Motherboard DDR type

[TatamiMatt]

Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it, when upgrading motherboard (looking for an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk) is it worth getting the DDR4 variant as all my current RAM is DDR4 (4x8GB 3200MHz). Or to go with a DDR5 mobo and upgrade my RAM? However, the RAM wont go to waste if i do upgrade as I'm upgrading a secondary computer for a friend with the old CPU and mobo.

[Slizzo]

12th and 13th gen run quite a bit better with a good DDR5 kit compared to a DDR4 kit. If you're going to be repurposing most of the build I'd just get a DDR5 board and memory now.

 

Especially now that DDR5 pricing has come down quite a bit.

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, Slizzo said:

12th and 13th gen run quite a bit better with a good DDR5 kit compared to a DDR4 kit. If you're going to be repurposing most of the build I'd just get a DDR5 board and memory now.

 

Especially now that DDR5 pricing has come down quite a bit.

Yeah, looking for a 13700KF so the extra clock speed on the RAM would be nice, and to "future-proof" it some, just curious if its worth the extra price, thanks!

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Yeah, looking for a 13700KF so the extra clock speed on the RAM would be nice, and to "future-proof" it some, just curious if its worth the extra price, thanks!

It's not future proofing, it's paying more for stuff to last longer (like most things in life).   There is no such thing as future proofing.

 

I concur though, get DDR5 with a new build especially if you can repurpose that RAM anyway.

 

Unless money is really tight, but then you wouldn't be building a new system with a 13700K then :0

 

 

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

It's not future proofing, it's paying more for stuff to last longer (like most things in life).   There is no such thing as future proofing.

 

I concur though, get DDR5 with a new build especially if you can repurpose that RAM anyway.

 

Unless money is really tight, but then you wouldn't be building a new system with a 13700K then :0

 

 

Yeah hence the quotation marks, future proofing doesnt exist in a world with technology progressing how it is 

 

But yeah, its a long term build so money can be saved and/or found if and when needed

[Tetras]

DDR5 builds have come down quite a lot, both the RAM and boards have far less of a premium. This is a build I often suggest for Intel, though FYI, you wouldn't be able to overclock anymore:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rgz8MV

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($346.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $638.87

Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-18 10:10 EDT-0400

 

 

[TatamiMatt]

8 minutes ago, Tetras said:

DDR5 builds have come down quite a lot, both the RAM and boards have far less of a premium. This is a build I often suggest for Intel, though FYI, you wouldn't be able to overclock anymore:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rgz8MV

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($346.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $638.87

Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-18 10:10 EDT-0400

 

 

Ive a decently similar build lined up actually, ive a 3060 12gb currently so thats probably the thing being the most bottlenecked by everything, looking to give everything else an upgrade before upgrading that in the future, though id say itll be a while before i get want to get an upgrade for that

 

Thinking a;

MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk

Frost Commander 140

13700KF

and RAM undecided still but 32GB DDR5 at least

[jaslion]

19 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Ive a decently similar build lined up actually, ive a 3060 12gb currently so thats probably the thing being the most bottlenecked by everything, looking to give everything else an upgrade before upgrading that in the future, though id say itll be a while before i get want to get an upgrade for that

 

Thinking a;

MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk

Frost Commander 140

13700KF

and RAM undecided still but 32GB DDR5 at least

Boards also quite expensive for not really any  reason. You wont be ocing a 13700k anyway since it runs HOT

[filpo]

21 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

and RAM undecided still but 32GB DDR5 at least

try this ram 

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) - PCPartPicker

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Boards also quite expensive for not really any  reason. You wont be ocing a 13700k anyway since it runs HOT

Thats a fair point, however I quite like the ports offered by this board and the built in both bluetooth is something i like and want, the wifi is also a nice bonus but not explicitly required for me. Im open to suggestions for other boards that fit this calibre if you have any!

[Slizzo]

23 hours ago, filpo said:

try this ram 

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) - PCPartPicker

Using this memory on my  X670E build, working great at its' rated speed.

[TatamiMatt]

On 9/18/2023 at 3:40 PM, filpo said:

try this ram 

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) - PCPartPicker

Any suggestions on DDR5 RAM i can get in the UK, this looks ideal but is £140+£25 shipping

 

Edit: Found this, thoughts? Lower clock speed but lower CL also, ik i can overclock the RAM slightly above CPU "rated" speed but 5600 is rated clock speed for 13700KF

Trident Ram

[filpo]

51 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Any suggestions on DDR5 RAM i can get in the UK, this looks ideal but is £120+£25 shipping

 

Edit: Found this, thoughts? Lower clock speed but lower CL also, ik i can overclock the RAM slightly above CPU "rated" speed but 5600 is rated clock speed for 13700KF

Trident Ram

Get this ram then 

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) - PCPartPicker

It's not really available at a better price

[TatamiMatt]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

Get this ram then 

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) - PCPartPicker

It's not really available at a better price

Yeah, thats the pricey one, equivalent to around $200, that one i sent is also G.Skill Trident just slightly lower clock speed but better CL for $144

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, TatamiMatt said:

Any suggestions on DDR5 RAM i can get in the UK, this looks ideal but is £140+£25 shipping

 

Edit: Found this, thoughts? Lower clock speed but lower CL also, ik i can overclock the RAM slightly above CPU "rated" speed but 5600 is rated clock speed for 13700KF

Trident Ram

Do you need RGB?

[filpo]

53 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Yeah, thats the pricey one, equivalent to around $200, that one i sent is also G.Skill Trident just slightly lower clock speed but better CL for $144

if you don't need rgb I'd get this kit of ram G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5NR) - PCPartPicker

[TatamiMatt]

16 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Do you need RGB?

Itd be v.nice but not necessary no

 

@filpo none on amazon for UK and same price with newegg for that one as last one

 

But is this not essentially the same as first posted RAM? Or am i missing something

G.Skill Trident RAM

[filpo]

48 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Itd be v.nice but not necessary no

 

@filpo none on amazon for UK and same price with newegg for that one as last one

 

But is this not essentially the same as first posted RAM? Or am i missing something

G.Skill Trident RAM

That could also work