8350vs8320

[Faa]

The gigabyte does cool about 2-3 degrees better under load but dosent look as cool and costs more.But i have heard GREAT things about gigabyte and never heard of XFX.Also i never new there was a free game bundle when i click on the part i dont see it. @Faa @GzeroD

The gigabyte is just 380$ here? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HS84DFU/?tag=pcpapi-20

[GzeroD]

The gigabyte does cool about 2-3 degrees better under load but dosent look as cool and costs more.But i have heard GREAT things about gigabyte and never heard of XFX.Also i never new there was a free game bundle when i click on the part i dont see it. @Faa @GzeroD

XFX is an established brand known for making "more cost effective parts"(cheaper) but they do stand behind their warranty and every card I have bought from them has performed as expected. http://sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloadedforever.aspx is the page for the free games both amazon and newegg are listed so either of those cards should come with the voucher for the free games of your choice (from that selection)

[Totally-A-Hero]

I have a $50 amazon card so i went gigabyte and 3 free games is awesome! @Faa @GzeroD

[GzeroD]

I have a $50 amazon card so i went gigabyte and 3 free games is awesome! @Faa @GzeroD

I doubt you will be disappointed. also if your ordering anything from NCIXus I think I have a gift code that should be worth $20 off your order if you want it I can PM it to you.

[Vrbas]

 

Here, i5-4670K 3.4GHz. with 780 on ultra settings in BF4. As you see fps stays above 100, in some cases goes to 140, while AMD 8350 gets 70 fps average on 4GHz average. And i5-4670K costs only 220$ which as you see worth every $.

This made me laugh I'm sorry but he is in a Jet looking at the sky... Notice it drops below 60 when hes starts shooting at the ground? My 660 get 150+ when looking at the sky.

[GzeroD]

This made me laugh I'm sorry but he is in a Jet looking at the sky... Notice it drops below 60 when hes starts shooting at the ground? My 660 get 150+ when looking at the sky.

Some how I doubt your running anywhere near the same settings.

[Totally-A-Hero]

I doubt you will be disappointed. also if your ordering anything from NCIXus I think I have a gift code that should be worth $20 off your order if you want it I can PM it to you.

Ok ya sure!

[Totally-A-Hero]

I gotta say you guys have been way too kind!I appreciate all of the help and it looks like im gonna get a killer build for cheap thanks to all of the recomendations and dicounts!

[nokturrduk84]

This made me laugh I'm sorry but he is in a Jet looking at the sky... Notice it drops below 60 when hes starts shooting at the ground? My 660 get 150+ when looking at the sky.

Don't tell the fairytales plz. GTX 660 on Ultra in BF4 & 150 fps? 

[Faceman]

I dont want a 770 u noob,for about $50 more i can pick up 290 that it outperoms by quite a bit.

You were ready to buy an AMD processor and a7950 which would be severely disappointing compared to a 770 and Intel yet i'm the noob? I'm only trying to help. Get the Gigabyte R9 if your budget allows. I suggested the 770 + i5-4670k because that is a very popular option for powerful 1080p gaming while remaining at budget.

[GzeroD]

You were ready to buy an AMD processor and a7950 which would be severely disappointing compared to a 770 and Intel yet i'm the noob? I'm only trying to help. Get the Gigabyte R9 if your budget allows. I suggested the 770 + i5-4670k because that is a very popular option for powerful 1080p gaming while remaining at budget.

The man speaks the truth.  Although I still prefer AMD gpu's the 770 since its price drop is very strong if you where stuck in its price range it would easily out perform the 7950.

[Vrbas]

Don't tell the fairytales plz. GTX 660 on Ultra in BF4 & 150 fps? 

Need to read man

[deathjester]

The man speaks the truth.  Although I still prefer AMD gpu's the 770 since its price drop is very strong if you where stuck in its price range it would easily out perform the 7950.

 

Think he picked a R9 290 which is good for a few reasons.

 

1) he is getting a MSI Z87-G41 in his build (I have the same motherboard on my 4770k). It is a great budget board that overclocks as well as anything out there.

2) That board supports crossfire but not SLI, which is why it is so affordable.

3) There is nothing wrong with an R9 290 on a aftermarket fan. They are simply the best price/performance going right now. 379 bucks for the Gigabyte is an absolute steal. 4 GB VRAM is also much better if you play on adding a second card, and a 4GB GTX 770 is stupid because two of them won't do 4k and a 4GB GTX 770 would cost the same. This isn't years ago when AMD had driver problems. The new consoles use AMD GPU's. I don't see it being a problem going forward.

 

No he shouldn't have called someone a noob, but I would go r9 290 all day over a GTX 770 atm. I plan on getting two myself in the future. I originally planned getting two at build time, but the r9 290's were like 200 bucks more due to lite coin mining. I am just going to flip my GTX 770 in a build with a discount and go AMD on the GPU's, because they absolutely kill Nvidia price/performance at that price bracket and are pretty damn good in crossfire at higher resolutions. I5 K, that motherboard and 2 r9 290's is pretty much the cheapest, best bang for the buck you could possibly build for high resolutions.

 

Since the word noob has been used in this thread though, I am forced to link one of the greatest video game songs ever produced.

 

[Totally-A-Hero]

Yes im sorry i called you  noob,i admit i am the noob here. Would it be a bad idea to get the SSD 128 gb first and then add the 1tb hard drive?im not gonna rack up space that fast.

[Faceman]

Yes im sorry i called you  noob,i admit i am the noob here. Would it be a bad idea to get the SSD 128 gb first and then add the 1tb hard drive?im not gonna rack up space that fast.

