Jump to content

Critique my $2000 build

iovey

Original parts list if interested ig:

Spoiler

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrQgk9
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsVR2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML120L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.32 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($800.74 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1785.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 10:00 EDT-0400


Updated parts list from feedback: 
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDRhVw

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Phanteks Revolt Pro 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1898.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 11:55 EDT-0400


 

Budget (including currency): 1500-2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, light video work, 1440p

Reasoning

Saving up to finally do a full system refresh, coming from a 2060 Super/8600k system. Memory, SSD, and Power Supply are all sorta placeholders of generally what im looking for, so go ahead and give recommendations for those if you have them. 

Want to go AM5/DDR5 for the upgrade path

Looking at the 7700 non-X for the core count (I pretty regularly max out my 6c/6t 8600k) and the lower TDP (I live in FL its too damn hot). Also considering the 7600x since its $70~ cheaper and seems relatively performance equal.

Looking at the 4070ti for 1440p performance + TDP. Bouncing between it and the 7900xt (4070ti for better Raytracing and DLSS stuff, 7900xt for more VRAM and generally better rasterization performance.) Going to buy late in hopes that the sales issues of the 4070 will push Nvidia to institute some price drops.

CPU Cooler will be the last thing I buy, stock AMD cooler should hold up for thermals so I'm gonna see how noise performance is before I buy an aftermarket cooler. If I do I'm looking at 120mm AIO's.

Core V21 because I've always liked smaller systems and want to go Micro ATX this time around. Looking at other cases as well of course.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

Edited by iovey
Updated parts list
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

upgrade psu to 850W

 

also if u have the budget, get the coolermaster ml360 illusion, looks beautiful, i have one myself and very happy with it, but thats just biased, everything looks good except for ur psu, put that to a 850W

Dont forget to mark as solution if your question is answered

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

 

Join team Red, my apprentice

 

STOP SIDING WITH NVIDIA

 

Setup:
Ryzen 7 5800X3DSapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX 24GB / ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming / Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler / EVGA SuperNova 850 G2 / Lian Li Dynamic Evo White Case / 2x16 GB Kingston FURY RAM / 2x 1TB Lexar 710 / iiYama 1440p 165HZ Montitor, iiYama 1080p 75Hz Monitor / Shure MV7 w/ Focusrite Scarlett Solo / GK61 Keyboard / Cooler Master MM712 (daily driver) Logitech G502-X (MMO mouse) / Soundcore Life Q20 w/ Arctis 3 w/ WF-1000XM3

 

CPU OC: -30 all cores @AutoGhz

GPU OC: 3Ghz Core 2750Mhz Memory w/ 25%W increase (460W)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

my main points would be:

You don't need a water cooler for a Ryzen 7 7700 and you could save money here. As LTT have just showed, in yesterdays video, the stock cooler is good enough for that chip if all your doing is gaming and your not OCing. If you do want better than stock cooling, get a cheap air cooler.

 

The PSU your looking at is under powered (you want 850W really, for reliability, efficentcy and upgradability) and overpriced.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websiteshttps://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

He/Him

 

I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i agree with blqckqut, at least a 750-800w for overhead. any gpu upgrade will require a larger psu so you might as well get it now. also 120 AIO's are usually not very effective, either use the default cooler or get a good air cooler (noctua or bequiet are both good options) unless you're willing to spring for at least a 240

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, iovey said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrQgk9
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsVR2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML120L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.32 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($800.74 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1785.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 10:00 EDT-0400
 

Budget (including currency): 1500-2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, light video work, 1440p

Reasoning

Saving up to finally do a full system refresh, coming from a 2060 Super/8600k system. Memory, SSD, and Power Supply are all sorta placeholders of generally what im looking for, so go ahead and give recommendations for those if you have them. 

Want to go AM5/DDR5 for the upgrade path

Looking at the 7700 non-X for the core count (I pretty regularly max out my 6c/6t 8600k) and the lower TDP (I live in FL its too damn hot). Also considering the 7600x since its $70~ cheaper and seems relatively performance equal.

Looking at the 4070ti for 1440p performance + TDP. Bouncing between it and the 7900xt (4070ti for better Raytracing and DLSS stuff, 7900xt for more VRAM and generally better rasterization performance.) Going to buy late in hopes that the sales issues of the 4070 will push Nvidia to institute some price drops.

CPU Cooler will be the last thing I buy, stock AMD cooler should hold up for thermals so I'm gonna see how noise performance is before I buy an aftermarket cooler. If I do I'm looking at 120mm AIO's.

Core V21 because I've always liked smaller systems and want to go Micro ATX this time around. Looking at other cases as well of course.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

There is no point in getting a 7700 when the 7700X is so much better. Dont get a liquid cooler as linus just made a video of it.

