8350vs8320

[i_build_nanosuits]

Here, this is what i would go with for modern gaming (battlefield) as of today, if you have more budget than that you could upgrade the SSD to a 240gb and get a better case, if you

have less than that to spend, cut the SSD off and/or go with a GTX 770 or radeon r9 280x

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($67.99 @ Micro Center)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($492.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $1017.89

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-11 20:39 EDT-0400)

[deathjester]

Here, this is what i would go with for modern gaming (battlefield) as of today, if you have more budget than that you could upgrade the SSD to a 240gb and get a better case, if you

have less than that to spend, cut the SSD off and/or go with a GTX 770 or radeon r9 280x

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ NCIX US)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)

Memory: Kingston Fury Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($67.99 @ Micro Center)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($492.98 @ SuperBiiz)

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $1017.89

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-11 20:39 EDT-0400)

 

Why not a r9 290? Will help the 8320 on Mantle games. Hell I am probably grabbing two of those suckers soon.  Crossfire works on cheaper boards, where SLI doesn't.

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS84DFU/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

379 bucks... I drink a few more beers tonight and I just might buy 2 lol. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

Why not a r9 290? Will help the 8320 on Mantle games. Hell I am probably grabbing two of those suckers soon.  Crossfire works on cheaper boards, where SLI doesn't.

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS84DFU/?tag=pcpapi-20

 

379 bucks... I drink a few more beers tonight and I just might buy 2 lol.

Indeed this is a very good price for this card, we can add this as a suggestion to the OP if he want to save some bucks this card performs

on the same level as the GTX 780. It consumes a little more and output some more heat though but nothing out of control.

[pjm0925]

I got an 8320 and an R9 290 back during the black friday deals, no regrets both perform great at 1080p for the money.  Might get a second 290 now I see the prices are coming down.

[Akolyte]

The 8350 is the better of the two in my opinion.  But, You dont have to blow the budget to go Intel, I advise getting an Intel i5 4440, which costs slightly more than the highest i3.  You can still do minor overclocks on the 4440 but nothing like you can on the 4670k.  But in my opinion I prefer Intel because its newer and AMD FX 8350/8320 in my opinion is starting to get old.  So, I recommend going with the Intel i5 4440. Also, without overclocking the stock cooler will have no probs cooling the 4440 because its not as higher clocked as the 4670(k) and its still faster than the 8350 because of its faster single threaded performance.  

 

However, out of the two I recommend the 8350.  Why? Because its clocked faster right off the bat and with the 8320, you have to overclock it to reach performance of the 8350.  But if your going to overclock 100%, the 8320 might be the way to go. 

[Totally-A-Hero]

The 8350 is the better of the two in my opinion.  But, You dont have to blow the budget to go Intel, I advise getting an Intel i5 4440, which costs slightly more than the highest i3.  You can still do minor overclocks on the 4440 but nothing like you can on the 4670k.  But in my opinion I prefer Intel because its newer and AMD FX 8350/8320 in my opinion is starting to get old.  So, I recommend going with the Intel i5 4440. Also, without overclocking the stock cooler will have no probs cooling the 4440 because its not as higher clocked as the 4670(k) and its still faster than the 8350 because of its faster single threaded performance.  

 

However, out of the two I recommend the 8350.  Why? Because its clocked faster right off the bat and with the 8320, you have to overclock it to reach performance of the 8350.  But if your going to overclock 100%, the 8320 might be the way to go. 

I plan on over clocking and am for sure going with the 8320.

 

Indeed this is a very good price for this card, we can add this as a suggestion to the OP if he want to save some bucks this card performs

on the same level as the GTX 780. It consumes a little more and output some more heat though but nothing out of control.

Wow this is a great deal i was gonna go with a 7950 for $230 and then get a monitor but this is amazing may buy this and hold out on monitor,will i need to change motherboards to run this?

[i_build_nanosuits]

I plan on over clocking and am for sure going with the 8320.

 

Wow this is a great deal i was gonna go with a 7950 for $230 and then get a monitor but this is amazing may buy this and hold out on monitor,will i need to change motherboards to run this?

Aboslutely not, every GPU will fit on this motherboard that we've recommanded, as well as any CPU from the FX line-up, and any DDR3 ram sticks...make sure you get 2x4GB for dual chanel performance. No need for more than 8gb total for gaming

and speed won't change anything for gaming either.

I must admit the r9 290 is very tempting at this price it's an awesome performer.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Better than the 770?

