New rx 6900 xt is using less than 100w in game, HELP?

[O_Bsnacks]

So, I literally just got he reference rx 6900 xt today and when playing games such as battlefield v and the new warzone and overwatch 2, and the frames are in the 120s no matter high or low settings.

I see that the gpu is using less than 100w no matter what I do. I reintalled the drivers using DDU multiple time and it still happens. I also see that my cpu is max at 100%.Please Help. 

 

Pc Specs:

Ryzen 5 5600x 

Asus b550 -f gaming motherboard 

Asus thor 850+ platinum psu

2x8 3600mhz ddr4 ram 

 

[Dukesilver27-]

Monitor refresh rate? resolution? v-sync on? 

[O_Bsnacks]

7 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Monitor refresh rate? resolution? v-sync on? 

monitor refresh rate= 144hz, resolution 1980 x 1080p, v-sync off. The thing is, it only when gaming when I run furmark it goes to 255w at the 1980x1080p benchmark

[Dukesilver27-]

Yea your CPU can't keep up with the GPU. Furmark only uses GPU, which is why power usage go up. To confirm this, try turning on Virtual Super Resolution in AMD Adrenaline and play the games in 4K, see if the power usage and utilization go up, if they are, then you are CPU bottlenecked.

33 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

I also see that my cpu is max at 100%.Please Help. 

This is the answer.

[O_Bsnacks]

3 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Yea your CPU can't keep up with the GPU. Furmark only uses GPU, which is why power usage go up. To confirm this, try turning on Virtual Super Resolution in AMD Adrenaline and play the games in 4K, see if the power usage and utilization go up, if they are, then you are CPU bottlenecked.

This is the answer.

But looking on YouTube with people who have the same specs they don’t seem to have this problem.

[O_Bsnacks]

On 11/17/2022 at 5:04 PM, Dukesilver27- said:

Yea your CPU can't keep up with the GPU. Furmark only uses GPU, which is why power usage go up. To confirm this, try turning on Virtual Super Resolution in AMD Adrenaline and play the games in 4K, see if the power usage and utilization go up, if they are, then you are CPU bottlenecked.

This is the answer.

So I turned VSR on and no difference was made when gaming at 1440p or 1080p 4k 

[Dukesilver27-]

FPS still at 100+ but GPU usage not going up? That's mathematically impossible. 

16 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

But looking on YouTube with people who have the same specs they don’t seem to have this problem.

Can't compare with youtube benchmarks, there's multitudes of factors that affect performance. 
I also just went and check them, I saw 3 benchmarks and they are all OCed 5600X.

Which reminded me, is your ReBar on? RAM on XMP/DOCP? All unnecessary apps/software are closed?

[O_Bsnacks]

1 minute ago, Dukesilver27- said:

FPS still at 100+ but GPU usage not going up? That's mathematically impossible. 

Can't compare with youtube benchmarks, there's multitudes of factors that affect performance. 
I also just went and check them, I saw 3 benchmarks and they are all OCed 5600X.

Which reminded me, is your ReBar on? RAM on XMP/DOCP? All unnecessary apps/software are closed?

No, the usage is in the 80% and 70% but the power consumption is still low. But for some reason when I enable v sync it locks 144fps. And yes resize bar is enabled as well as docp.

[Blue4130]

1 hour ago, O_Bsnacks said:

 I also see that my cpu is max at 100%.Please Help.

If your CPU is maxed out at 100% there is no reason for your gpu to go above what it is already doing. Your CPU can't keep up. Jump up to 4k resolution and see if it changes. That should prove what I and @Dukesilver27- are talking about.

[Dukesilver27-]

Can't just look at power consumption, different models of the same GPU could have different power consumption. What matters more is the GPU usage, as long the power usage go up along with gpu usage, that it is confirmed that your CPU can't keep up.

6 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

But for some reason when I enable v sync it locks 144fps. 

Also, V-sync is a feature to limit FPS to your monitor's max refresh rate.

[191x7]

1 hour ago, O_Bsnacks said:

So, I literally just got he reference rx 6900 xt today and when playing games such as battlefield v and the new warzone and overwatch 2, and the frames are in the 120s no matter high or low settings.

I see that the gpu is using less than 100w no matter what I do. I reintalled the drivers using DDU multiple time and it still happens. I also see that my cpu is max at 100%.Please Help. 

 

Pc Specs:

Ryzen 5 5600x 

Asus b550 -f gaming motherboard 

Asus thor 850+ platinum psu

2x8 3600mhz ddr4 ram 

 

What are your CPU temperatures under load?