Yes, I would go with the SSD first because it is harder to go from HDD to SSD.  Transferring your operating system, C drive, and all necessary programs from HDD to SSD can be a hassle. You will be surprised how quick a 128GB SSD fills up though.  After installing your operating system, you will be down to probably 80-100GB. 

[GzeroD]

128 GB is not a lot of space, just installing windows and the games you get free will probably use up most of it (SSDs work best when there is a bit of free space left on them)  that being said I don't think I will ever build another PC without an ssd for it's boot drive.

[Faceman]

128 GB is not a lot of space, just installing windows and the games you get free will probably use up most of it (SSDs work best when there is a bit of free space left on them)  that being said I don't think I will ever build another PC without an ssd for it's boot drive.

Same, I used an SSD for the first time on my PC just this year, and the performance is just wow. @Totally-A-Hero  128GB will buy you some time, but be ready to buy at least 1TB in the near future.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok thanks that was my thought do you have a brand recomendation? i want it cheap as possible tho.

 

Yes, I would go with the SSD first because it is harder to go from HDD to SSD.  Transferring your operating system, C drive, and all necessary programs from HDD to SSD can be a hassle. You will be surprised how quick a 128GB SSD fills up though.  After installing your operating system, you will be down to probably 80-100GB. 

 

 

@GzeroD  Because of the code you gave me i decided to go with the XfX because i got an extra $20 off on newegg. Also here is the build with a SSD ! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3J1aS is there any other changes? recomendations before i execute the oreder and start purchasing?

[Faceman]

Ok thanks that was my thought do you have a brand recomendation? i want it cheap as possible tho.

 

 

 

@GzeroD  Because of the code you gave me i decided to go with the XfX because i got an extra $20 off on newegg. Also here is the build with a SSD ! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3J1aS is there any other changes? recomendations before i execute the oreder and start purchasing?

It looks good, I would double check to make sure the Hyper 212 EVO will fit inside that case.  Also, when you click the link to the RAM on Amazon, it shows the price at $90+.  Here is another kit of 1866, 9-9-9-24, 1.5v RAM that is $71 through Newegg.  Should also match the color of your motherboard.

 

All in all, a very powerful computer that will be incredibly powerful from day one, and for many years to come as well as being upgrade-ready!  At under $1,000 that is a tremendous computer!

[Totally-A-Hero]

It looks good, I would double check to make sure the Hyper 212 EVO will fit inside that case.  Also, when you click the link to the RAM on Amazon, it shows the price at $90+.  Here is another kit of 1866, 9-9-9-24, 1.5v RAM that is $71 through Newegg.  Should also match the color of your motherboard.

 

All in all, a very powerful computer that will be incredibly powerful from day one, and for many years to come as well as being upgrade-ready!  At under $1,000 that is a tremendous computer!

Ok i changed over the RAM and made sure the Cooler fit in my case,i dont plan on keeping that case for long,im worried it will get a little hot with a 290 in there!

[Faceman]

Ok i changed over the RAM and made sure the Cooler fit in my case,i dont plan on keeping that case for long,im worried it will get a little hot with a 290 in there!

No, I wouldn't be to worried about it, the case is on the larger side of mid ATX cases, so the airflow should be sufficient.  If anything, you could replace the case fans to make it cooler and quieter.  If you really don't like it, then you could buy a new case.

[GzeroD]

There have been a lot of complaints about the most recent revision of the v300 from kingston and them using much lower quality memory or something simmilar (my v300 works as advertised but others in the forum gad some issues), if I where you I would look at a different ssd  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1 is pretty good. Otherwise you have yourself a Very good Quality build right there.

[GzeroD]

No, I wouldn't be to worried about it, the case is on the larger side of mid ATX cases, so the airflow should be sufficient.  If anything, you could replace the case fans to make it cooler and quieter.  If you really don't like it, then you could buy a new case.

I was so strapped for cash the first build I made I screwed everything to a piece of MDF and left it there hanging on the wall facing side of my desk for like 2 months until I could afford a case. Good times.

[Faceman]

There have been a lot of complaints about the most recent revision of the v300 from kingston and them using much lower quality memory or something simmilar (my v300 works as advertised but others in the forum gad some issues), if I where you I would look at a different ssd  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1 is pretty good. Otherwise you have yourself a Very good Quality build right there.

      I also have a Kingston V300 with the supposed "bad" NAND flash.  My system still goes from off to on and running programs in 8-10 seconds, for a "bad" product, that is fast.  Something to consider with SSDs, is that the rated speeds which they are measured by are for extremely large file transfers, which the average user probably wont be doing often.  For day-to-day tasks, I believe that all SSDs perform the same. 

 

     Check out this study done by Tom's Hardware that compares 3gb/s to 6gb/s SATA ports and SSDs.  If you read the entire review, there are some interesting nuggets of information that basically show that the high to low end SSDs are clustered together in terms of daily performance.  The Kingston V300 is not listed in this study, but there is a good enough sample size of various SSDs that should serve as a rough guide.  If someone has the budget, I will say sure, go for the Samsung, but for the most part, I say go with the least expensive SSD at your desired size.

[Totally-A-Hero]

There have been a lot of complaints about the most recent revision of the v300 from kingston and them using much lower quality memory or something simmilar (my v300 works as advertised but others in the forum gad some issues), if I where you I would look at a different ssd  http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120m500ssd1 is pretty good. Otherwise you have yourself a Very good Quality build right there.

Alright i changed the SSD (i get free shipping on amazon anyway) and i changed to this RAM http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31866c9d8gab