 

Aboslutely not, every GPU will fit on this motherboard that we've recommanded, as well as any CPU from the FX line-up.
I must admit the r9 290 is very tempting at this price it's an awesome performer.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Better than the 770?

Absolutely, the 780 is about 30% faster overall than the 770, and the r9 290 at stock clock is about 5% faster than the 780 at stock clock.

the 780 is a better overclocker though so at max clock speed on both card the 780 is about 5% faster than the 290...

At this price get the r9 290!

The r9 290 also has better memory configuration (512bit memory bus and 4gb VRAM) making it a much better performer on high resolution...at 4K for example

the 290 is a good 20% faster than the GTX 780.

 

The downside as i mentionned already is that the 290 consumes a little more power and output some more heat...it come quite agressively clocked from AMD already

this explains this power consumption difference...but once both cards are overclocked the difference is negligeable.

[Totally-A-Hero]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Ii7e Value on this build way too op my origanal budget was 1g with tax but ima snag this card right now and then buy the rest of the parts later.

 

Absolutely, the 780 is about 30% faster overall than the 770, and the r9 290 at stock clock is about 5% faster than the 780 at stock clock.

the 780 is a better overclocker though so at max clock speed on both card the 780 is about 5% faster than the 290...

At this price get the r9 290!

[i_build_nanosuits]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Ii7e Value on this build way too op my origanal budget was 1g with tax but ima snag this card right now and then buy the rest of the parts later.

Sounds really good, this is a killer system and you will be able to use mantle on top of that, awesome choices. Good luck and have fun !

[Faceman]

So i wanna get 1 of these but am on a strict budget,i use to have the 8350 in the cart but changed to 8320 when it went up $50.

 

8350:$180:00

 

8320:$150.00

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IiBB

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IiBB/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3IiBB/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($219.99 @ Amazon)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($84.99 @ Micro Center)

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($71.10 @ Newegg)

Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($63.00 @ Newegg)

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.43 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($379.99 @ Amazon)

Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $981.47

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-05-11 22:01 EDT-0400)

 

If you live near a Microcenter, you can pick up a Intel i5-4670k for $189.  Also, if you buy a compatible motherboard, you get an additional $30 off.  I did not factor those prices into cost.

You can also save an additional $70 by going with a GTX 770.

[i_build_nanosuits]

The FX 8 core CPU will run games on full details for a much longer period of time, the core i5 CPU is already used to 90 or 95% in modern online games like BF4 or crysis 3 multiplayer...what will this CPU do in future

games like battlefield 5 for example? lower settings.

 

Next generation of games will use and require those 8 thread capable chips, so if OP wants to go with intel i would suggest a xeon 1230v3 or any other hyperthreaded CPU. But that cost quite a bit more.

[nokturrduk84]

@Faceman's suggested build is far better choice. With i5 4670k you get more fps in games & more performance in general while with FX CPU you get old architecture & you go step backward.

[i_build_nanosuits]

OP,  do your own research and draw your own conclusions 

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok so i checked micro center and for in store pick up (i leave near 1) i can get a 8350 for 159.99 and bundle with a good mother board for $240 or go intel and get a i5 4670k for about $240 with mobo.Obviosly the 8350 mobo is superior and has all the bels and whistles,wich one do you think is beter?

[Faceman]

Ok so i checked micro center and for in store pick up (i leave near 1) i can get a 8350 for 159.99 and bundle with a good mother board for $240 or go intel and get a i5 4670k for about $240 with mobo.Obviosly the 8350 mobo is superior and has all the bels and whistles,wich one do you think is beter?

Intel. 

[nokturrduk84]

Ok so i checked micro center and for in store pick up (i leave near 1) i can get a 8350 for 159.99 and bundle with a good mother board for $240 or go intel and get a i5 4670k for about $240 with mobo.Obviosly the 8350 mobo is superior and has all the bels and whistles,wich one do you think is beter?

Intel.

[Totally-A-Hero]

@i_build_nanosuits What do you think?

[Mentalguy]

Ok so i checked micro center and for in store pick up (i leave near 1) i can get a 8350 for 159.99 and bundle with a good mother board for $240 or go intel and get a i5 4670k for about $240 with mobo.Obviosly the 8350 mobo is superior and has all the bels and whistles,wich one do you think is beter

for that price, id go intel, dont worry about the motherboard in the intel side, as long as it has everything you want it will do the job. You have to be a bit more picky on the AMD side, more so if you are overclocking.

