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1 minute ago, Megageek said:

Do you think celeron chips should be retired forever?

They have their place. So no.

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1 minute ago, Megageek said:

Just saw a new celeron chips promo.

If you did they still have a place so no, shoudn't be retired just yet.
Retirement - That's for when sales drop to the point of market extinction or a dumbassed boardroom decision but until then, they'll be around.

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Celeron is a marketing gimmick to give consumers less chip real estate for the same price as premium intel chips. People have been getting ripped off since its inception.

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4 minutes ago, Megageek said:

Celeron is a marketing gimmick to give consumers less chip real estate for the same price as premium intel chips. People have been getting ripped off since its inception.

The early Celeron CPUs were created to give a cheaper alternative to the Pentiums of the era, usually through the absence of on CPU cache. At the time this made little to no difference so was a great saving for most but the most demanding.

 

Today it is little more than a marketing name. Even if the name goes away, the low end position they fill will exist in some form or other. They exist because low cost chips are needed in some area. You get less than premium CPUs because it costs far less than high end CPUs.

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Celeron is a brand name. 

 

Are you just suggesting that Intel shouldn't offer any chip for the low end of the market at all? Or they just shouldn't call them "Celeron" as if that makes a difference?

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Celeron is a marketing gimmick to give consumers less chip real estate for the same price as premium intel chips. People have been getting ripped off since its inception.

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Sometimes a turtle should be called a turtle. Intel should lose the celeron and replace with photonic equivalent.

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1 minute ago, Megageek said:

Celeron is a marketing gimmick to give consumers less chip real estate for the same price as premium intel chips. 

 

Copy and pasting this response does nothing to allay doubts you actually understand what you're talking about.

 

Can you point to an example of a Celeron which is "the same price as premium Intel chips"? 

 

For reference, the only desktop Celeron chip from the current Intel platform has an MSRP of ~$50. 

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7 minutes ago, Megageek said:

Sometimes a turtle should be called a turtle. Intel should lose the celeron and replace with photonic equivalent.

I'm pretty sure photonic processors aren't ready for desktop use and would certainly cost a bit more than a Pentium.

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Celeron is here to stay. They will always need a base model CPU, it's the Chevy Spark of Intel's lineup and has been for many years. People not liking the name won't change a multi-billion dollar company's marketing designs. Besides they'd just replace it with something else people would complain about.

 

"Intel Baby Carrot? That's a stupid rip-off chip, consumers are losing out man!"

 

Also... 

 

I've had a strange craving for Dill Pickle chips. I'll have to go pick some up after work tomorrow.

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The celeron chips in designed to make intel money by dupeing consumers. There are some who dont like pickles.

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3 minutes ago, Megageek said:

The celeron chips in designed to make intel money by dupeing consumers. 

 

"Dupeing" them in what way?

 

 

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I would like to point to the fact that the cost to produce a celeron vs I9 chips is tens of thousands of dollars per one wafer...

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I would like to point to the fact that the cost to produce a celeron vs I9 chips is tens of thousands of dollars per one wafer...

 

This isn't a coherent sentence. It seems like you're trying to make some sort of argument about a difference in the cost of production between a Celeron and a high-end chip, but you didn't actually state what you think that difference is.

 

Celerons are a low-capability chip with a low price that reflects that. In what way is selling them "dishonest" or "dupeing" anyone? 

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Its understandable that intel needs to catch up to AMD but I have had two celerons in two different computers and they seem to be getting worse in the on board memory dept compared to regular chips and performance is bad I mean really really bad.

 

Do you like celeron and can you point out anything good about huh.

 

If you haven't used one then you shouldn't comment.

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Celeron in a low wattage chip, its there for a reason, I have a feeling op isn't aware of the history and design reason behind the Celeron brand, nothing duping customers.

 

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Do you like celeron and can you point out anything good about huh.

Low wattage processing, many device dont need the high wattage processor.

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8 minutes ago, Megageek said:

Its understandable that intel needs to catch up to AMD

Catch up to them in what regard? The performance of Intel's CPU's is competitive with or better than AMD's offerings at most price points right now. 

 

8 minutes ago, Megageek said:

but I have had two celerons in two different computers and they seem to be getting worse in the on board memory dept

What do you mean by "the on board memory dept"? Cache?

 

8 minutes ago, Megageek said:

and performance is bad I mean really really bad.

You bought an entry level chip meant for basic day to day computing. If you were expecting high performance that was your mistake. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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For argument sake this is a disscussion there is not argument intel should do the right thing as right things go.

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7 minutes ago, Megageek said:

Do you like celeron and can you point out anything good about huh.

 

Are you going to answer any of the questions people have asked about what you mean by your weird statements, or back up any of the claims you've made? Or is this just a rant thread because you're upset the cheap CPU you bought performs like a cheap CPU? 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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6 minutes ago, Megageek said:

For argument sake this is a disscussion there is not argument intel should do the right thing as right things go.

Your making a pretty weak argument here, do you have an actual positon to come from or you going to keep replying with an opinion. Opinions are fine but they have no merit if the opinion cant be back up with something.

Your topic so bring something to the table here.

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