i7 6700k + gtx 1070

[xXAXONXx]

hi, i need to know if exists bottleneck in i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming gigabyte + 32 gb ddr4 2666mhz ram dual channel, i remember a website it says only 5% or less damn

[BiotechBen]

1 hour ago, xXAXONXx said:

hi, i need to know if exists bottleneck in i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming gigabyte + 32 gb ddr4 2666mhz ram dual channel, i remember a website it says only 5% or less damn

Ignore the calculator shit, it's pulling numbers out of its ass. A 6700K and a 1070 is a balanced system. You are all good to go, enjoy gaming

[Mister Woof]

Yeah there'll be a bottleneck somewhere. Probably the memory in a lot of CPU games, and the GPU in most others.

[SkilledRebuilds]

There are some cases where a game can use a multicore system pretty well (Horizon Zero Dawn example) and your all core CPU load will be higher in these games than others, possibly high enough load to bottleneck the GTX1070 due to 75-100% CPU usages in multicore aware titles.
But for the MOST part, youll be GPU bound at Medium-High settings on Heavier non-Esports titles.

Capping FPS under your averageFPS, can help with CPU spiking in demanding (CPU) scenes.

 

I moved from my 4790K 4.8Ghz with 4x8GB 2400CL10 DDR3 and GTX1070 to a 2080Ti (messing with 1440p/4K) and still CPU bound in some lighter games (let alone heavier CPU titles) due to the HIGH framerates the GPU wants to deliver...but the CPU cannot match the GPU.

[191x7]

2 hours ago, xXAXONXx said:

hi, i need to know if exists bottleneck in i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming gigabyte + 32 gb ddr4 2666mhz ram dual channel, i remember a website it says only 5% or less damn

There are games for which that i3 is weak and it might not feed the GPU quite enough on 1080p. Also, that i3 might cause some stutters in some games that use more than 4 real cores.

[xXAXONXx]

On 9/14/2022 at 12:58 AM, BiotechBen said:

Ignore the calculator shit, it's pulling numbers out of its ass. A 6700K and a 1070 is a balanced system. You are all good to go, enjoy gaming

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Fn0UN/1920x1080/1/general-tasks/ this is the website

[BiotechBen]

25 minutes ago, xXAXONXx said:

https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Fn0UN/1920x1080/1/general-tasks/ this is the website

Yeah, ignore the "bottleneck calculator" shit. You will always have a "bottleneck" somewhere, what matters is not having a wildly unbalanced system. 

@1080p, the 6700k will be holding back the 1070 a bit, which is why I would suggest 1440p. Even if it's a 1080p monitor, rendering at 1440p and letting it downscale will provide a more detailed image.

[xXAXONXx]

On 9/19/2022 at 11:11 PM, BiotechBen said:

Yeah, ignore the "bottleneck calculator" shit. You will always have a "bottleneck" somewhere, what matters is not having a wildly unbalanced system. 

@1080p, the 6700k will be holding back the 1070 a bit, which is why I would suggest 1440p. Even if it's a 1080p monitor, rendering at 1440p and letting it downscale will provide a more detailed image.

i want for 1080p gaming, so no bottleneck?

[Pickles von Brine]

At 1080p you become CPU bound and mainly at frequency. However, even so you are fine. I rocked a 3770k @ 4.5 and a 1070 until Ryzen 3000 came out. I did get a nice bump in performance but it was like 10-15 FPS? Don't worry so much about bottlenecks. Just build a PC with what you can and enjoy it. Take this from someone who has been building and repairing computers for 17 years. 

I don't even worry about bottlenecks when I build my systems. I grab a good processor, slap in a good video card, good ram and board. Grab a reliable power supply and an SSD and call it a day. 

[xXAXONXx]

22 hours ago, Pickles von Brine said:

At 1080p you become CPU bound and mainly at frequency. However, even so you are fine. I rocked a 3770k @ 4.5 and a 1070 until Ryzen 3000 came out. I did get a nice bump in performance but it was like 10-15 FPS? Don't worry so much about bottlenecks. Just build a PC with what you can and enjoy it. Take this from someone who has been building and repairing computers for 17 years. 

