6th gen Intel vs 10th

[magicammo]

So I got the itch to upgrade and kinda did I upgraded to the 5800x and hated it too many issues so I reverted back to my 6th gen i7 6700k and returned the AMD stuff not dealing with it. I just picked up an 11th gen i7 and a mobo and found that the 10th gen equivalent is on sale for $279 that's not bad at all!  Now I'm conflicted, should I just say screw it and continue with 11th gen, return the 11th gen and save some cash going with 10th cause there's also a deal on a Mobo, or should I just say fuck it all and keep waiting . what do you all think?  I've been all over the place with this the past 2 weeks  and can't freaking decide to save my life

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

At this point, I think being decisive would save you more time and money than picking exactly the right platform.

 

Stick with what you have already purchased, the 11th gen i7.

[Jurrunio]

11th gen advantage over 10th is pretty noticeable, I recommend sticking to 11.

[jaslion]

Just stick with what you have and solve issues as they come.

 

There is never a perfect platform

[magicammo]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Just stick with what you have and solve issues as they come.

 

There is never a perfect platform

The 6700k? 

[jaslion]

Just now, magicammo said:

The 6700k? 

No the 11th gen you bought?

 

You didn't buy it yet? If not just wait a couple weeks to see if 12th gen gives a price drop on existing stuff or if it's a decent deal.

[adarw]

3 minutes ago, magicammo said:

The 6700k? 

its not perfect.

[-rascal-]

I built a Ryzen 5800X system back in July of this year.
It's a multi-purpose system -- Work-From-Home (RDP, VMs, coding) and Gaming.

Paired with a Gigabyte B550 motherboard, running the latest motherboard BIOS, I have yet to run into any issues.
PBO2 enabled, XMP enabled.

That said, it will vary from one person to another.

 

My opinion, just stick with the Intel 11th Gen.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

10 minutes ago, magicammo said:

The 6700k? 

Just overclock it, would be stupid not to overclock or atleast undervolt it

[magicammo]

12 minutes ago, jaslion said:

No the 11th gen you bought?

 

You didn't buy it yet? If not just wait a couple weeks to see if 12th gen gives a price drop on existing stuff or if it's a decent deal.

I did buy it from best buy it wouldn't be hard to return lol

[IPD]

There's no such thing as a "perfect upgrade" when it comes to tech.  You do research.  You pull the trigger on "good enough", knowing that it will be eclipsed by better in the future.  You have to s**t or get off the pot.

 

p.s.

what "issues" do you speak of.  I mean, if swapping from intel to AMD was insurmountable for you--perhaps you should stick to Apple.

[magicammo]

4 minutes ago, IPD said:

There's no such thing as a "perfect upgrade" when it comes to tech.  You do research.  You pull the trigger on "good enough", knowing that it will be eclipsed by better in the future.  You have to s**t or get off the pot.

 

p.s.

what "issues" do you speak of.  I mean, if swapping from intel to AMD was insurmountable for you--perhaps you should stick to Apple.

Yea I know there's no perfect upgrade but I feel I chose a bad time to upgrade 12th gen is around the corner 10th gen is on sale as well as some 11th gen. 11thgen has power and heat issues from what I researched. 10th doesn't support pci4 but doesn't suffer from terrible power draw or thermals regardless I would be getting a pretty good upgrade. As far as the AMD issues go I kept getting cache hierarchy errors on multiple cores while running stock and when I tried undervolting it a bit. Random system reboots during light loads or just idle

[freeagent]

I would just buy a good cooler and clock the shit out of your 6700K. It should be ok still, I know my 3770K is still ok. At least you know your old system is decent. Cant imagine why you would buy 11th gen with ADL just around the corner. Crazy.

7 minutes ago, IPD said:

There's no such thing as a "perfect upgrade" when it comes to tech. 

3770K with Z77 OC Formula was pretty solid for me, but the move to Asus B550 and 5900X is pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty damn close..

 

Also no problems either, has been just as stable if not more than my Intel systems.

[magicammo]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

I would just buy a good cooler and clock the shit out of your 6700K. It should be ok still, I know my 3770K is still ok. At least you know your old system is decent. Cant imagine why you would buy 11th gen with ADL just around the corner. Crazy.

3770K with Z77 OC Formula was pretty solid for me, but the move to Asus B550 and 5900X is pretty good. Not perfect, but pretty damn close..

 

Also no problems either, has been just as stable if not more than my Intel systems.

Well funny thing is I've been out of the loop in terms of hardware and when I started researching the issues I was having with my 5800x and was fed up with it I looked at Intel and said screw it 11th gen here I come literally without any thought or research just due to feeling utterly defeated by amd I bought the CPU and board.

