GPU prices are still insane

[Charles_Masterman]

It seems as if the prices for new (lower tier) GPUs have not gone down one bit and I'm afraid I'll buy a heavily crypto-mined GPU on eBay, does someone know a trusty GPU seller on eBay?

[da na]

"Have not gone down one bit" I'm not quite sure what you mean...

Personally, I'd call that "one bit". These are for RTX A-series cards but similar trends have been going on for gaming cards, at least here in the US. Your area could be different though

[Middcore]

4 minutes ago, Charles_Masterman said:

It seems as if the prices for new GPUs have not gone down one bit

 

Well, they have. 

[BiotechBen]

When they start at astronomical prices, an then go down 25%, it may be that they go back to MSRP, but that's the way the world is. 

[Charles_Masterman]

1 minute ago, Mel0n. said:

"Have not gone down one bit" I'm not quite sure what you mean...

Personally, I'd call that "one bit". These are for RTX A-series cards but similar trends have been going on for gaming cards, at least here in the US. Your area could be different though

i meant the prices of lower tier GPUs such as gtx 1660, they are still 400-700 euros 

[Fl0yd-]

they definitely did here in dubai, an rtx 3060 costs 420$ and a 3090 ti costs 2000$, close to msrp.

 

geekay store next to our house

 

last week sold for 430

 

[Middcore]

2 minutes ago, Charles_Masterman said:

i meant the prices of lower tier GPUs such as gtx 1660, they are still 400-700 euros 

 

Why would you buy a 1660 when cards like the RTX 3060 and RX 6600 are available?

 

The 1660 non-ti non-super wasn't even worth buying new. 

[Charles_Masterman]

1 minute ago, Fl0yd- said:

they definitely did here in dubai, an rtx 3060 costs 320$ and a 3090 ti costs 2000$, close to msrp.

here gtx 1660 are still 400-700 euros

[Charles_Masterman]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

Why would you buy one of those when cards like the RTX 3060 and RX are available?

mainly because prices for those (brand new ones) are still expensive and like i said i'm afraid that i might buy a crypto mined GPU and it would be very helpful if you know any trusty ebay sellers

 

[ToboRobot]

1 minute ago, Charles_Masterman said:

here gtx 1660 are still 400-700 euros

How much are 3060s?

[Fl0yd-]

3 minutes ago, Charles_Masterman said:

here gtx 1660 are still 400-700 euros

updated with links, could be useful for u.

[Charles_Masterman]

2 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

How much are 3060s?

from 750-1600 euros

[Fl0yd-]

1 minute ago, Fl0yd- said:

updated with links, could be useful for u.

also here's proof for 3090 ti MSRP I took this pic 2 days ago

 

[PDifolco]

2020 MSRP made no sense because they were established before the coronacircus times..

Then they went up to the roof because the market demand increased a lot and at the same time miners took half (at least) of the shipments...

Now think that in 2 years there's been at least 15% inflation, so current prices seem rather fair to me. Think that in 2018 a 2080Ti was $1200, that's now the price of a 3090 (admittedly only some on sales but still)

Also in 2019 I got a 2060S for 430EUR, and now a 6650XT (+20%) costs the same, and I didn't even include inflation...

 

Edit : was talking about US/Europe prices, idk what they are in the Emirates or South Africa...

[ToboRobot]

1 minute ago, Charles_Masterman said:

from 750-1600 euros

Where are you shopping?  

I looked at caseking.de a german retailer, and they have them start under 450 euro.

[Charles_Masterman]

My main question was if anyone knows/has a good experience with an eBay GPU seller.

[Charles_Masterman]

i didn't know that site existed, thanks for informing me these prices definitely look better

[Middcore]

17 minutes ago, Charles_Masterman said:

from 750-1600 euros

 

I just looked at 3060's in 3-4 different random Euro zone countries on PCPartPicker and they were all in the 450-600 range.

 

It would help if you actually told us WHICH country you're in and what retailers you have access to. 