I don't even worry about bottlenecks when I build my systems. I grab a good processor, slap in a good video card, good ram and board. Grab a reliable power supply and an SSD and call it a day. 

mmm so i dont need to worry about bottleneck?, i7 6700k gtx 1070 g1 gaming  msi z170a g-45 gaming  kingston hyper x fury black 32 gb ddr4 2666 mhz dual channel (2x16) ssd 2 hdd evga supernova G2 850 watts 80 plus gold case gambyte antares

[Pickles von Brine]

You are good man. Just enjoy your games. System is a little old by modern hardware standards but who cares?

Answer these 3 questions:
Does my system work?
Does it play the games I like?
Does it play the games I like well?
If you answer yes then be happy with what you got. 

You can dive down the rabbit hole of this and that (trust me I did for a long time) but you get to a point of just being satisfied with what you have. The only reason I have the computer I have now is because I had a 7 year old processor at the time that had a dying motherboard, I wanted a GPU upgrade and I had the money. I bought the CPU, motherboard and RAM first. Then when the 3000 series came out I managed to snag one at a good price. Sold my 1070 to a good friend of mine for cheap and he has been happy like a hog in slop. 

My old system played all the games I had at 1080p just fine. Now I have a 4k monitor and a 3070. Am I happy? Yes I am. 

Am I eying the 4000 series? You bet I am. Will I upgrade? Likely not. If the opportunity presents itself? I might.

The key is keeping perspective and keeping your head out of the weeds. 

 

Also, as the second poster said. Ignore the calculator stuff. You got a good balanced system.

[xXAXONXx]

On 9/14/2022 at 12:58 AM, BiotechBen said:

Ignore the calculator shit, it's pulling numbers out of its ass. A 6700K and a 1070 is a balanced system. You are all good to go, enjoy gaming

dude are you sure my i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming + etc et etc is a balanced system?, cause this other website says bottleneck 33% 1080p omfg!

 

https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/intel-core-i7-6700k-vs-intel-core-i9-12900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=32-vs-32&ramspeed=2666-vs-3800

[Mick Naughty]

Seems like an average build and is balanced. For what it is, the only issue will be the age and performance it brings or lack there of.

[xXAXONXx]

4 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Seems like an average build and is balanced. For what it is, the only issue will be the age and performance it brings or lack there of.

yes i know its imposible to run rdr2 in 1080p everyting at max even with rtx 2080ti

[Mick Naughty]

8 minutes ago, xXAXONXx said:

yes i know its imposible to run rdr2 in 1080p everyting at max even with rtx 2080ti

I guess, its thats the goal, then the current hardware wont be conflicting.

[BiotechBen]

2 hours ago, xXAXONXx said:

dude are you sure my i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming + etc et etc is a balanced system?, cause this other website says bottleneck 33% 1080p omfg!

 

https://www.cpuagent.com/build-compare/intel-core-i7-6700k-vs-intel-core-i9-12900k/summary/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070?res=1-vs-1&quality=ultra-vs-ultra&ram=32-vs-32&ramspeed=2666-vs-3800

Where does it say "33% bottleneck" I couldn't find it.

Also, do you know what the "bottleneck" is in?

Did you also happen to notice that the comparison you have is of wildly different chips. Compared to a 12900K a 6700K is gonna look like it's been castrated.

-totally different architecture

-vastly different IPC

-vastly different RAM

-vastly different TDP

-different place in product stack

-if you are comparing to 12900K then price obviously has no important part in the "comparison"

 

If you are really concerned about not leaving performance on the table with your 1070, and price is not important, get a 12700K or 5800X3D.

 

[xXAXONXx]

On 9/28/2022 at 9:21 PM, BiotechBen said:

Where does it say "33% bottleneck" I couldn't find it.

Also, do you know what the "bottleneck" is in?

Did you also happen to notice that the comparison you have is of wildly different chips. Compared to a 12900K a 6700K is gonna look like it's been castrated.

