8350vs8320

[i_build_nanosuits]

@Totally-A-Hero I still play BC2 & Battlefield 3 and theyre still cpu bound with a single 780/r9 290. Strike at karkand in BF3 is a very cpu intensive map where its complety impossible to obtain more than 60 fps there even with 2 780's in a TDM match. BF3 doesnt take advantage of more than 4 cores so a i5 is probably your best bet for this game. Rest of your games, it doesnt matter what cpu you got.

what are you talking about i get over 100FPS with lows in the 80's in karkand 64 players with my FX-8320 and single GTX 780!

no ''maps'' are more CPU intensive than another?! you clearly have no idea what you are talking about !

And yes BF3 use all 8 core of my FX CPU!

[i_build_nanosuits]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 This board matches is the one that comes with the bundle for intel.This board comes with AMD bundle for same price.This is the bundle that the AMD board comes with   http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard I think that the intel bundle for oonly $40 more but im not sure.Right now the 8320 will fit all of my needs and do them well,but in the future this means i have to change boards,but with the intel board i might have to change too.To overclock maybe not sure. @i_build_nanosuits

The motherboard in the AMD combo is much superior to the one included in the intel bundle...the intel bundle is 40$ more for a core i5 or core i7?

[Faa]

what are you talking about i get over 100FPS with lows in the 80's in karkand 64 players with my FX-8320 and single GTX 780!

no ''maps'' are more CPU intensive than another?! you clearly have no idea what you are talking about !

And yes BF3 use all 8 core of my FX CPU!

Thats bullshit and BF3 doesnt take advantage of more than 4 cores which I've done endless testing of. Past 4 cores in BF3 = no performance.

As you see he barely gets close to 90% load meaning his cpu was limiting his 280X and he wouldn't gain anything with a 290 over a 280x in that map.

@Op you're better off with a 4670K or a locked i5 and a H81 board for BF3

[BookerDeWitt]

^ You see the problem with ignorant posts like the one above is that in the post itself there is proof that an 8320 is a fantastically capable processor. Who the hell actually plays at 200 FPS. So it becomes CPU bound at over a 100 FPS who cares !

Plus that's BF3, BF4 is far far more multi-core optimized and the 8350 beats the the i5 4670K in BF4.

This is just one example of MANY MANY games that are "going wide" by adding proper support for multi-core CPUs like the 8320. This is the direct result of the next gen consoles which run 8 core AMD CPUs.
 

 

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.aspx?sku=614982 This board matches is the one that comes with the bundle for intel.This board comes with AMD bundle for same price.This is the bundle that the AMD board comes with   http://www.microcenter.com/product/366425/GA-990FXA-UD3_Socket_AM3_990FX_ATX_AMD_Motherboard I think that the intel bundle for oonly $40 more but im not sure.Right now the 8320 will fit all of my needs and do them well,but in the future this means i have to change boards,but with the intel board i might have to change too.To overclock maybe not sure. @i_build_nanosuits

 

8320 for sure man. It performs just wonderfully in games and is just so snappy in windows.
Intel really doesn't have anything decent near this price range.

[Totally-A-Hero]

The motherboard in the AMD combo is much superior to the one included in the intel bundle...the intel bundle is 40$ more for a core i5 or core i7?

i5-4770k. I really want to get the best deal for next gen titles RIGHT now and hopefully be set for about the next year when the time comes i can upgrade to a intel or amd.

[Totally-A-Hero]

Would i bottle neck my 290 with this? if not when i get crossfire 290's?

[i_build_nanosuits]

i5-4770k. I really want to get the best deal for next gen titles RIGHT now and hopefully be set for about the next year when the time comes i can upgrade to a intel or amd.

 

it can't be i5-4770K, that won't exist...it's a core i7-4770K at that price?! If it is then by all means get that as quick as possible before the deal ends !!!

If you can get a core i7 kit for 40$ more than an FX chip+mobo then of course get that it's even better and well worth the extra 40$ !

[Totally-A-Hero]

i-5 4670k*

 

it can't be i5-4770K, that won't exist...it's a core i7-4770K at that price?! If it is then by all means get that as quick as possible before the deal ends !!!