 

Not too long after I guess google was collecting all my info from recent searches and I got an alert for an article for 12gen and I was like really? Which is why I'm here  Hahaha. Also 12th gen looks like it's gonna be expensive 

[freeagent]

Some guys will say it doesn't matter but.. I checked the QVL on my board, and ram and made sure they both said they were compatible. I am running 2 mixed pairs and have seen nothing but sweet stability and good clocks. I hope you find a good system! No one deserves a frustration box.

 

I ran an X5690 from new until 2017, from 2017 to 2020 I ran a 3770K.. But I bought this board and some Royals with a 3600XT, then a 5600X, and finally a 5900X which I will probably be selling soon to make room for Zen3+ lol.. ffs 

[magicammo]

16 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Some guys will say it doesn't matter but.. I checked the QVL on my board, and ram and made sure they both said they were compatible. I am running 2 mixed pairs and have seen nothing but sweet stability and good clocks. I hope you find a good system! No one deserves a frustration box.

 

I ran an X5690 from new until 2017, from 2017 to 2020 I ran a 3770K.. But I bought this board and some Royals with a 3600XT, then a 5600X, and finally a 5900X which I will probably be selling soon to make room for Zen3+ lol.. ffs 

Jusus haha that's my fear let's say I go with 10th gen just to save money and say eh screw waiting for 12 then 12th gen gets here and is like GTFO I'm power efficient and destroy competition even with my lower tier offerings!

[Mister Woof]

Return everything and keep using your 6700k.

 

Unless you're playing 1080p low with a stupidly high refresh monitor and a powerful graphics card, or use software specifically hard on the CPU, it's not that bad.

 

 

[magicammo]

13 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Return everything and keep using your 6700k.

 

Unless you're playing 1080p low with a stupidly high refresh monitor and a powerful graphics card, or use software specifically hard on the CPU, it's not that bad.

 

 

I play 1080p with a high refresh display but not on low settings and I have a 1080ti. 

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, magicammo said:

I play 1080p with a high refresh display but not on low settings and I have a 1080ti. 

You'll notice an improvement in performance, but to be honest it's not a good time to buy for Intel. If you are cool with AMD, they have good options. But 10th gen is outdated and 11th gen sucks. I would rather use 10th gen than 11th right now, however. The 10900k still beats 11th gen at pretty much everything meaningful.

[magicammo]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

You'll notice an improvement in performance, but to be honest it's not a good time to buy for Intel. If you are cool with AMD, they have good options. But 10th gen is outdated and 11th gen sucks. I would rather use 10th gen than 11th right now, however. The 10900k still beats 11th gen at pretty much everything meaningful.

Yea I noticed the CPU was needing some help when playing warzone,Apex, hitman. I still get good frames but I know more can be pushed. Yea I've seen the controversy with Intel and I'm not going back to AMD after the headache I went through with the 5800x lol

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, magicammo said:

Yea I noticed the CPU was needing some help when playing warzone,Apex, hitman. I still get good frames but I know more can be pushed. Yea I've seen the controversy with Intel and I'm not going back to AMD after the headache I went through with the 5800x lol

I would hold out for 12th gen unless you have some tournament coming up. 10th and 11th gen are going to look like dinosaurs next to it, because not only is it a new architecture, but the design philosophy is totally different.

[freeagent]

That’s why I said to keep using your 6700K. Intel isn’t worth buying right now, and you couldn’t get an AMD to work for you, so just keep using what you have.. buy the best cooler you can and run the shit out of it. You aren’t going to hurt it.

[magicammo]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

I would hold out for 12th gen unless you have some tournament coming up. 10th and 11th gen are going to look like dinosaurs next to it, because not only is it a new architecture, but the design philosophy is totally different.

I saw a video with someone about it being a hybrid CPU with e cores and p cores or something like that

[Mister Woof]

Just now, magicammo said:

I saw a video with someone about it being a hybrid CPU with e cores and p cores or something like that

Most of the higher end SKUs come with P-cores and E-cores. In theory, it could allow the OS to designate some overhead to those e-cores and allow you to free up P-cores for heavy lifting, like games. Take for example, a 12600k with 6 P-cores and hyperthreading is basically like a Ryzen 5 5600x, then you add in the 4 E-cores to help do some of the other background tasks. It's a tall order though to hope the OS does it well, as well as the software (saw some weirdness with Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks possibly because of core confusion) but if it works, it could be really good.

[magicammo]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

That’s why I said to keep using your 6700K. Intel isn’t worth buying right now, and you couldn’t get an AMD to work for you, so just keep using what you have.. buy the best cooler you can and run the shit out of it. You aren’t going to hurt it.

I have it on water and have treated it like a queen for 6 years ol girl has ever seen anything over 60c