Friend suggested these parts for a ~10k pc and need help figuring out if there are better options

[wessss]

Budget (including currency): up to 10,000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Wide variety of games from terraria to the newest cod, hopefully one day vr If I can find the space for it.

Other details This is the list he has provided. He said he has to try and catch up on the parts as he hasn't looked at them in a couple years so I should ask here just to make sure.  I've seen more expensive parts like storage, The problem is I don't know if those are just cash grabs that don't actually make a difference. I don't mind spending more for parts that are going to make it objectively better but don't want cosmetic things like rbg or fancy looking cases. I'm aware more expensive doesn't automatically mean better but better does usually cost more.

1. MSI MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI LGA 1700 Intel Z790 SATA 6Gb/s DDR5 ATX Motherboard     Item#: N82E16813144563

* $649.99

Intel Core i9-13900KF - Core i9 13th Gen Raptor Lake 24-Core (8P+16E) P-core Base Frequency: 3.0 GHz E-core Base Frequency: 2.2 GHz LGA 1700 Desktop Processor - BX8071513900KF

* $789.99

CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5200 (PC5 41600) Intel XMP 3.0 Desktop Memory Model CMT64GX5M2B5200C40

* $445.99

ASUS ROG NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition Video Card (PCIe 4.0, 24GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, GPU Tweak) ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING

* $2,899.99

be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W, BN647, 80 Plus Titanium Efficiency, Power Supply, ATX, Fully Digital, Modular, virtually inaudible Silent Wings Fan
$684.62

Western Digital WD BLACK SN850 NVMe M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS200T1X0E 

* $379.99

WD Black WD8002FZWX 8TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drives – OEM
* $239.99

CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE LCD Display Liquid CPU Cooler

* $338.88



Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition E-ATX Full-Tower with Curved Tempered Glass Side Panel, Flexible Interior layout, RGB Lighting control, Type-C port and diverse liquid cooling layout

* $651.99


Will need Windows 11, extra fans for case etc. but can be picked up at local computer stores.

I have a mouse and keyboard and don't really see needing new ones but if you know of any that are actually a game changer that would be appreciated as well. 

I have a samsung g7 32inch 1440p 240mh 1ms, I might upgrade this later on but unsure for now.

The computer I have now is from 2015, the only part I'm sure it has is the 980 ti. I'm going to hand it down to my sister or my buddy if she ends up not gaming on it much.

 

Thank you in advance,

Wessss 

 

[bmx6454]

this is a crazy overpriced pc for 1440p gaming imo...

[NF-A12x25]

this is practically unreadable… please put everything into ca.pcpartpicker.com

 

also, the H100i is shit especially for its price, get a liquid freezer II

 

you’re spending WAY too much on slow DDR5, an obscene amount on an overpriced motherboard.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RfXnFg

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nD97gb (AIO with a bunch of RGB fans)

 

This destroys your build for the price. The list this guy picked out for you is the worst I have ever seen, price for dollar.

[PDifolco]

Another kiddo playing rich man

 

[Coolmaster]

3 minutes ago, NF-A12x25 said:

this is practically unreadable… please put everything into ca.pcpartpicker.com

 

also, the H100i is shit especially for its price, get a liquid freezer II

 

you’re spending WAY too much on slow DDR5, an obscene amount on an overpriced motherboard.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rdL4mr

 

This destroys your build for the price.

His prices are in Canadian Dollars, the build should still only be like $5000 dollars.

 

And is way over specced for a 1440p gaming PC.

[NF-A12x25]

Just now, Coolmaster said:

His prices are in Canadian Dollars, the build should still only be like $5000 dollars.

yeah I caught that, I switch between regular pcpartpicker and ca.pcpartpicker a lot so I was accidentally on the US site. (I’m a dual citizen and live close to the border so a lot of my builds for friends are in CAD)

[TetraSky]

$651 on a case!? Bruh... I'm not sure if you're the one who picked it or your friend, but you could 100% cut down that price by at least half by finding an alternative that is just as good if not better.

Also, the motherboard, I tried comparing it to a much cheaper board and couldn't find a single reason why you would go for that expensive board over any others like the Asus Prime Z790-P Wifi that cost like 379$

https://www.amazon.ca/Z790-P-Motherboard-Bluetooth-Type-C®-ThunderboltTM/dp/B0BG6LGNDB/

 

Same with that cooler. It's just the much cheaper iCue G100i RGB Pro XT, but with a tiny LCD on it. You won't get better performances out of it. At least get a 3 fan radiator for that price, come on.