Using the latest BIOS for the motherboard with AGESA 1207?

Using the latest Chipset drivers (from a month ago) and the latest GPU drivers (from a few days ago)?

 

[O_Bsnacks]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

What are your CPU temperatures under load?

Using the latest BIOS for the motherboard with AGESA 1207?

Using the latest Chipset drivers (from a month ago) and the latest GPU drivers (from a few days ago)?

 

Temps are fine in the 50c range. Chipset and gpu drivers I literally just updated to the latest ones.

[191x7]

10 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Temps are fine in the 50c range. Chipset and gpu drivers I literally just updated to the latest ones.

Can you download CPU-Z and send you the link you get when you validate?

Like mine https://valid.x86.fr/9a0ix9

 

Also, can you run 3DMark, the test named Fire Strike, so I could compare your performance to similar systems?

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, O_Bsnacks said:

monitor refresh rate= 144hz, resolution 1980 x 1080p, v-sync off. The thing is, it only when gaming when I run furmark it goes to 255w at the 1980x1080p benchmark

this is normal lol. not all games will put the same burden on the card. its actually a good thing it uses less power all things considered... 

 

1 hour ago, Blue4130 said:

If your CPU is maxed out at 100% there is no reason for your gpu to go above what it is already doing. Your CPU can't keep up. Jump up to 4k resolution and see if it changes. That should prove what I and @Dukesilver27- are talking about.

oh also this... check your cpu usage (all cores, not just total)

 

1 hour ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Also, V-sync is a feature to limit FPS to your monitor's max refresh rate.

actually, actually... its a feature to reduce screen tearing,  it just so happens to limit the framerate while doing that : p

 

 

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Temps are fine in the 50c range. Chipset and gpu drivers I literally just updated to the latest ones.

 

The latest, as in latest "Optional" driver version 22.11.1 dated Nov-15-2022?

That driver added support for Warzone 2.0 (I went and updated the drivers for my 6800 XT from the WHQL 22.5.1 while getting Warzone 2.0 installed).

 

Can you link the YouTube videos you used to compare?

[O_Bsnacks]

11 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Can you download CPU-Z and send you the link you get when you validate?

Like mine https://valid.x86.fr/9a0ix9

 

Also, can you run 3DMark, the test named Fire Strike, so I could compare your performance to similar systems?

 

10 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

this is normal lol. not all games will put the same burden on the card. its actually a good thing it uses less power all things considered... 

 

oh also this... check your cpu usage (all cores, not just total)

 

actually, actually... its a feature to reduce screen tearing,  it just so happens to limit the framerate while doing that : p

 

 

 

10 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

The latest, as in latest "Optional" driver version 22.11.1 dated Nov-15-2022?

That driver added support for Warzone 2.0 (I went and updated the drivers for my 6800 XT from the WHQL 22.5.1 while getting Warzone 2.0 installed).

 

Can you link the YouTube videos you used to compare?

So, in regard to the cpu usage being at 100% this only happens in the new overwatch game otherwise it in the 60-70% range. My gpu usage is in the 75-85% range when gaming at 1080p in battlefield V and is higher when playing the new warzone 2. (A little side not, when I play warzone 2 the performance is not as expected, I am getting like 120-140 fps never a solid 144 or higher. And even if I lower settings to all low the fps stays the same.) And as for the benchmarks you want me to run, 3d mark cost money which I will not spend to just benchmark but I will do the cpu-z benchmark later and send it in this forum. And lastly I am on the latest drivers, the one from november 15.

[Mark Kaine]

7 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

100% this only happens in the new overwatch game otherwise it in the 60-70% range. My gpu usage is in the 75-85% range

ok but u really need to check each core. 1 core at ~99% can be enough to bottleneck a game.

 

like it's not even an issue per say, technically, the only problem is you'll experience "lag" / frame drops, which nobody really likes.

 

ps: also if its "100%" , i suppose overall, in ow already,  that doesn't bode well for other games tbh, u should still check the core usage, just to be sure.

(in afterburner simply tick each core in the cpu category, its not on by default iirc)

[O_Bsnacks]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

ok but u really need to check each core. 1 core at ~99% can be enough to bottleneck a game.

 

like it's not even an issue per say, technically, the only problem is you'll experience "lag" / frame drops, which nobody really likes.

 

ps: also if its "100%" , i suppose overall, in ow already,  that doesn't bode well for other games tbh, u should still check the core usage, just to be sure.