And get a much more powerful PSU. Heres a list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

I hit 700W on an i5 with a NHD15

Also I'm 14 so please just confirm anything I say with someone more experienced

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2008 called, they want their case back. Something better

No point in a 12mm AIO. Just get a tower cooler..

PSU won't be enough.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, iovey said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrQgk9
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsVR2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML120L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.32 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($800.74 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1785.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 10:00 EDT-0400
 

Budget (including currency): 1500-2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, light video work, 1440p

Reasoning

Saving up to finally do a full system refresh, coming from a 2060 Super/8600k system. Memory, SSD, and Power Supply are all sorta placeholders of generally what im looking for, so go ahead and give recommendations for those if you have them. 

Want to go AM5/DDR5 for the upgrade path

Looking at the 7700 non-X for the core count (I pretty regularly max out my 6c/6t 8600k) and the lower TDP (I live in FL its too damn hot). Also considering the 7600x since its $70~ cheaper and seems relatively performance equal.

Looking at the 4070ti for 1440p performance + TDP. Bouncing between it and the 7900xt (4070ti for better Raytracing and DLSS stuff, 7900xt for more VRAM and generally better rasterization performance.) Going to buy late in hopes that the sales issues of the 4070 will push Nvidia to institute some price drops.

CPU Cooler will be the last thing I buy, stock AMD cooler should hold up for thermals so I'm gonna see how noise performance is before I buy an aftermarket cooler. If I do I'm looking at 120mm AIO's.

Core V21 because I've always liked smaller systems and want to go Micro ATX this time around. Looking at other cases as well of course.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

I'd also genuinely recommend either the 7600 or 7800x3D. 

 

7900 XT is a minimum 750W recommended PSU, I'd at least upgrade that. You can chop some of the budget if any with a cheaper cooler, since LTT just did a video with some great data showing why.

Ryzen 7950x3D PBO +200MHz / -15mV curve CPPC in 'prefer cache'

RTX 4090 @133%/+230/+1000

Builder/Enthusiast/Overclocker since 2012  //  Professional since 2017

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, Bob__ said:

There is no point in getting a 7700 when the 7700X is so much better. Dont get a liquid cooler as linus just made a video of it.

And get a much more powerful PSU. Heres a list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

i got a liquid cooler simply because of rgb and looks

Dont forget to mark as solution if your question is answered

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

 

Join team Red, my apprentice

 

STOP SIDING WITH NVIDIA

 

Setup:
Ryzen 7 5800X3DSapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX 24GB / ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming / Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler / EVGA SuperNova 850 G2 / Lian Li Dynamic Evo White Case / 2x16 GB Kingston FURY RAM / 2x 1TB Lexar 710 / iiYama 1440p 165HZ Montitor, iiYama 1080p 75Hz Monitor / Shure MV7 w/ Focusrite Scarlett Solo / GK61 Keyboard / Cooler Master MM712 (daily driver) Logitech G502-X (MMO mouse) / Soundcore Life Q20 w/ Arctis 3 w/ WF-1000XM3

 

CPU OC: -30 all cores @AutoGhz

GPU OC: 3Ghz Core 2750Mhz Memory w/ 25%W increase (460W)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Agall said:

I'd also genuinely recommend either the 7600 or 7800x3D. 

 

7900 XT is a minimum 750W recommended PSU, I'd at least upgrade that. You can chop some of the budget if any with a cheaper cooler, since LTT just did a video with some great data showing why.

same here, i recomend 7800x3d, only reason i didnt say anything is because here its 450 bucks and he need more money for a 850 watt so i was scared it wouldnt fit into te budget

Dont forget to mark as solution if your question is answered

Note: My advice is amateur help/beginner troubleshooting, someone else can probably troubleshoot way better than me.

- I do have some experience, and I can use google pretty well. - Feel free to quote me I may respond soon.

 

Join team Red, my apprentice

 

STOP SIDING WITH NVIDIA

 

Setup:
Ryzen 7 5800X3DSapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX 24GB / ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming / Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler / EVGA SuperNova 850 G2 / Lian Li Dynamic Evo White Case / 2x16 GB Kingston FURY RAM / 2x 1TB Lexar 710 / iiYama 1440p 165HZ Montitor, iiYama 1080p 75Hz Monitor / Shure MV7 w/ Focusrite Scarlett Solo / GK61 Keyboard / Cooler Master MM712 (daily driver) Logitech G502-X (MMO mouse) / Soundcore Life Q20 w/ Arctis 3 w/ WF-1000XM3

 

