Posted March 25, 2023 WARNING VBIOS FLASHING CAN BRICK YOUR GPU IF YOU FLASH THE WRONG BIOS A SECOND GPU AS A BACKUP WILL BE NEEDED IN THE EVENT THIS HAPPENS essentially this post is to help those looking to unlock the full potential of there cards that have been wrongfully neutered by fake power limits when clearly these cards have a VRM design that can handles peeks of 400watts AND MORE so far the cards that i have found on forums that can be crossflashed with higher powerlimits FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THIS IN THE COMMENTS WITH YOUR SOURCE PLEASE zotac 3070 twin edge oc(240watts) flashed to a asus bios (270watts) "im still looking for people who have successfully flashed the FTW3 bios to this card but no luck even though it has a 10phase of 50amp parts capable of handling 474watts" https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comments/lsb0sj/3070_twin_edge_oc_flashed_to_270w/ evga 3070 xc3 black(270watts) flashed with FTW3(300watts) https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/kxy5yp/rtx_3070_xc3_with_ftw3_bios/ gigabyte 3070 gaming oc (non pro)(270watts) flashed with strix(350watts) card is limited by the power connectors since some models use a 8+6 pin for power (310watts GPUz reported power)cannot find original reddit that shows gpuz https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/jpkwh1/gigabyte_gaming_oc_3070_bios_flashed_to_aorus/ https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/w2qonz/how_to_get_even_more_performance_out_of_a_gpu_for/?sort=old msi 3070 ventus x3(220watts) flashed to auros master(300watts) https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/js4ngj/rtx_3070_flashing_bios_to_rtx_3070_ventus_3x_oc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 On the topic of overclocking, I found myself to be hitting voltage limits rather than power in most situations, are you able to control voltage past lets say 1.068v? mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Levent said: On the topic of overclocking, I found myself to be hitting voltage limits rather than power in most situations, are you able to control voltage past lets say 1.068v? Well, depends. I am limited by power on my 3060ti as Gigabyte completely locked the power slider so it's stuck at 100% so with my OC I found that I can't let fan run above 86% or the fan will use so much power that my card will start hitting power limits in some parts of benchmarks (and I run lower than stock voltage). Not really relevant when I play games but it does affect my benchmarking scores quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 Author 11 minutes ago, Levent said: On the topic of overclocking, I found myself to be hitting voltage limits rather than power in most situations, are you able to control voltage past lets say 1.068v? are u using msi afterburner 7 minutes ago, WereCat said: Well, depends. I am limited by power on my 3060ti as Gigabyte completely locked the power slider so it's stuck at 100% so with my OC I found that I can't let fan run above 86% or the fan will use so much power that my card will start hitting power limits in some parts of benchmarks (and I run lower than stock voltage). Not really relevant when I play games but it does affect my benchmarking scores quite a lot. have u checked what ur bios says the power limit is in watts on techpowerup's vbios database if u cant find it there then u may have to look up unverified bios' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, clutchmaster said: are u using msi afterburner have u checked what ur bios says the power limit is in watts on techpowerup's vbios database if u cant find it there then u may have to look up unverified bios' yeah, I am currently flashing a 350w bios (or attempting to if I can get rid of "a system reboot might be required" error in nvflash. mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 Author 1 minute ago, Levent said: yeah, I am currently flashing a 350w bios (or attempting to if I can get rid of "a system reboot might be required" error in nvflash. rebooting after a flash is needed so the gpu actually runs the bios though i think u know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 Author 3 minutes ago, Levent said: yeah, I am currently flashing a 350w bios (or attempting to if I can get rid of "a system reboot might be required" error in nvflash. since ur using msi afterburner u need to make sure these are enabled then to force the card to use whatever voltage u want to whatever the voltage limit of the bios u must use the graph curve and to confirm the card is actually being commanded to run at that voltage use hwmonitor or hwinfo if msi after burner isnt showing the voltage like with my evga rtx 2060 KO other software is showing my voltage but msi afterburner isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, clutchmaster said: since ur using msi afterburner u need to make sure these are enabled then to force the card to use whatever voltage u want to whatever the voltage limit of the bios u must use the graph curve and to confirm the card is actually being commanded to run at that voltage use hwmonitor or hwinfo if msi after burner isnt showing the voltage like with my evga rtx 2060 KO other software is showing my voltage but msi afterburner isnt Yeah those are enabled. Also can you please direct me to a working nvflash? The ones I found cant override GPU mismatch errors? mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, clutchmaster said: have u checked what ur bios says the power limit is in watts on techpowerup's vbios database if u cant find it there then u may have