[i_build_nanosuits]

i-5 4670k*

awww damn that's much less exciting...then no, get the FX 8 core with the high-end 990FX board, it will be better in the long run for gaming.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Would i bottle neck my 290 with this? if not when i get crossfire 290's?

neiter the core i5 or the FX 8 core will bottleneck a 290, except as we established already in single-threaded badly optimised cpu intensive old tech monster online mmo's where BOTH the intel and the FX would bottleneck even an r7 270x...

for modern games (BF4, crysis3, maxpayne, hitman, tomb raider, far cry, batman, mass effect, GTA, the witcher, Fallout etc. etc.) NO SIGNIFICANT BOTTLENECK OBSERVED WITH EITHER CHIPS.

[nokturrduk84]

Would i bottle neck my 290 with this? if not when i get crossfire 290's?

yes FX gonna bottleneck it. But if you go with i5 or i7 it won't. Even i3 will be better than FX.

[i_build_nanosuits]

yes FX gonna bottleneck it. But if you go with i5 or i7 it won't. Even i3 will be better than FX.

nice try fanboy #2 but the OP has been warned already about those false claims.

[Faa]

Would i bottle neck my 290 with this? if not when i get crossfire 290's?

When you bottleneck a single card setup, you will bottleneck a crossfire setup complety and you won't gain advantage of it. Identical fps with single or dual cards. I can prove this, don't doubt this. Don't listen to that i_build_nanosuits he claimed he worked for ubisoft etc and sprays everywhere total misinformation and avoid that russian source that fabricates every benchmark out there like 8350 > 3930K & FX 6300 > i7 & FX 4300 > i5 like here: http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/Far%20Cry%203%20v.%201.0.2/far%20cry%20proz.png

Don't make the mistake and just get the 4670k instead of regretting it afterwards. 

We see that the R9 290x did not perform better on a 8350 than a 280x in Battlefield 4. Another evidence is this post why the 4670k is anytime better than a 8350 for BF4/BF3 with a high-end card like a 780/290: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/150350-amd-fx8350/page-3#entry2020793

Here another test where the 4670k with a single 7970 outperforms a 8350 with 2 or 3 7970's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7189/choosing-a-gaming-cpu-september-2013/8

Done endless testing in BF4 as well, that game doesnt see any performance gains past 6 cores, you'd never see higher loads than 50% on a 12core or 72% on a 8core 

[i_build_nanosuits]

When you ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************72% on a 8core 

Please ignore fanboy #1 once again.

 

You want benchmarks, here benchmarks:

 

[nokturrduk84]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uMYttqvDYaiXbfHlWEuUAdjEW88XLyIeX6SoynMiaOk/edit#gid=0 

[Faa]

Please ignore fanboy #1 once again.

I know what frames you can expect in BF3; I tried 8350's out all the way up to 3930K's and the 3930K didnt do any better than the 2500K and the 8350 was nowhere in the league as the 2500K. You don't need two 780's to have 120 fps in BF3/BF4, you're always cpu bound in battlefield 3 and you need atleast a quadcore and nothing more and thats when single core performance only counts. We proved you earlier that your cpu was bottlenecking your 780 and yet you still claim your cpu doesnt bottleneck your 780 when every Intel pushed the max out of a 780 with nearly twice as much fps. The VR-zone proved the i5 being better, your video & my video proved that a i5 will do better and you're going to deny this again which doesnt make any sense other than making you a troll.

I'm ranked in top 10 with sniping so I have enough experience in that game to judge what fps you can expect and as a tweaker I know what hardware you need because I followed the same misinformation people spreaded like you "BF3 does take advantage of 8 cores blabla" and I haven't seen a single improvement with my 3930K over the 2500K I had. 

Now grow up and be helpful for the OP instead of arguing trying to get your BS right. I've played plenty of times on pc's with 8350's running with multiple gpu's in BF3 and they all ran crap, shitty gpu loads that never exceeded 50/50% making the 2nd card investment a complete waste of money which they didnt even realize. After I told them to upgrade to a i5 and when they all admitted 8350's are crap.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Faa just so you know i don't even read what you post anymore, do tweeter format: 140 caracters or i don't read, no more time to loose with you. you are wasting your time, do something productive instead !