CPU OC: -30 all cores @AutoGhz

GPU OC: 3Ghz Core 2750Mhz Memory w/ 25%W increase (460W)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Are you committed to that case? I know looks are subjective. but build experience is also somewhat important. spending a biit more on a case if you dont mind going to a  more traditional form factor will definitely help out on the aesthetics end if that's important to you. There are definitely better cases for showing off stuff like RGB and easier to build in especially if your trying to hide cables and such.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, venomtail said:

2008 called, they want their case back. Something better

Given the difference in price, I'd take the Thermaltake Core V21 over your suggestion any day.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websiteshttps://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

He/Him

 

I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

56 minutes ago, iovey said:

Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 

Say NO to anything Thermaltake.  Move up to at least 850w.  Corsair, Seasonic, or beQuiet! are the brands to stick with.  Corsair AX/HX series are the ones to get.  I'd personally suggest nothing less than 1000w if you can afford it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Another point is I'd rather have Intel ANYTHING then AMD right now.  Unless you really want to be an alpha tester for AMD.  Not worth a thousand dollars in CPU and motherboard potentially melting.  Besides the issues with memory timing and getting EXPO to work at all.  BLAH!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFrhVw

7900 + 3090 + 32gb 6000c32

 

Just buy a used 3090, lots more vram than a 4070 or 4080, just make sure you can return incase its faulty otheriwse you are completely safe buying used

43 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

this is what I came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZjKW4

+1 on either of this build, but techy id definitely swap for 7800X3D because only gaming is mentioned. But for any productivity id go for 7900 and cross shop with 13700.

 

Here's my entrant to the foray. Also, forget price drop and nvidia, AIBs have no incentives because theyre already gutted to the gills in margin and the stores have no incentives because the demand still meets the crossover point.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($46.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($949.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Power Supply: Phanteks Revolt Pro 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2037.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 11:16 EDT-0400

Press quote to get a response from someone! | Check people's edited posts! | Be specific! | Trans Rights

I am human. I'm scared of the dark, and I get toothaches. My name is Frill. Don't pretend not to see me. I was born from the two of you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Bob__ said:

There is no point in getting a 7700 when the 7700X is so much better. Dont get a liquid cooler as linus just made a video of it.

And get a much more powerful PSU. Heres a list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

 

Liquid cooler is more of a placeholder than anything. From all the testing I've seen the difference between the 7700 and 7700x is almost entirely negligible, especially in the things I'd be using it for. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFrhVw

7900 + 3090 + 32gb 6000c32

 

Just buy a used 3090, lots more vram than a 4070 or 4080, just make sure you can return incase its faulty otheriwse you are completely safe buying used

Not really interested in going used.

 

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

2008 called, they want their case back. Something better

No point in a 12mm AIO. Just get a tower cooler..

PSU won't be enough.

I really hate the front grill on the Torrent. I'm definitely not 100% committed to the V21 but I haven't seen too many small form factor cases that I like a lot more without stepping down to ITX.

 

1 hour ago, will0hlep said:

my main points would be:

You don't need a water cooler for a Ryzen 7 7700 and you could save money here. As LTT have just showed, in yesterdays video, the stock cooler is good enough for that chip if all your doing is gaming and your not OCing. If you do want better than stock cooling, get a cheap air cooler.

 

The PSU your looking at is under powered (you want 850W really, for reliability, efficentcy and upgradability) and overpriced.

Really? I figured 200w over estimated would be fine enough, but no big deal to go up to something more powerful I guess.

 

1 hour ago, rice guru said:

Are you committed to that case? I know looks are subjective. but build experience is also somewhat important. spending a biit more on a case if you dont mind going to a  more traditional form factor will definitely help out on the aesthetics end if that's important to you. There are definitely better cases for showing off stuff like RGB and easier to build in especially if your trying to hide cables and such.

I've built in way worse, trust me. That being said I'm not particularly taken by any cases atm honestly. 

 

29 minutes ago, zim2323 said:

Another point is I'd rather have Intel ANYTHING then AMD right now.  Unless you really want to be an alpha tester for AMD.  Not worth a thousand dollars in CPU and motherboard potentially melting.  Besides the issues with memory timing and getting EXPO to work at all.  BLAH!

One of the only things I'm absolutely 1000% sure of right now is that I'm going AMD. 

 

1 hour ago, Blqckqut said:

same here, i recomend 7800x3d, only reason i didnt say anything is because here its 450 bucks and he need more money for a 850 watt so i was scared it wouldnt fit into te budget

7800x3d fits, I've got a ton of headroom left in the build I've posted and I'm even willing to go a little over $2000 if its actually worth it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, iovey said:

One of the only things I'm absolutely 1000% sure of right now is that I'm going AMD. 

Just curious, are you worried about the current motherboard issues for this series?  My Brother and I both had 7950X's, boards, and memory purchased until we started having issues and then seeing reports.  We both returned it all and went Intel based.  My Brothers friend who stuck with AMD has had multiple issues and scares so far.  I think this platform has a lot of future potential.  I use my PC for work also so I can't afford to be "down" if there's a lengthy issue.  Maybe that's not you.

