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/7962/1087682/DDR5-Geheugen/Lexar-DDR5-Ares-RGB-2x16GB-6000MHz-geheugenmodule

 

https://www.megekko.nl/product/1994/1073684/CPU-Luchtkoeling/DeepCool-AG620

 

[TatamiMatt]

16 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

sorry for the delay answering here, i have already a basket setup but now im wondering of i need 2 sticks of 16gb ram or 4,

does one have better performance then the other like 5000 series amd cpu's ?

 

dont get 2 or 4 sticks, get one 32 GB kit which will come with a pair of sticks that were desgined to run with each other, that will offer the best performance

 

good kits to buy

 

without RGB

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/DgVmP6/gskill-trident-z5-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5n

 

With RGB

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/CXKKHx/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5nr

 

Theyre identical sticks in both looks and performance, one just has an RGB bar built in, solely depends on if you want that aesthetic choice

[glenn1984]

On 3/7/2024 at 9:46 AM, TatamiMatt said:

dont get 2 or 4 sticks, get one 32 GB kit which will come with a pair of sticks that were desgined to run with each other, that will offer the best performance

 

good kits to buy

 

without RGB

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/DgVmP6/gskill-trident-z5-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5n

 

With RGB

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/CXKKHx/gskill-trident-z5-neo-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-tz5nr

 

Theyre identical sticks in both looks and performance, one just has an RGB bar built in, solely depends on if you want that aesthetic choice

Hi, quick question again here, the supported ram according to AMD 

 

2x1R DDR5-5200

2x2R DDR5-5200

4x1R DDR5-3600

4x2R DDR5-3600

 

should i then get DDR5-6000 ?

[TatamiMatt]

On 3/9/2024 at 7:07 AM, glenn1984 said:

Hi, quick question again here, the supported ram according to AMD 

 

2x1R DDR5-5200

2x2R DDR5-5200

4x1R DDR5-3600

4x2R DDR5-3600

 

should i then get DDR5-6000 ?

Is this with the 7800X3D and strix board? 6000CL30 is the sweet spot to run and your board and cpu should be able to handle them without issue

[glenn1984]

hello this is what i ordered, however i have one final question. i have the NZXT H7 Flow case, should i top mount the AIO or front mount it ?

 

best regards

 

[Dedayog]

You should mount a different AIO on top.  NZXT makes midrange crap for 2x the price.  But if that's your theme, then yeah on top.

 

 

[glenn1984]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

You should mount a different AIO on top.  NZXT makes midrange crap for 2x the price.  But if that's your theme, then yeah on top.

 

 

oh i never OC the cpu, only factory Boost. and i take NZXT because all my fans then can sync up with the NZXT Cam software because i have this controller for it

 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, glenn1984 said:

oh i never OC the cpu, only factory Boost

That's what I mean, the factory boost will push the chip as far as temps allow.

[glenn1984]

hmmmmm ill have to monitor it closer then

[Dedayog]

25 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

hmmmmm ill have to monitor it closer then

Sorry, I was thinking of another chip.  The X3D will be fine, it doesn't need a lot of cooling.  You'll be fine.  

 

Not sure why I was thinking you were getting a 13th gen intel, may have mixed up threads.

 

Again, more than enough cooling for the 7800X3D.   Look at some PBO/CO guides to reduce temps and power draw as well, if you want.

[glenn1984]

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Sorry, I was thinking of another chip.  The X3D will be fine, it doesn't need a lot of cooling.  You'll be fine.  

 

Not sure why I was thinking you were getting a 13th gen intel, may have mixed up threads.

 

Again, more than enough cooling for the 7800X3D.   Look at some PBO/CO guides to reduce temps and power draw as well, if you want.

ah ok then i should be fine with the setup ive ordered, next up is PSU and Next gen RTX 50 series when they launch

[glenn1984]

Just installed the PC and just noticed that the store send me the wrong ram

i asked for 2 sets of 2x8gb but they send me 2x16 kits and now i have 64gb ram

 

the build is finished though. however the ram did cause some hickups at first so i had to update the bios and now its working fine.

 

however now I’m getting a lot of issues with rebooting.  It takes up to 15min to reboot at times….. and the led is on for the ram

 

 

 

Edited March 23 by glenn1984