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Rabbit R1, can it replace the use of smart phone apps in the future?

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 The Rabbit R1 is a new type of personal assistant that might one day replace the use of a smart phone. It runs a new kind AI they call a Large Action Model because it was trained on people using apps instead of language models.rabbit_r1_front.thumb.jpg.ca45fdb1863eb2d095a64058e71b5c7b.jpg

 

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"Rather than build a bunch of APIs and try to convince developers to support the R1, though, Rabbit trained its model on how to use existing apps for itself. The large action model, or LAM, was trained by humans interacting with apps like Spotify and Uber, essentially showing the model how they work. The LAM learned what a Settings icon looked like, how to know when an order was confirmed, and where the search menus are. All that, Lyu says, can be applied to any app anywhere."

 

My thoughts

This looks super promising and really cool but it is really early on in development to know if this is going be as good as they make it sound but what is everyone's thoughts on this?

 

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 https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/9/24030667/rabbit-r1-ai-action-model-price-release-date

 

 

 

Update: let me preface this with idk how accurate this but here's a report that the company sold out of its unit of the rabbit R1 in 1 day which was 10k units  https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/10/24033498/rabbit-r1-sold-out-ces-ai

 

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Essentially a phone with just the smart assistant and nothing else. Great for the elderly but useless for everyone else.

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9 minutes ago, Spart0n said:

 

Summary

 The Rabbit R1 is a new type of personal assistant that might one day replace the use of a smart phone. It runs a new kind AI they call a Large Action Model because it was trained on people using apps instead of language models.rabbit_r1_front.thumb.jpg.ca45fdb1863eb2d095a64058e71b5c7b.jpg

 

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My thoughts

This looks super promising and really cool but it is really early on in development to know if this is going be as good as they make it sound but what is everyone's thoughts on this?

 

Sources

 https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/9/24030667/rabbit-r1-ai-action-model-price-release-date

So it's just a smartphone that can't make calls?

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from the article it seems like they're aiming for a personal assistant that can use apps for you so you can have less screen time (hopefully that's the goal at least)

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So, when are we getting an AI that runs an AI that runs an AI that runs an AI that runs…

 

…for you?

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3 hours ago, Spart0n said:

from the article it seems like they're aiming for a personal assistant that can use apps for you so you can have less screen time (hopefully that's the goal at least)

Less screen time, because you spend all the time screaming at the dumb assistant because it started playing "We Will Rock You" at funeral when you just wanted to check the time...

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Sounds very ambitious and I'm not sure I understand how it works out why you'd want this. I kind of doubt this will be any good, but who knows... Maybe this will be the future. I doubt it though. 

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DOA

Calling It now. At least jibo will have someone to play with

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Update: let me preface this with idk how accurate this but here's a report that the company sold out of its unit of the rabbit R1 in 1 day which was 10k units

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/10/24033498/rabbit-r1-sold-out-ces-ai

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Doubt that plaything has enough grunt to run any sort of AI/LLM, probably a thin&light frontend to an expensive cloud backend........

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3 hours ago, jagdtigger said:

Doubt that plaything has enough grunt to run any sort of AI/LLM, probably a thin&light frontend to an expensive cloud backend........

That's exactly what it is. There might be an NPU for visual recognition, but the GPT is in the the cloud.

Anyways, why would I give my personal information to a company I know very little about. How secure is that data, and how might it be used and sold?

They're on the AI hype-train. Why wouldn't I instead just use an Amazon Alexa device, Google Assistant speaker, or Apple Siri. Ok, so Siri is dumb as rocks...for now. I expect all of these services to migrate over to GPT at some point anyways, and at least they're the devil that I know vs one I don't.

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Answer to the title: No.

 

Nothing more needs to be said.

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if it doesn't run it's shit locally, then i dont want it.

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I don't even use smart assistants. My coworkers think I'm weird, but then they have issues(Siri not understanding the text, or trying to use it with a poor internet connection), and get frustrated. I also think I end up doing things faster than waiting on Siri to respond, and I don't rely on my internet connection for the specific task.

 

Overall, smart assistants just seem like they're more of a hassle than they're worth, including this one.

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On 1/11/2024 at 7:22 PM, da na said:

Seems like 200 units will sell and the servers running the backend will get shut down after a year, making it a very expensive paperweight.

 

Either that or they'll just "change" their business model.

 

Selling personal data, trapping costumers into a subscription, some crypto BS or a good old IPO scam.

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If it's just a thin client that relies on a cloud service to do the heavy lifting, why wouldn't they release it as a smartphone app and leverage that immense install base of existing devices?

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4 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

If it's just a thin client that relies on a cloud service to do the heavy lifting, why wouldn't they release it as a smartphone app and leverage that immense install base of existing devices?

According to the founder he said an app to use other apps wasn't really practical, which kinda makes sense from a development standpoint.

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To be fair, if they tried to do the same on iOS or Android it would be restricted too much by Apple or Google.

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