to look up unverified bios' According to https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rtx-3060-ti-eagle.b8448 it's 200W but I believe it's actually lower on my card and around 180W. I have the V. 2 revision of this model. Not at my PC right now so can't check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 Author 30 minutes ago, Levent said: Yeah those are enabled. Also can you please direct me to a working nvflash? The ones I found cant override GPU mismatch errors? did u do the protect off command 29 minutes ago, WereCat said: According to https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-rtx-3060-ti-eagle.b8448 it's 200W but I believe it's actually lower on my card and around 180W. I have the V. 2 revision of this model. Not at my PC right now so can't check. thats not the VBIOS database from what i learned is that listing of the card tends be unreliable when finding true power limits of the card this is the correct page and i think is what will appear when u look at the vbios u upload to the databse with GPUz there are atleast 2 versions of the card 1 has a 220watt bios and the other is 200watts https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=&manufacturer=Gigabyte&model=RTX+3060+Ti&version=&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, clutchmaster said: did u do the protect off command thats not the VBIOS database from what i learned is that listing of the card tends be unreliable when finding true power limits of the card this is the correct page and i think is what will appear when u look at the vbios u upload to the databse with GPUz there are atleast 2 versions of the card 1 has a 220watt bios and the other is 200watts https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=&manufacturer=Gigabyte&model=RTX+3060+Ti&version=&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since= yep nothing worked. Seems like Nvidia put some LHR controls to their vbioses as well. mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 28 minutes ago, Levent said: yep nothing worked. Seems like Nvidia put some LHR controls to their vbioses as well. what bios are u trying to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 30 minutes ago, Levent said: yep nothing worked. Seems like Nvidia put some LHR controls to their vbioses as well. also what is ur bios file have u uploaded it to the database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, clutchmaster said: what bios are u trying to use I am trying to flash a TUF 3070 vbios to a Noctua 3070 (which is LHR only BUT shares the identical PCB as TUF). mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 11 minutes ago, Levent said: I am trying to flash a TUF 3070 vbios to a Noctua 3070 (which is LHR only BUT shares the identical PCB as TUF). u cannot crossflash LHR and non-LHR cards unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 17 minutes ago, Levent said: I am trying to flash a TUF 3070 vbios to a Noctua 3070 (which is LHR only BUT shares the identical PCB as TUF). the TUF and the Noctua bios' have the same power limit of 270watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 20 minutes ago, Levent said: I am trying to flash a TUF 3070 vbios to a Noctua 3070 (which is LHR only BUT shares the identical PCB as TUF). if we're talking about 3070 non-TI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 6 hours ago, clutchmaster said: gigabyte 3070 gaming oc (non pro)(270watts) flashed with strix(350watts) card is limited by the power connectors since some models use a 8+6 pin for power (310watt ok, im just curious, what would that actually do ...? i don't really know why more power would automatically mean higher frequencies? my gpu hits the *same* frequencies (2010-2020mhz) regardless of how much wattage it uses for example. and yes can confirm 8+6 pin on my 3070 vision oc which is basically the same card just prettier = ) The direction tells you... the direction. -Scott Manley, 2021 Softwares used: Corsair Link (Anime Edition) MSI Afterburner OpenRGB Lively Wallpaper OBS Studio Shutter Encoder Avidemux FSResizer Audacity VLC WMP GIMP HWiNFO64 Paint 3D Paint GitHub Desktop Superposition Prime95 Aida64 GPUZ CPUZ Generic Logviewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted March 26, 2023 Author 3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said: ok, im just curious, what would that actually do ...? i don't really know why more power would automatically mean higher frequencies? my gpu hits the *same* frequencies (2010-2020mhz) regardless of how much wattage it uses for example. and yes can confirm 8+6 pin on my 3070 vision oc which is basically the same card just prettier = ) when the gpu hits the power limit the card will momentary drop voltage and clock speed u can witness this with cards with realy low power limits with the midium PL cards u may not see this happening much because it happens so fast this is known as clock stretching i have experienced micro stutters during intense scenes in gun fights and some cases a hard stutter with my gtx 1080 armour which came with a 220watt bios after i flashed a 290watt bios to it, it helped the stuttering.... the card that i got would hit power limit on stock clocks after the flash it maintaines a stable clock speed and only dropped speed bins as it got hotter if i die in a game it better be me and not my system i rather suck then something holding me back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 11 Has anyone flashed the 300w or 350w vbios from ASUS on the zotac cards yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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