8350vs8320

[Totally-A-Hero]

      I also have a Kingston V300 with the supposed "bad" NAND flash.  My system still goes from off to on and running programs in 8-10 seconds, for a "bad" product, that is fast.  Something to consider with SSDs, is that the rated speeds which they are measured by are for extremely large file transfers, which the average user probably wont be doing often.  For day-to-day tasks, I believe that all SSDs perform the same. 

 

     Check out this study done by Tom's Hardware that compares 3gb/s to 6gb/s SATA ports and SSDs.  If you read the entire review, there are some interesting nuggets of information that basically show that the high to low end SSDs are clustered together in terms of daily performance.  The Kingston V300 is not listed in this study, but there is a good enough sample size of various SSDs that should serve as a rough guide.  If someone has the budget, I will say sure, go for the Samsung, but for the most part, I say go with the least expensive SSD at your desired size.

I bumbed up $5 to the crucial i get free shipping in 2 days so it was worth it.

[Totally-A-Hero]

I was so strapped for cash the first build I made I screwed everything to a piece of MDF and left it there hanging on the wall facing side of my desk for like 2 months until I could afford a case. Good times.

OMG lol.I have a whole sheet of MDF in my garage probally could configure something if i tried but this case will do,might add a side window and have it custom painted.

[Faceman]

I bumbed up $5 to the crucial i get free shipping in 2 days so it was worth it.

Very nice!

[GzeroD]

OMG lol.I have a whole sheet of MDF in my garage probally could configure something if i tried but this case will do,might add a side window and have it custom painted.

Well it worked But it's not on my list of things to recommend to the faint of heart.

 

Anyway your build looks great and should provide years of high end gaming.

 

and now I'm off too bed you guys have a good one.

[i_build_nanosuits]

 

Anyone who's got a little knowledge on PC and CPU's can look at this graph and figure out the future for those 4 core 4 thread CPU's : 100% USAGE = BOTTLENECK !

[GzeroD]

 

Anyone who's got a little knowledge on PC and CPU's can look at this graph and figure out the future for those 4 core 4 thread CPU's : 100% USAGE = BOTTLENECK !

Calling BS on that. I run BF4 on a 3570K and I see nowhere near 90% average useage

[i_build_nanosuits]

Calling BS on that. I run BF4 on a 3570K and I see nowhere near 90% average useage

 

oh, so your's is different! good to know...could you provide proof of that? on a multiplayer servers conquest large with many users on the server please...

 

Link provided from this trusty website, reading through the arcticle they seem to have done a VERY good job on reviewing this title :

 

http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/

[harrynowl]

 

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Anyone who's got a little knowledge on PC and CPU's can look at this graph and figure out the future for those 4 core 4 thread CPU's : 100% USAGE = BOTTLENECK

 

 

oh, so your's is different! good to know...could you provide proof of that? on a multiplayer servers conquest large with many users on the server please...

Or you know... we could look at one graph from an unknown source that demonstrates only 1 game (well, I went and googled the name of the image you posted and found it lead here) and bask in the infinite wisdom and the lack other information provided with the post on the site. Despite every other review showing that yes, the 8350 keeps up with the i5, but isn't twice as fast or anything like you're suggesting and in a lot of other games falls behind.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Or you know... we could look at one graph from an unknown source that demonstrates only 1 game (well, I went and googled the name of the image you posted and found it lead here) and bask in the infinite wisdom and the lack other information provided with the post on the site. Despite every other review showing that yes, the 8350 keeps up with the i5, but isn't twice as fast or anything like you're suggesting and in a lot of other games falls behind.

 

I've never claimed the FX being twice as fast, this would be bullshit, it is keeping up in modern games, falling behind in some that use less than 4 threads, it even gets anihilated in games that use 1 heavy-thread like massive MMO games for example...but it also cost a lot less than even a mid-level core i5 !

 

But, overall the FX chip has more computing capability due to being an 8 thread capable CPU with a much bigger cache and in the long run it will serve it very well in next generation of games for example. that's all i'm saying.

Strong single core performance, while still remaining very important for many single-threaded task, will no longer be that imortant of a factor in future games...4 thread CPU even with a very good single-core performance like a core i5 at some point will no longer be able to keep up in future games.

 

EDIT: BTW, the graph you showed is correct, but it is single player...that's the reason why even a slow quad core like the FX-4150 for example is somewhat keeping up...multiplayer is another story...

 

EDIT 2: The image for CPU usage i've shown was taken from this site here :http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/ in the conclusion at the end.

[Totally-A-Hero]

The only reason i picked the i5-4670k is because the am3+ is dying and i dont feel like having to buy a new motherboard when i upgrade.The i5 should be okish overclocked for about the next year and then i will get a i7.also i wanna keep power consumption and heat low im gonna have a 290 in there and eventually too,i dont want to have to get a 1100 watt power supply.I agree the 8350 will perform better in upcoming titles but the thought of having to buy a new $100 motherboard just to upgrade really turns me off. @Faa @Faceman @GzeroD  @i_build_nanosuits  @harrynowl

[i_build_nanosuits]

i agree with you decision, the core i5 will perform to a very satisfying level for much more than a year, don't worry about it, i've never said ''within a year'' we are talking at least 2 or 3 years to have games that will have such processing request to render a core i5 unsuitable for gaming...not anywhere near a year...and yes the intel socket will allow you to find a used core i7 (even a core i7 6 core hyperthreaded if you ever feel the need) and yes power consumption and heat is much better on intel side, for all those reasons i totaly understand and agree with your choice. have fun mate and see ya on the field ! if you ever play BF4 and want a battlefriend just add me, here's my account:
 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Yansag1982/stats/362847852/pc/