 

Cards that have been mined on are usually fine, BTW. 

 

 

[BiotechBen]

Just saw this

 

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-drops-to-1299-rtx-3080-ti-899-rtx-3080-12gb-739-on-newegg/

[Charles_Masterman]

3 hours ago, Middcore said:

 

I just looked at 3060's in 3-4 different random Euro zone countries on PCPartPicker and they were all in the 450-600 range.

 

It would help if you actually told us WHICH country you're in and what retailers you have access to. 

 

Cards that have been mined on are usually fine, BTW. 

 

 

i'm from Slovenia and the only 2 retailers i have access to are "Big Bang" and "Mimovrste", eBay is also an option 

[Sprayingmango]

I just got my 3090Ti for $700 USD off at my local Microcenter. All GPUs are massively discounted. $500 off for 3080Tis, $300 to $500 off 3090s...the prices are awesome right now. 

[Charles_Masterman]

10 hours ago, Sprayingmango said:

I just got my 3090Ti for $700 USD off at my local Microcenter. All GPUs are massively discounted. $500 off for 3080Tis, $300 to $500 off 3090s...the prices are awesome right now. 

here in Slovenia prices have gone down from really overpriced to less really overpriced(these are the only ones avalible)

[jaslion]

Local used it where its at atm. Currently have gotten 27 3080s for qn average of 557 a piece and 38 3090s for an average of 682 a piece from miner and non miners alike.

[ewitte]

On 7/24/2022 at 9:16 AM, Fl0yd- said:

they definitely did here in dubai, an rtx 3060 costs 420$ and a 3090 ti costs 2000$, close to msrp.

 

geekay store next to our house

 

last week sold for 430

 

$2000 isn't a good deal on that card.  Everything over about a 3080ti was reduced here they officially dropped the 3090ti to $1599 but I've seen some AIB models for $1499.

[Dogzilla07]

For new cards the lower down you go with cards, the more overpriced they've stayed (and Nvidia more than AMD). 3050 is still horribly over MSRP, and 3060 still too much over it's realistic price. For AMD it's better, the 6600 has been jumping up and down for good prices, 6600 XT as well.

 

The higher up you go the more price drops happened (which is in line for marketing/advertising, general sales behaviour of AMD/Nvidia before a new launch more than anything).

 

1. New gen is coming high-end first so more important to move that product = Nvidia/AMD eat the loss for the AIBs/distributors and give rebates/credit/deals/other incentives

2. In turn distributors eat the loss for end sellers (at least in big markets)

3. Promos with games 

4. Price new cards higher than calculated to be productive (reverse psychology + fomo = the real reason/calculated use of Nvidia founders edition prices)[the extra money from Nvidia selling directly is icing on the cake, no grand conspiracy, just 1970-1980s next-gen economics theories sprinkled with Sun Tzu's teachings]

5. Old product flies off the shelves to make room for new (worked like a charm the last few cycles I paid more attention)

 

Few problems that arise is:

 

1. not a big market, distributors/AIBs didn't get helped by AMD/Intel (either in the moment, or for the future)

2. distributors that didn't trickle down help to individual shops for reasons other than a small market catch 22

3. individual shops that didn't trickle down to consumers due to unknown unknowns (to me currently).

4. distributors and individual shops known unknowns that are too speculative and individual country/market/company policy related for me to bother writing out (too little statistical chance/that's straying too far from Occam's razor)

5. and whatever unknown knowns I might have missed to apply/forgotten about from past knowledge xD

 

Things that feel like problems/conspiracy but are just supply + demand + manufacturing constraints due to economics + physics (and basically just happen organically irrelevant of human intention):

 

1. Delays for top cards

2. Mid + Low end uncertain release delay

 

P.S. Yes I know the concepts and applications (in game theory and other stuff) predate Rumsfeld and have more accurate scientific terminology, but you can't deny Rumsfeld's words are just too cool to not use xD

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns