Intel or Amd ? confused by mixed reviews

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Just installed the PC and just noticed that the store send me the wrong ram

i asked for 2 sets of 2x8gb but they send me 2x16 kits and now i have 64gb ram

 

the build is finished though. however the ram did cause some hickups at first so i had to update the bios and now its working fine.

 

 

 

Looks really good, well done.

[glenn1984]

41 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Looks really good, well done.

Yes but some issues popped up, pc is on and doing nothing … not even bios currently

[TatamiMatt]

On 3/23/2024 at 7:49 PM, glenn1984 said:

Yes but some issues popped up, pc is on and doing nothing … not even bios currently

Take the ram out of slots 1 and 3 and try again

[Dedayog]

On 3/23/2024 at 3:49 PM, glenn1984 said:

Yes but some issues popped up, pc is on and doing nothing … not even bios currently

Is the screen dark like it's not getting signal or what is happening?

 

 

[BahnStormer]

Don't panic: First boot on AM5 does memory training: can take 10mins or so on 2x16Gb sticks ... I'm sure I've seen people saying it took longer with 4 sticks, but not sure how much longer. 

 

If it is taking 15min on a regular basis, then it implies that there's a problem with the BIOS not storing the memory details properly. Test them 2 sticks at a time?

[glenn1984]

3 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

Don't panic: First boot on AM5 does memory training: can take 10mins or so on 2x16Gb sticks ... I'm sure I've seen people saying it took longer with 4 sticks, but not sure how much longer. 

 

If it is taking 15min on a regular basis, then it implies that there's a problem with the BIOS not storing the memory details properly. Test them 2 sticks at a time?

it was idle like that for like 20-30min and then went red on CPU and its odd though. however i will give it another go and see what it does.

[glenn1984]

3 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Is the screen dark like it's not getting signal or what is happening?

 

 

yes dark screen and it doesnt light up at all.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

yes dark screen and it doesnt light up at all.

Redo all the PSU connections, on both sides of the cable.  Something isn't getting power.   Once that is checked, then we look at defective components.

 

But most likely you connected something wrong.

 

Case in point... I transferred my rig to a new case yesterday and didn't put the case PWR Switch lead in right, no startup.  Even a 30+ year builder gets things wrong when they hurry and don't pay attention.

[glenn1984]

32 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Redo all the PSU connections, on both sides of the cable.  Something isn't getting power.   Once that is checked, then we look at defective components.

 

But most likely you connected something wrong.

 

Case in point... I transferred my rig to a new case yesterday and didn't put the case PWR Switch lead in right, no startup.  Even a 30+ year builder gets things wrong when they hurry and don't pay attention.

Hello, 

 

i just checked everything. everything has been reset to every socket even the CPU, powercables checked and such

and added the two sticks of ram and the pc boots like it did with 2 sticks. i followed BahnStormer's comment and had the pc do the so called memory training.

the pc eventually booted with 64gb at standard settings ( no OC ). does the motherboard have to do the memory training all over again once i set the OC settings ?

 

best regards

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Hello, 

 

i just checked everything. everything has been reset to every socket even the CPU, powercables checked and such

and added the two sticks of ram and the pc boots like it did with 2 sticks. i followed BahnStormer's comment and had the pc do the so called memory training.

the pc eventually booted with 64gb at standard settings ( no OC ). does the motherboard have to do the memory training all over again once i set the OC settings ?

 

best regards

There is a BIOD setting called Memory Context Restore or something, that'll tell it to now retrain every time.

 

Also, the newer BIOS's reduce the training needs a lot.  So make sure you're fully updated.

 

Mine doesn't train long at all anymore.  15-20 second boots now.

[glenn1984]

16 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

There is a BIOD setting called Memory Context Restore or something, that'll tell it to now retrain every time.

 

Also, the newer BIOS's reduce the training needs a lot.  So make sure you're fully updated.

 

Mine doesn't train long at all anymore.  15-20 second boots now.

Ill give it a go.... wish me luck 

[glenn1984]

3 hours ago, Dedayog said:

There is a BIOD setting called Memory Context Restore or something, that'll tell it to now retrain every time.

 

Also, the newer BIOS's reduce the training needs a lot.  So make sure you're fully updated.

 

Mine doesn't train long at all anymore.  15-20 second boots now.

it worked. so all the hassle was Memory training...... 

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, glenn1984 said:

it worked. so all the hassle was Memory training...... 

Sorry that it was such a a hassle but glad it's fixed.

 

Running well now?   

[haydenpk]

Intel and AMD are realy close but probably intel

 

 

[glenn1984]

10 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Sorry that it was such a a hassle but glad it's fixed.

 

Running well now?   

Ive oc’d everything and yes it seems quick now aswel, any way I can boot faster ?

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, glenn1984 said:

Ive oc’d everything and yes it seems quick now aswel, any way I can boot faster ?

Bios update would be the only thing, 4 sticks of DDR5 are unstable and so youll need to memory train every boot id say. Sadly i got the losing lottery in either my board or cpu memory controller as im not stable with 2x16GB of 6000CL32 Trident Neo if i dont memory train

[BahnStormer]

On 3/25/2024 at 5:40 PM, glenn1984 said:

Hello, 

 

i just checked everything. everything has been reset to every socket even the CPU, powercables checked and such

and added the two sticks of ram and the pc boots like it did with 2 sticks. i followed BahnStormer's comment and had the pc do the so called memory training.

the pc eventually booted with 64gb at standard settings ( no OC ). does the motherboard have to do the memory training all over again once i set the OC settings ?

 

best regards

It was just a guess... but I've heard a LOT of comments about people getting caught out with how long memory training takes, ESPECIALLY with 4 sticks.