 

Overall, lots of excess waste of money in this build. Your friend totally just went with whatever was expensive and thought "good enough".

[Nets]

25 minutes ago, wessss said:

Budget (including currency): up to 10,000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Wide variety of games from terraria to the newest cod, hopefully one day vr If I can find the space for it.

Other details This is the list he has provided. He said he has to try and catch up on the parts as he hasn't looked at them in a couple years so I should ask here just to make sure.  I've seen more expensive parts like storage, The problem is I don't know if those are just cash grabs that don't actually make a difference. I don't mind spending more for parts that are going to make it objectively better but don't want cosmetic things like rbg or fancy looking cases. I'm aware more expensive doesn't automatically mean better but better does usually cost more.

1. MSI MPG Z790 CARBON WIFI LGA 1700 Intel Z790 SATA 6Gb/s DDR5 ATX Motherboard     Item#: N82E16813144563

* $649.99

Intel Core i9-13900KF - Core i9 13th Gen Raptor Lake 24-Core (8P+16E) P-core Base Frequency: 3.0 GHz E-core Base Frequency: 2.2 GHz LGA 1700 Desktop Processor - BX8071513900KF

* $789.99

CORSAIR Dominator Platinum RGB 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 5200 (PC5 41600) Intel XMP 3.0 Desktop Memory Model CMT64GX5M2B5200C40

* $445.99

ASUS ROG NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition Video Card (PCIe 4.0, 24GB GDDR6X, HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 1.4a, GPU Tweak) ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING

* $2,899.99

be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W, BN647, 80 Plus Titanium Efficiency, Power Supply, ATX, Fully Digital, Modular, virtually inaudible Silent Wings Fan
$684.62

Western Digital WD BLACK SN850 NVMe M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS200T1X0E 

* $379.99

WD Black WD8002FZWX 8TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drives – OEM
* $239.99

CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE LCD Display Liquid CPU Cooler

* $338.88



Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition E-ATX Full-Tower with Curved Tempered Glass Side Panel, Flexible Interior layout, RGB Lighting control, Type-C port and diverse liquid cooling layout

* $651.99


Will need Windows 11, extra fans for case etc. but can be picked up at local computer stores.

I have a mouse and keyboard and don't really see needing new ones but if you know of any that are actually a game changer that would be appreciated as well. 

I have a samsung g7 32inch 1440p 240mh 1ms, I might upgrade this later on but unsure for now.

The computer I have now is from 2015, the only part I'm sure it has is the 980 ti. I'm going to hand it down to my sister or my buddy if she ends up not gaming on it much.

 

Thank you in advance,

Wessss 

 

At your price range i would seriously reconsider your cpu option, if my self would build a new system for me i would go for 7950x, 13900k its a bit better in some things but the am5 socket will have support until 2025 and until then will have cpus with much more performance than anything now.. so this means that in 2 years you just swap the cpu and your good. 

[Gamer Schnitzel]

I never understand people like OP.

Guy plays on a 980 Ti from 100 years ago and now wants to splash out $10k on a PC that will only stay relevant for 2 years?

What about... spend $2k every 2 years and that way you can literally always play on an up to date PC for the next 10 years?

A 4090 will only really play all games on max for maybe 2 years and that's if you stay on 1440. OP probably plays World of Warcraft and wants to post a pic of his computer on the guild discord. Good luck anyway.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Nets said:

At your price range i would seriously reconsider your cpu option, if my self would build a new system for me i would go for 7950x, 13900k its a bit better in some things but the am5 socket will have support until 2025 and until then will have cpus with much more performance than anything now.. so this means that in 2 years you just swap the cpu and your good. 

A 7950X makes zero sense for a gaming pc. No game needs that many cores/threads, and by the time it does the 7950X will be obsolete. A 13600K/13700K is pretty much all he needs. If he really has a $10K budget then he could save half (Or more) for a new system/upgrades when needed.