(in afterburner simply tick each core in the cpu category, its not on by default iirc)

ok, I will add that to the list of things to test later, thank you. 

[191x7]

15 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

And as for the benchmarks you want me to run, 3d mark cost money which I will not spend to just benchmark but I will do the cpu-z benchmark later and send it in this forum. And lastly I am on the latest drivers, the one from november 15.

You are another one that claims 3DMark doesn't have a free version. And you are wrong. The demo/free version has all the benchmarks you need.

[O_Bsnacks]

23 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You are another one that claims 3DMark doesn't have a free version. And you are wrong. The demo/free version has all the benchmarks you need.

Where can I download it?

[O_Bsnacks]

37 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

ok but u really need to check each core. 1 core at ~99% can be enough to bottleneck a game.

 

like it's not even an issue per say, technically, the only problem is you'll experience "lag" / frame drops, which nobody really likes.

 

ps: also if its "100%" , i suppose overall, in ow already,  that doesn't bode well for other games tbh, u should still check the core usage, just to be sure.

(in afterburner simply tick each core in the cpu category, its not on by default iirc)

So, I turned on all the cpu usage in Msi afterburner and I saw that none of them were hitting 100% and this was when I was in Fortnite with everything on high, and the performance was terrible. I was getting like barley 100fps and the stuttering and fps dips were terrible.

[191x7]

15 minutes ago, O_Bsnacks said:

Where can I download it?

Steam, Official website, MajorGeeks and a few other places.

[O_Bsnacks]

Disregard

[-rascal-]

6 hours ago, O_Bsnacks said:

So, in regard to the cpu usage being at 100% this only happens in the new overwatch game otherwise it in the 60-70% range. My gpu usage is in the 75-85% range when gaming at 1080p in battlefield V and is higher when playing the new warzone 2. (A little side not, when I play warzone 2 the performance is not as expected, I am getting like 120-140 fps never a solid 144 or higher. And even if I lower settings to all low the fps stays the same.) And as for the benchmarks you want me to run, 3d mark cost money which I will not spend to just benchmark but I will do the cpu-z benchmark later and send it in this forum. And lastly I am on the latest drivers, the one from november 15.

 

I haven't played too much OverWatch2 lately, but can look into it.

A 5600X and 6900XT should not have issues with games like OW2 and even Warzone 2 at 1080p.

 

As for Warzone 2, enable the in-game telemetry options.

They are located in Settings > Interface > Telemetry (you can expand / collapse that menu).

Enable Graphics Card (GPU) Time, and Processor (CPU) Time.

The top left corner should give you times in milliseconds, ms.

Report those values there -- it will jump around so, give us the range.

 

I'm running max'd settings with FSR / DLSS / etc disabled at 1440p.

I'm getting 120 ~ 140 FPS, but never a solid 144+.

Telemetry is showing 7ms ~ 8ms for both my GPU and CPU.

Spoiler

I was helping a friend troubleshoot is low FPS issue in WZ2 last night

We even told him to set the render resolution to 75% (i.e. 1080p), and no change.

He was getting GPU=12ms, CPU=22ms

GPU being a GTX 1660 Super, and CPU a old i7-3770K, with a 1440p monitor.

His situation, the CPU is the bottleneck. 

 

[O_Bsnacks]

17 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

I haven't played too much OverWatch2 lately, but can look into it.

A 5600X and 6900XT should not have issues with games like OW2 and even Warzone 2 at 1080p.

 

As for Warzone 2, enable the in-game telemetry options.

They are located in Settings > Interface > Telemetry (you can expand / collapse that menu).

Enable Graphics Card (GPU) Time, and Processor (CPU) Time.

The top left corner should give you times in milliseconds, ms.

Report those values there -- it will jump around so, give us the range.

 

I'm running max'd settings with FSR / DLSS / etc disabled at 1440p.

I'm getting 120 ~ 140 FPS, but never a solid 144+.

Telemetry is showing 7ms ~ 8ms for both my GPU and CPU.

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I was helping a friend troubleshoot is low FPS issue in WZ2 last night

We even told him to set the render resolution to 75% (i.e. 1080p), and no change.

He was getting GPU=12ms, CPU=22ms

GPU being a GTX 1660 Super, and CPU a old i7-3770K, with a 1440p monitor.

His situation, the CPU is the bottleneck. 

 

Ok, before trying this I ran 3d mark time spy and firestrike. For time spy I got 16,890 and for firestrike 38,111. Is this good?