-totally different architecture

-vastly different IPC

-vastly different RAM

-vastly different TDP

-different place in product stack

-if you are comparing to 12900K then price obviously has no important part in the "comparison"

 

If you are really concerned about not leaving performance on the table with your 1070, and price is not important, get a 12700K or 5800X3D.

 

Max 1080p Bottleneck.

 

PD: yes that website is sh1t right?, and no i dont have money for buy another cpu or gpu etc

[Mister Woof]

52 minutes ago, xXAXONXx said:

Max 1080p Bottleneck.

 

PD: yes that website is sh1t right?, and no i dont have money for buy another cpu or gpu etc

They're all kind of dumb. You'll always have a bottleneck somewhere, it's a balancing act to maximize efficiency. Sometimes it's CPU, memory, GPU, or even storage or network.

 

Those two parts are pretty much from the same era, and they'll be what one would have used at the time they launched. 

 

Depending on the game, and even what part of the game, some are more cpu leaning and others are more gpu leaning. Those bottleneck calculators are dumb because there's too many variables for them to mean much.

 

For example my 10900k and 3080. In most new games at 1440p, the GPU is the bottleneck. But shift resolution down, or lower settings, the processor becomes the bottleneck. 

 

And go to different areas in a game (MMOs), it will be on network. 

 

There's always times when you have some performance issues somewhere. It's about finding the right balance.

 

It's easy to get sucked into the upgrade hype. I'm suppressing it myself.

 

[xXAXONXx]

46 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

They're all kind of dumb. You'll always have a bottleneck somewhere, it's a balancing act to maximize efficiency. Sometimes it's CPU, memory, GPU, or even storage or network.

 

Those two parts are pretty much from the same era, and they'll be what one would have used at the time they launched. 

 

Depending on the game, and even what part of the game, some are more cpu leaning and others are more gpu leaning. Those bottleneck calculators are dumb because there's too many variables for them to mean much.

 

For example my 10900k and 3080. In most new games at 1440p, the GPU is the bottleneck. But shift resolution down, or lower settings, the processor becomes the bottleneck. 

 

And go to different areas in a game (MMOs), it will be on network. 

 

There's always times when you have some performance issues somewhere. It's about finding the right balance.

 

It's easy to get sucked into the upgrade hype. I'm suppressing it myself.

 

so i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming is balanced system for 1080p ultra gaming? nice?

[Mister Woof]

17 minutes ago, xXAXONXx said:

so i7 6700k + gtx 1070 g1 gaming is balanced system for 1080p ultra gaming? nice?

It should be pretty good. Memory's a little slow, but if you look at current i3-10100 (same 4c/8t Skylake cores mostly) benchmark data, it should be pretty similar. Yours might actually be a little quicker ve cause it boosts higher and has more cache.

 

Here's a relative performance chart for the i3-10100/2666mhz RAM with a 2080ti, a significantly more powerful GPU, and it mostly keeps up with the faster CPUs at 1080p.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-10100/15.html

 

In fa t, the 2080ti is so much faster than the 1070 that I'd more likely think 1440p data more realistically represents what kind of GPU limitations you'd have with a 1070.

 

 

Which is almost no different when considering CPU upgrades.

[xXAXONXx]

17 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

It should be pretty good. Memory's a little slow, but if you look at current i3-10100 (same 4c/8t Skylake cores mostly) benchmark data, it should be pretty similar. Yours might actually be a little quicker ve cause it boosts higher and has more cache.

 

Here's a relative performance chart for the i3-10100/2666mhz RAM with a 2080ti, a significantly more powerful GPU, and it mostly keeps up with the faster CPUs at 1080p.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-10100/15.html

 

In fa t, the 2080ti is so much faster than the 1070 that I'd more likely think 1440p data more realistically represents what kind of GPU limitations you'd have with a 1070.

 

 

Which is almost no different when considering CPU upgrades.

thanks, now i am sure that i7 6700k 4 ghz + gtx 1070 g1 gaming 8 gb + 32 gb (2x16) ddr4 kingston hyper x fury black 2666mhz bus speed + ssd + 2 hdds + case + 80 gold power supply is a balanced system and have bit bottleneck for gaming in 1080p in ultra max settings, thanks i wont doutb again