Palm grip is just fingertrip grip for people who turn the DPI & sensitivity way down

[IPD]

Change my mind.

[Zob]

what? 

[blinkzz]

this really doesn't make sense, unless palm users play with very minimal movement on screen. 
Palm users are very restricted with the use of just their wrist. if anything its quite the opposite. 

I have yet to see some nut job use low edpi with palm grip.

[Dedayog]

38 minutes ago, IPD said:

Change my mind.

Why should we?

[IPD]

37 minutes ago, blinkzz said:

this really doesn't make sense, unless palm users play with very minimal movement on screen. 
Palm users are very restricted with the use of just their wrist. if anything its quite the opposite. 

I have yet to see some nut job use low edpi with palm grip.

I can make finer movements with my wrist flat on the table, than I can by moving my forearm?

[Rauten]

I do palm grip.

I buy exclusively 12k+ DPI mice, prefer 16k DPIs

I never run them under 12k DPI, again prefer 16k.

 

 

[blinkzz]

34 minutes ago, IPD said:

I can make finer movements with my wrist flat on the table, than I can by moving my forearm?

in an fps setting sure you can make small finer movements but what happens when you need big swings. 

[WkdPaul]

- your thread was moved to the Peripherals section, please stop thread dumping in the General section -

[IPD]

1 hour ago, WkdPaul said:

- your thread was moved to the Peripherals section, please stop thread dumping in the General section -

I wasn't aware I was "thread dumping".  To my memory, this is the first thread I've created that has been moved.  And the reason I didn't immediately put it under peripherals was because I wasn't intending to discuss specific devices.

[IPD]

2 hours ago, Rauten said:

I do palm grip.

I buy exclusively 12k+ DPI mice, prefer 16k DPIs

I never run them under 12k DPI, again prefer 16k.

 

 

So where do you place the sensitivity for your mice (windows or in game)?  I'm curious, because I used to run with 2000 DPI on virtually stock sensitivity settings everywhere.  I've gone to 8000 dpi and had to turn the sensitivity down some, and I still feel like it's twitchy.

 

I use palm grip at work because of the mice/settings the office PC's have by default.  But at home, with the dpi cranked, I'm finding that I need fingertip grip.

[IPD]

2 hours ago, blinkzz said:

in an fps setting sure you can make small finer movements but what happens when you need big swings. 

If a drastic move is required, i would end up keeping fingertip grip and moving my forearm slightly.  I feel I have more control over the movement input if the pivot point I am using is closer to the sensor; which is why most of the time, my palm is flat on the desk, and my fingers are doing the moving by extending/contracting.

 

Every time I've tried palm-grip, i feel that unless the height of the mouse is fairly low, the only things controlling movement are the friction between the mouse feet and the surface it sits on. 

 

Additionally, by placing the ends of my index and middle finger metacarpals on the back of the mouse (instead of centering or putting the back of these metacarpals on the back of the mouse) the I find that this allows the padding of my proximal phalanges to sit on the top of the mouse without triggering button presses; meaning that my fingers tire less over time.

[ParrotPal]

13 hours ago, IPD said:

Change my mind.

ok lmao no

[Rauten]

13 hours ago, IPD said:

So where do you place the sensitivity for your mice (windows or in game)?  I'm curious, because I used to run with 2000 DPI on virtually stock sensitivity settings everywhere.  I've gone to 8000 dpi and had to turn the sensitivity down some, and I still feel like it's twitchy.

 

I use palm grip at work because of the mice/settings the office PC's have by default.  But at home, with the dpi cranked, I'm finding that I need fingertip grip.

Windows sensitivity is at around 40% for 12K DPI, and around 20% for 16K. Enhance pointer precision can do jump off a cliff.

In-game sensitivity, depends on the game as each game/engine behaves differently but in general, between 0.1 and 0.9.

 

To be honest, I'm a weird case. Most people that try to use my mice just can't control it, it's way too twitchy for them and completely lose control. I move the mouse with super tiny, subtle hand/wrist motions and I rarely need to move the arm.

[IPD]

4 hours ago, Rauten said:

Windows sensitivity is at around 40% for 12K DPI, and around 20% for 16K. Enhance pointer precision can do jump off a cliff.

In-game sensitivity, depends on the game as each game/engine behaves differently but in general, between 0.1 and 0.9.

 

To be honest, I'm a weird case. Most people that try to use my mice just can't control it, it's way too twitchy for them and completely lose control. I move the mouse with super tiny, subtle hand/wrist motions and I rarely need to move the arm.

That's kind of what I was thinking though.  Hand sizes vary, and your hand position may change based on that and the size of the mouse.  Yet the motion you use will become finer (micro) and less macro as the input becomes more and more sensitive (either dpi or sensitivity).

 

There are probably some who consider their grip "palm style" yet are using the same fine-motor movements that I consider fingertip.