[Nets]

9 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

A 7950X makes zero sense for a gaming pc. No game needs that many cores/threads, and by the time it does the 7950X will be obsolete. A 13600K/13700K is pretty much all he needs. If he really has a $10K budget then he could save half (Or more) for a new system/upgrades when needed.

for that view makes 0 sense the whole build... 5800x3d will be pretty the same in 1440p, anyway over 2k is pointless on a gaming pc for 1440p 

 

[Tech Enthusiast]

That list looks terrible.

This is either a troll post, or your friend just looked up the most expensive part and told you to buy it, without even checking if they are actually good.

In that case, I do have some snake oil to sell btw. If you are interested, hit me up!

[wessss]

3 hours ago, NF-A12x25 said:

this is practically unreadable… please put everything into ca.pcpartpicker.com

 

also, the H100i is shit especially for its price, get a liquid freezer II

 

you’re spending WAY too much on slow DDR5, an obscene amount on an overpriced motherboard.

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RfXnFg

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nD97gb (AIO with a bunch of RGB fans)

 

This destroys your build for the price. The list this guy picked out for you is the worst I have ever seen, price for dollar.

Thank you, you're the only one who actually responded with something other than insults. It should be pretty clear I don't know much about building a pc and my buddy is out of date which is why he told me to come here to ensure it would be alright. I also put in the post I may upgrade the monitor if I feel with the new system it would be needed. I can't really gauge that without having the pc. LTT even says its better to go higher hertz over 4k. I know its a lot to ask but given the list I had was pretty much trash by the looks of it and the list you made was most likely based around it, do you mind making a parts list of parts that are for performance. I don't mind if they are more pricey if they do actually add performance. Thank you in advance.

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Another kiddo playing rich man

 

When I say that I get called out

 

[NF-A12x25]

3 hours ago, wessss said:

Thank you, you're the only one who actually responded with something other than insults. It should be pretty clear I don't know much about building a pc and my buddy is out of date which is why he told me to come here to ensure it would be alright. I also put in the post I may upgrade the monitor if I feel with the new system it would be needed. I can't really gauge that without having the pc. LTT even says its better to go higher hertz over 4k. I know its a lot to ask but given the list I had was pretty much trash by the looks of it and the list you made was most likely based around it, do you mind making a parts list of parts that are for performance. I don't mind if they are more pricey if they do actually add performance. Thank you in advance.

My list was just based on your list but I took pretty much everything out and redid it for performance, but I can make a better list with more of an upgrade path on Ryzen 7000. It’ll take me a little bit but i’ll get back to u in a few.

[NF-A12x25]

@wesssshttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGbZw

[wessss]

19 hours ago, NF-A12x25 said:

@wesssshttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGbZw

Awesome, Thank you so much. I appreciate the help.

[pesho77777]

On 11/7/2022 at 5:16 AM, NF-A12x25 said:

@wesssshttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGbZw

Is this liquid cooler a good option for newbies in PC building? Is there an easy 1-2-3 step guide for installing it?
I myself still have not build my first PC, so I'm wondering if it is something I should also do when I pick parts.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, pesho77777 said:

Is this liquid cooler a good option for newbies in PC building? Is there an easy 1-2-3 step guide for installing it?
I myself still have not build my first PC, so I'm wondering if it is something I should also do when I pick parts.

Tons of guides on Youtube and the manufacturer's usually have installation videos as well.

 

It isn't hard at all. 

[Coolmaster]

On 11/6/2022 at 10:16 PM, NF-A12x25 said:

@wesssshttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2sGbZw

I would get 6000MHz ram with that build. This kit isn't much more and will take full advantage of what that CPU can do https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/tkQcCJ/gskill-trident-z5-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl36-memory-f5-6000j3636f16ga2-tz5rk

[NF-A12x25]

1 hour ago, pesho77777 said:

Is this liquid cooler a good option for newbies in PC building? Is there an easy 1-2-3 step guide for installing it?
I myself still have not build my first PC, so I'm wondering if it is something I should also do when I pick parts.

it’s not very difficult, no, they’re quite easy to install. Linus did a good video called something like how to build a pc: the last guide you’ll ever need

[pesho77777]

On 11/8/2022 at 8:04 PM, NF-A12x25 said:

it’s not very difficult, no, they’re quite easy to install. Linus did a good video called something like how to build a pc: the last guide you’ll ever need

Thanks! I have that video saved! I guess I should finish it one of these days