[i_build_nanosuits]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uMYttqvDYaiXbfHlWEuUAdjEW88XLyIeX6SoynMiaOk/edit#gid=0 

superPii ...YES WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT THE SINGLE CORE PERFORMANCE OF THE INTEL CHIP IS BETTER, NEXT !!!!!!!

[nokturrduk84]

superPii ...YES WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT THE SINGLE CORE PERFORMANCE OF THE INTEL CHIP IS BETTER, NEXT !!!!!!!

Don't be troll & face the facts. And facts are: YOUR 8350 IS BOTTLENECKING YOUR GTX 780. AMD 8350 GONNA BOTTLENECK HIGH-END GPUs LIKE 780, 290X & ETC...THESE ARE FACTS!

 

Proof: 

 

8350@4GHz average 70 fps with a 780@1200MHz

 

My 3930k@4.2GHz average 150 fps with a 780@stock

[i_build_nanosuits]

Don't be troll & face the facts. And facts are: YOUR 8350 IS BOTTLENECKING YOUR GTX 780. AMD 8350 GONNA BOTTLENECK HIGH-END GPUs LIKE 780, 290X & ETC...THESE ARE FACTS!

no, these are all lies and i can prove it my GPU gets 99% usage in every games i've tried so far (and NO i don't do old tech single-threaded MMO's, i play MODERN GAMES)

 

READ:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1991365/amd-8350-bottleneck-gtx-780.html

[GzeroD]

8320 If your married to the AMD platform or do a lot of hard number crunching that is core dependent (like video encoding)

Intel if your willing to move over too it.

 

I run crossfire R9 290's on a overclock I5 3570K (usually 4.5 but can go up to 4.7) I can run some benches for you When I get out of work tonight if you ask in this thread or PM me.

I can tell you now that 1 of my 290 works much slower (about 15-20 % in synthetics)  on my brothers fx 6200 overclocked @ 4.6 (just about no games are going to see an improvement from the last 2 cores but the slight improvements made from the last refresh might make a little difference)

 

But to be plainly honest you are going to get playable frame rates with a CPU from either manufacturer. 

[Totally-A-Hero]

Ok my tiny PC noob brain is gonna short out,i am so confused right now can someone break this down into noob terms?I want to know if im gonna bottleneck a 290 with a 8320 overclocked,note i will be overclocking the 290 also.A LONG time from now i will Crossfire the 290 with another 290 or maybe 290x.i will probably bottleneck the 290 x 2 but what about one ?

[i_build_nanosuits]

no bottleneck in MOST modern games with ANY high end GPU's as of today, by the time you would buy the 2nd r9 290 for crossfire, games and drivers will have gone a long way and multi-threading will be much better and DX12 will be out, so no, it should not bottleneck 2x r9 290's in the future either.

[GzeroD]

Ok my tiny PC noob brain is gonna short out,i am so confused right now can someone break this down into noob terms?I want to know if im gonna bottleneck a 290 with a 8320 overclocked,note i will be overclocking the 290 also.A LONG time from now i will Crossfire the 290 with another 290 or maybe 290x.i will probably bottleneck the 290 x 2 but what about one ?

Will it perform slower, yes. Will it be unplayable or not worth it to crossfire them Unlikely. IMHO the small premium to jump to an 1150 intel is worth it. also if you go AMD splurge for a 990 board, the power delivery on the 990's is generally better and good power delivery MANDATORY for getting good overclocks out of an 8 core FX chip.

[nokturrduk84]

Ok my tiny PC noob brain is gonna short out,i am so confused right now can someone break this down into noob terms?I want to know if im gonna bottleneck a 290 with a 8320 overclocked,note i will be overclocking the 290 also.A LONG time from now i will Crossfire the 290 with another 290 or maybe 290x.i will probably bottleneck the 290 x 2 but what about one ?

yes, because R9 290 is as much powerful as 780 & as you see 8350 is already bottlenecking 780 in those videos above.