 

Thoughts?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, zim2323 said:

Just curious, are you worried about the current motherboard issues for this series?  My Brother and I both had 7950X's, boards, and memory purchased until we started having issues and then seeing reports.  We both returned it all and went Intel based.  My Brothers friend who stuck with AMD has had multiple issues and scares so far.  I think this platform has a lot of future potential.  I use my PC for work also so I can't afford to be "down" if there's a lengthy issue.  Maybe that's not you.

 

Thoughts?

It looks as though its being corrected with BIOS updates and honestly as long as any issues are covered by warranty I'm willing to accept a little risk. 

I'm also probably 2~ months out at least from building the PC as it stands, so I've got time to see if the issue persists even with the fixes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, iovey said:

It looks as though its being corrected with BIOS updates and honestly as long as any issues are covered by warranty I'm willing to accept a little risk. 

I'm also probably 2~ months out at least from building the PC as it stands, so I've got time to see if the issue persists even with the fixes.

Gotcha!  Makes sense.  I wanted to try but just couldn't risk it.  Good luck and have fun with your build!  Always a fun experience.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, zim2323 said:

Gotcha!  Makes sense.  I wanted to try but just couldn't risk it.  Good luck and have fun with your build!  Always a fun experience.

I'm excited! Haven't done a completely new PC build since I built my rig originally back in 2013 but it's finally time to retire the ol girl

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, iovey said:

Original parts list if interested ig:

  Reveal hidden contents

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rrQgk9
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GsVR2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML120L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.32 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  ($102.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($800.74 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($112.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1785.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 10:00 EDT-0400


Updated parts list from feedback: 
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDRhVw

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($799.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Phanteks Revolt Pro 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1898.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-05 11:55 EDT-0400


 

Budget (including currency): 1500-2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming, light video work, 1440p

Reasoning

Saving up to finally do a full system refresh, coming from a 2060 Super/8600k system. Memory, SSD, and Power Supply are all sorta placeholders of generally what im looking for, so go ahead and give recommendations for those if you have them. 

Want to go AM5/DDR5 for the upgrade path

Looking at the 7700 non-X for the core count (I pretty regularly max out my 6c/6t 8600k) and the lower TDP (I live in FL its too damn hot). Also considering the 7600x since its $70~ cheaper and seems relatively performance equal.

Looking at the 4070ti for 1440p performance + TDP. Bouncing between it and the 7900xt (4070ti for better Raytracing and DLSS stuff, 7900xt for more VRAM and generally better rasterization performance.) Going to buy late in hopes that the sales issues of the 4070 will push Nvidia to institute some price drops.

CPU Cooler will be the last thing I buy, stock AMD cooler should hold up for thermals so I'm gonna see how noise performance is before I buy an aftermarket cooler. If I do I'm looking at 120mm AIO's.

Core V21 because I've always liked smaller systems and want to go Micro ATX this time around. Looking at other cases as well of course.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

I would recommend using remainder funds to purchase a tower fan, or even one with A/C, for the room the computer is going to be in. The ones with A/C built in cost at least $200-300.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pVjKW4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($599.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Asus Prime AP201 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G6 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($16.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($16.95 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Noctua P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.75 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($15.95 @ Amazon) 
$1853.74

Am I still to create the perfect system?! ~ Clu

Keep your expectations low, boy, and you will never be disappointed. ~ Kratos

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, iovey said:

I really hate the front grill on the Torrent. I'm definitely not 100% committed to the V21 but I haven't seen too many small form factor cases that I like a lot more without stepping down to ITX.

Made worse by the fact that there's not that many miniITX cases left. Here's my pick of the other ones still on my radar for my next miniITX case.

Ridge mini

Meshlicious

And if you really want to go for something unique the Xproto

Desktop: Ryzen 7 5800X3D - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3600MHz 32GB Kingston Fury - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 1TB P3 - 4TB HDD - RX6800 - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta - Silent Wings Pro 4's enjoyer

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - PC38X - Mackie CR5X's

Current build on PCPartPicker

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, iovey said:

Really? I figured 200w over estimated would be fine enough, but no big deal to go up to something more powerful I guess.

Well, there is a mix of things: 1) there are often big spikes in draw from the PSU that pcpartpicker dosn't account (although your safety margin is admitadly good), and 2) PSUs last a long time and your going to want an 850W so you can move this PSU to your next PC in 5 years.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need.

 

Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm.

 

useful websiteshttps://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

He/Him

 

I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes.

 

Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii

 

Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C

 

Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P

 

TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C

 

Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors}

 

Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×