AMD, you NEED to hire me! - Radeon RX 7600 Review

[AdamFromLTT]

AMD is finally launching a mainstream GPU as part of their RDNA3 clad Radeon 7000 series lineup. And boy, are they being competitive. Especially since Nvidia doesn’t seem to concerned with the low end based on the pricing of their 4060 Ti cards. But can AMD match the Ray Tracing and AI bells and whistles of Team Green? And can AMD beat their own competitively priced 6000 series of video cards? Only one way to find out. by watching our review of AMD Radeon RX 7600.
 

 

[venomtail]

At a glance of all the videos released, the LTT on the surface level or thumbnail wise seems to be the only positive one so far, I wonder why. Some hours will pass before I've watched them all...

[filpo]

POV: Nvidia are finally gonna get beat and no one can say anything about it

 

EDIT (to what @SorryClaire said)

POV: Nvidia already got beat and are really being dug six feet under now

[SorryBella]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

POV: Nvidia are finally gonna get beat and no one can say anything about it

Until you realize that AMD also have its own answer to this thing: 6650XT.

 

MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6650 XT

 

30$ less for 5% loss that you can compensate via tweaking. The only reason 7600 exists would be when the 16GB version launches, and at their rumored price the 6700XT exists to end the party.

[DeerDK]

Sooo, not exactly a dumpsterfire but very irrelevant. They could just have kept making 6600s and 6650xts.

Ugh. I'm dissapointed and annoyed. 

Allright, now it's the waiting game. Either for pricedrops or for the 16gb version to come out and impress by not dissapointing I guess and hope. 

I guess it's a decent little bugger for mainstream, just not the upgrade for my 3060 I had hoped for. Fingers crossed for the xt with some more vram. 

 

Edit: Linus' take made me a tad more optimistic, so I have rephrased my griping a bit. 

[Spotty]

I liked seeing the footage from the original review before AMD made the last minute price cut. I'm glad that didn't get wasted ending up on the cutting room floor.

 

My take away from the video is that the card is okay. No where near as offensive as the turd Nvidia dropped with the 4060Ti the day before. The 8GB VRAM and 128bit memory bus is a much easier pill to swallow on a card that costs $130 less.

Seems AMD is competing with themselves, at least until we see what the 4060 is like when it comes out in July. The 6650XT and 6700XT look like they still might be better options especially if the price on those cards drops further or specials are available when they try to clear them out.

[Vishera]

The RX 7600 is underwhelming,

For this price i recommend buying either the 6700 XT or the 6700.

[RednGold21]

You know what I'm just happy to see competitors lowering prices to fight for market share. It seems like the gpu market has been terrible since the mid 2010s. Undoubtedly the price will be lowered on the 7600 to probably 250 then 200 making it a nice mid range option. This is how you used to be able to buy gpus. MSRP was the starting point for price not the end goal.

[Anfros]

32 minutes ago, Vishera said:

The RX 7600 is underwhelming,

For this price i recommend buying either the 6700 XT or the 6700.

Except the 6700XT is ~40% more expensive, and the 6700 doesn't seem to be available anymore, at least in my part of the world.

[WereCat]

This card may end up more relevant in EU market than in US considering we see lesser price drops of the last gen... But will still be very close to 6650 XT.

[WereCat]

7 minutes ago, Anfros said:

Except the 6700XT is ~40% more expensive, and the 6700 doesn't seem to be available anymore, at least in my part of the world.

In my country the 6700 are available but cost more than 6700 XT

[Bigbenirv]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

At a glance of all the videos released, the LTT on the surface level or thumbnail wise seems to be the only positive one so far, I wonder why. Some hours will pass before I've watched them all...

I would not say it was positive, I'd say the overall tone of the video was "it is meh, 6000 series is probably a better value" 

[Anfros]

2 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

I would not say it was positive, I'd say the overall tone of the video was "it is meh, 6000 series is probably a better value" 

On the whole I'd say LTT and honestly everyone seems to be relieved and excited that there might just be affordable and reasonable value GPUs on the market again. You can talk value all you want, but absolute cost is also important. The fact that there are 6000 cards that are better value for pure gaming doesn't really matter, especially when those cards are likely to fall out of stock pretty soon, plus AMD cards have a history of improving performance over time from drivers.

[dinnerhe]

 

23 minutes ago, WereCat said:

In my country the 6700 are available but cost more than 6700 XT

In US(and China) XFX is selling 6700 for $269. So if you are in places where the price of 6700 is normal, you get the same performance as 7600 and 2GB more VRAM for the same price….

[WereCat]

21 minutes ago, dinnerhe said:

 

In US(and China) XFX is selling 6700 for $269. So if you are in places where the price of 6700 is normal, you get the same performance as 7600 and 2GB more VRAM for the same price….

6700XT starts at 370 eur

6700 at 380eur

6650XT at 270eur

[Kid.Lazer]

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

The RX 7600 is underwhelming,

For this price i recommend buying either the 6700 XT or the 6700.

I've been begging for a real review of the 6700 10GB forever. It blows my mind that it has been largely ignored.

[Vymix]

I still don't understand too much of all this stuff about GPUs, I just hope that my 6900XT was a good choice. I never see it in the comparison graphs...

[DeerDK]

7 minutes ago, Kid.Lazer said:

I've been begging for a real review of the 6700 10GB forever. It blows my mind that it has been largely ignored.

Same. It's frustrating. 

Jarred at Toms hardware got started at it with an article name something about rx 6700 only 299 usd, but he apparently got sidetracked with all the new releases

[GOTSpectrum]

If your budget is this low, go used IMO, a Used 6700 xt, with 12GB of VRAM and higher performance for a little extra. 