 

if you can link the bundles that would help

[Totally-A-Hero]

  AMD: http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

 

  Intel:  http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

 

  Not sure if it matters but im getting a r9 290 and plan on crossfire in future as well as overclocking.

 

@Mentalguy

[Bagmup]

AMD: http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx

 

  Intel:  http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx

 

  Not sure if it matters but im getting a r9 290 and plan on crossfire in future as well as overclocking.

 

@Mentalguy

Looking at those bundles kills me inside as an Australian, we're paying $380 just for a 4770k

[i_build_nanosuits]

@i_build_nanosuits What do you think?

Well, you've mentionned you might want to go crossfire in the future so make sure the board included in the bundle wheter you AMD or intel SUPPORTS crossfire with at least 8x/8x PCIe slot speed, 16x/16x

would be even better...

Now AMD or intel, look, it all depends on what you are going to play with the PC, you must be aware that intel has a much higher IPC (instructions per clock) than AMD so in games that use

less than 2 or 3 heavy threads (here we are talking mostly old games, or new games but with old tech, old game engines, example : most online MMO's (ESO, planetside2) blizzard games, most RPG or strategy games)

In any modern games that use more than 3 or 4 and as up to 8 cores you won't see any difference (FPS (BF4, crysis 3) Action games (Max payne, far cry, tomb raider hitman etc.) racing games, sports games etc..)

Also what is good to note is that it is said that in the long run because of the new mainstream consoles being 8 core AMD machines, the games that will be developped for those consoles and then ported to

PC will most likely run better with similar hardware (8 thread capable CPU's, graphics card with lots of VRAM...)

NOW, the offer on the core i5 is very tempting, why? , because at any day to day task the i5 will be slighlty faster, it also consumes less power and run cooler, and in most games you won't feel the difference, the only scary thing about it is: In modern games that can take advantage of 6 or 8 threads like BF4 or Crysis 3 for example the core i5 is already seing usage around 90 to 95% in multiplayer matchups, this tend to indicate that this CPU can't deliver much more in modern games and it will most likely become a bottleneck in future games rather quickly...how will it handle battlefield 5 for example if it is already used at 90% capacity in BF4?...

***now i opened a can, the core i5 has been the number 1 recommanded gaming chip for the last couple years and it does really well in any current gen games, but with next gen games things are changing and a quad core 4 thread CPU might just be too short rather quickly. I tell you now, people will disagree with what i'm saying this morning for sure, but make your research for yourself and see...***

So, the call is yours...i see the FX better in the long run for some reasons, the intel chip is better in many other aspects, the ideal solution would be a core i7 or a xeon 1230v3.

Also if you stream or record gaming or like to do other stuff and other applications running WHILE playing there the FX 8 core is much better at not getting a performance hit, also

for rendering, 3d modeling, video editing the FX is flatout superior to the core i5 in most scenarios.

 

This could be a good read for better understanding before buying a new PC:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-future-proofing-your-pc-for-next-gen

 

If you take 5 minutes to just read through that carefully and you will be able to take a good decision.

 

ALSO you must know that the AM3+ socket is most likely a dead socket for AMD, The FX 8 core will hold strong for the entire PS4/XBone erra being a good 40% faster than both consoles and can reach up to 50% faster once clocked properly

but if you go intel i5 you still have an upgrade path toward a core i7 in the future or even a 6core/12threads core i7 (i7-4930K for example)...

 

EDIT: OP also note that your graphics card brand (Nvidia/AMD) choice has nothing to do with your CPU choice, if you go with a radeon you can use mantle both with the FX or the intel chip, if you go nvidia it will work just as well with both CPU they are not related. The r9 290 is indeed a good choice if it's better priced than a gtx 780, if not i would pick a GTX.

[Totally-A-Hero]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 This board matches is the one that comes with the bundle for intel.This board comes with AMD bundle for same price.This is the bundle that the AMD board comes with   http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard I think that the intel bundle for oonly $40 more but im not sure.Right now the 8320 will fit all of my needs and do them well,but in the future this means i have to change boards,but with the intel board i might have to change too.To overclock maybe not sure. @i_build_nanosuits

[Faa]

@Totally-A-Hero I still play BC2 & Battlefield 3 and theyre still cpu bound with a single 780/r9 290. Strike at karkand in BF3 is a very cpu intensive map where its complety impossible to obtain more than 60 fps there even with 2 780's in a TDM match. BF3 doesnt take advantage of more than 4 cores so a i5 is probably your best bet for this game. Rest of your games, it doesnt matter what cpu you got.