[Totally-A-Hero]

i agree with you decision, the core i5 will perform to a very satisfying level for much more than a year, don't worry about it, i've never said ''within a year'' we are talking at least 2 or 3 years to have games that will have such processing request to render a core i5 unsuitable for gaming...not anywhere near a year...and yes the intel socket will allow you to find a used core i7 (even a core i7 6 core hyperthreaded if you ever feel the need) and yes power consumption and heat is much better on intel side, for all those reasons i totaly understand and agree with your choice. have fun mate and see ya on the field ! if you ever play BF4 and want a battlefriend just add me, here's my account:

 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Yansag1982/stats/362847852/pc/

Will do and i appreciate all of the help everyone here gave me! i look foward to making my build log and maybe even play some games with you guys!

[GzeroD]

oh, so your's is different! good to know...could you provide proof of that? on a multiplayer servers conquest large with many users on the server please...

 

Link provided from this trusty website, reading through the arcticle they seem to have done a VERY good job on reviewing this title :

 

http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-benchmark-mp-cpu-gpu-w7-vs-w8-1/

 

I don't know what kind of tests you would like me to do, I joined a full 64 player server earlier and was getting low to high 70's for % of CPU utilization at 5760x1080 with everything maxed out. But in the article you linked it looks like they where running stock and I am running at 4.6 at the moment so that is probably the cause for the difference in utilization that I see and the article claims. 

i agree with you decision, the core i5 will perform to a very satisfying level for much more than a year, don't worry about it, i've never said ''within a year'' we are talking at least 2 or 3 years to have games that will have such processing request to render a core i5 unsuitable for gaming...not anywhere near a year...and yes the intel socket will allow you to find a used core i7 (even a core i7 6 core hyperthreaded if you ever feel the need) 

While I don't think that the unlocked Intel quad cores will be struggling in games on high settings for at least 3 years (or lower settings for years beyond that). That being said I doubt any different could be said about the 8350 They are both very solid chips and will likely work for years; I just think that the I5 comes with more benefits now.

 

also my account is linked if you want to add me. Although I am pretty terrible so don't expect a challenge

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/GzeroD/stats/798251182/pc/

[i_build_nanosuits]

I don't know what kind of tests you would like me to do, I joined a full 64 player server earlier and was getting low to high 70's for % of CPU utilization at 5760x1080 with everything maxed out. But in the article you linked it looks like they where running stock and I am running at 4.6 at the moment so that is probably the cause for the difference in utilization that I see and the article claims. 

While I don't think that the unlocked Intel quad cores will be struggling in games on high settings for at least 3 years (or lower settings for years beyond that). That being said I doubt any different could be said about the 8350 They are both very solid chips and will likely work for years; I just think that the I5 comes with more benefits now.

 

also my account is linked if you want to add me. Although I am pretty terrible so don't expect a challenge

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/GzeroD/stats/798251182/pc/

 

Nice post, i agree with you, probably your overclock is keeping the CPU load lower...and i also agree that both chips are probably in fact way overkill for any games in the upcoming years...the new consoles only has about half the CPU computing power of the intel i5 and fx 8 core..

[Totally-A-Hero]

Oh dont worry im sure i will be preety bad on PC at first . You guys play any other games? @i_build_nanosuits  @GzeroD

[GzeroD]

Oh dont worry im sure i will be preety bad on PC at first . You guys play any other games? @i_build_nanosuits Gzerod

I play a few games Right I am playing through Trine 2, Supreme commander Forged Alliance multiplayer , I will be playing The Star Citizen Dog Fighting Module when it goes live soon. Just grabbed Civ V. I also Play a ton of single player games but that is not a ton of help as far as playing together goes. although I am usually willing to pick up a good game if it shows up on sale.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Oh dont worry im sure i will be preety bad on PC at first . You guys play any other games? @i_build_nanosuits  @GzeroD

i play a ton of games, mostly BF4 online though, the other ones are mostly single player, if you want some recommandations on games that i really liked i would say: tomb raider, Max payne 3 was beautiful, crysis 3 of course is worth taking a look, not the best game but for the tech fan in me it's a must, METRO LAST LIGHT was beautiful too!! OMG...from Gzero it shocked me TRINE 2 OMG WHAT A BEAUTIFUL GAME THAT WAS TOO I WEN THROUGH IT TWICE i love the sound and feelings in that game it's just EPIC...if youre into racing theres a new motocross game called MXGP that i really like, it's still knid of old tech the graphics are not that nice but the game is fun..compagny of heroes more strategic type, witcher 2...anyway i love them all it looks like lol !! but with your new PC get tomb raider, max payne 3, BF4 and metro LL mostly would be my suggestions.

[Recon-UK]

I still have a daily driver with a Phenom II BE at 4.2 with crossfired 7770's, it does perfectly fine, great for how old it is, i am sure the FX will treat you well whichever you choose.

[i_build_nanosuits]

he went with a core i5-4670K and a radeon r9 290, he's in for quite a ride ! it's nice i love this forum.

[Totally-A-Hero]

he went with a core i5-4670K and a radeon r9 290, he's in for quite a ride ! it's nice i love this forum.

I love it too! I came here just to reassure the buying of a 7950 and am walking out with a 15 and a 290 for less than $1150! Ya im gonna pick up some of the WaW and play some zombies for my first game its only $7.I also get three free games with the card.Max Payne was is a game i can get with the free game deal so i will pick that up.Now just to convince my dad to let me buy this card before the price goes up...