 

If you are in the UK, trade in your old GPU and get a little off this, this is a used 6700 XT with two years warranty for 300

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sgrasap6700xt12g03&categoryName=graphics-cards-pci-e&superCatName=computing&title=saphire-radeon-rx-6700-xt-pulse-12gb-gddr6

[dinnerhe]

2 hours ago, DeerDK said:

Same. It's frustrating. 

Jarred at Toms hardware got started at it with an article name something about rx 6700 only 299 usd, but he apparently got sidetracked with all the new releases

Probably because 6700 was initially sold as mining card in different name(BC-2235) in late 2021. Then since the crypto mining wave ended in mid 2022, AMD rebranded it back to 6700 for consumer market. However I only see XFX and Sapphire selling it in US and China. I got mine for $330 earlier this year to replace my RX580 and I’m also kinda confusing when I searched it online. But so far it’s working fine and meet all my needs in 1080P. This short video from RandomGamingHD shows his performance comparing to 3060ti.

 

[DeerDK]

5 minutes ago, dinnerhe said:

Probably because 6700 was initially sold as mining card in different name(BC-2235) in late 2021. Then since the crypto mining wave ended in mid 2022, AMD rebranded it back to 6700 for consumer market. However I only see XFX and Sapphire selling it in US and China. I got mine for $330 earlier this year to replace my RX580 and I’m also kinda confusing when I searched it online. But so far it’s working fine and meet all my needs in 1080P. This short video from RandomGamingHD shows his performance comparing to 3060ti.

 

 

2 hours ago, Kid.Lazer said:

I've been begging for a real review of the 6700 10GB forever. It blows my mind that it has been largely ignored.

Found it!

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-rx-6700-10gb-299-dollars

He answers some of the questions in the debate underneath. I think he finished the testing but just didn't get around to write the article.

[MyNameWontFi]

For the 3rd time, you guys need to get your shit together if you want people to take your lab results seriously. There is no way in hell a 6700XT beats a 4070 in F1 22.

 

 

 

[venomtail]

3 hours ago, Vymix said:

I still don't understand too much of all this stuff about GPUs, I just hope that my 6900XT was a good choice. I never see it in the comparison graphs...

I'd advise changing the mindset because wondering if you made a good choice all these years later will always be a losing battle. New things come and go, things that no one can predit, you might even change with the priorities and needs of what you're looking for, no longer fitting what you wanted and paid for all these years later. As long as there wasn't active ignorance, you should be happy with what you bough, when you bought it and enjoy it. You can't min max life and every decition in it.

 

Except the 1080TI. The 1080TI is an exception. It'll go down in history as the best call when it came out.

[Spotty]

58 minutes ago, MyNameWontFi said:

For the 3rd time, you guys need to get your shit together if you want people to take your lab results seriously. There is no way in hell a 6700XT beats a 4070 in F1 22.

-snip-

It does seem strange that the 6700XT would perform so highly against the RTX 4070 there. It might be worthwhile for somebody from LTT/the lab to double check those results.

 

One thing to note is that Hardware Unboxed's review has ray tracing enabled, which Nvidia's cards perform better at, while LTTs tests have ray tracing disabled. That's why there's such a huge discrepancy between the FPS values the two outlets are reporting (81FPS for the 7600 with RT in HU video and 147FPS without RT in LTTs). The poorer RT performance on AMD last gen cards might explain why the 6700XT performed much worse in hardware unboxed's tests compared to in LTTs tests with it disabled. Steve from HU even mentions the poor RT performance on the previous gen AMD cards during the F1 2022 portion of his 7600 review.

 

I don't think that fully explains why the 6700XT is ranked so highly relative to the RTX 4070 in LTTs test, but I wanted to mention it since you can't directly compare LTT's and Hardware Unboxed's results as RT on vs RT off makes a big difference.

 

For what it's worth LTT's RTX 4070 results in the RX 7600 video are in line with the results they got for the 4070 during their original 4070 review.

https://youtu.be/nkh9VGCY8as?t=129

 

 

The RTX 4070 and RX6700XT results in the RX 7600 review are also identical to their RTX 4060Ti 8GB review from yesterday too. Though, since the reviews were released 1 day apart they may have used the same data for both reviews. There wouldn't be much point running the same benchmark tests a day apart just for a separate video. It looks like they just added the RX 7600 to the chart from the RTX 4060Ti 8GB review.

 

 

Unfortunately LTT's original review of the 6700XT only included 1440p benchmarks and that was in F1 2020 not F1 2022 so I can't compare the two results and I'm not sure which other reviews they've done with F1 22 at 1080p that included the 6700XT as a comparison that I could bring up to check.

 

 

Gamers Nexus included F1 2022 1080p in their RX 7600 review as well and it appears to be with RT disabled. It seems like Gamers Nexus and LTT are testing with more similar settings, with most of the cards within a small percentage difference between LTT and Gamers Nexus, which should provide a better like to like comparison than Hardware Unboxed's tests which use RT. (You can't directly compare the results from two different reviewers who might be using different systems or settings but this at least gives a closer comparison than against Hardware Unboxed's Ray Traced results)

 

Gamers Nexus has a similar FPS score for the 6700XT (193 FPS vs LTT's 189 FPS) but their RTX 4070 score is much higher (224 FPS vs LTT's 180 FPS).

https://youtu.be/MCxYfXe1DAA?t=1084

 

All of GNs and LTTs AMD card tests on F1 2022 1080p perform almost identically. LTT's Nvidia cards however all perform worse than GNs. This might be down to the individual settings that each review outlet are using, with LTT maybe using some settings that disproportionately effect Nvidia's performance more. It could also be that the two are benchmarking on different scenes that might be more or less taxing depending on what is occurring in the scene. It might not be that LTT's results are "wrong", they might just be different due to different factors.

Edited May 24, 2023 by Spotty

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